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Kpt. Lehmann 10-31-07 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by clayton

Damn, outfoxed by a wolf! :nope:

No worries. At least it wasn't a parakeet right?

Got your PM. First round is on me.:up: Gotta have red meat cooked with fire too though.

@Reaves: Ja, I noticed the donation image change too. Scary that. I hope lots of people notice.

THE_MASK 10-31-07 10:09 PM

I wonder how many new ships there will be in the addon ?

Greentimbers 10-31-07 11:35 PM

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@Reaves: Ja, I noticed the donation image change too. Scary that. I hope lots of people notice.
Thanks for pointing this out, just sent them a little something:up:

Reaves 11-01-07 01:07 AM

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@Reaves: Ja, I noticed the donation image change too. Scary that. I hope lots of people notice.
Thanks for pointing this out, just sent them a little something:up:


Quoted so Neal doesn't miss it! :up:

DeepSix 11-01-07 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
...I think the most valuable aspect of this is, Ubisoft is keeping the Romanian devs at work on a submarime sim.

Same here!

@Chock - damn funny stuff. With "Kalinka" in the background, too - I've got the exact same version.... Thanks for that!

rascal101 11-01-07 05:06 AM

Hear, Hear,
 
I second what Monolith Says, Thansk devs and UBI for a great add on , cant wait, really pissed off and dissapointed when SH4 first came out, now ith some great modds its worth playing, reminds me of.......SH3

More power to them hope with a bit of encouragement new addons will follo, who knows some one may even beat the to it and mod an Atlantic Campaigne.

Personally I prefer the Atlantic, guess I prefer the challenge of things getting harder as time progresses not easier, but whatever its all personal preferance.

Roll on the UBoat add on even if it odd choice, cant see why they dont just do an Atlantic add on and have done with it. Though if you read the excellent U Boat Far From Home, based on U 862 which made it as far as Gisbourne in NZ singking a few vessels on the way much to their own surprise as much as any one else.

As far as I can make out 47 U BOats were assigned to the Monsun boat fleet throught the latter paqrt of the war, most it seems were IXD2s and IXC/40s along with a few captured Italian subs I have even found mention of two VIIF's that were assigned though both never made further than the Cape Verde Islands. The majority of Monsun boats were sunk along the African West Coast by US and UK Hunter Killer groups. 18 Uboats actually made it to Penang, Jakarta, Singapore or Sebang, with some boats actually seem to have made a successful return trip, usually captured or skuttled in Norway

U862 under Kapitanleutnant Heinrich Timm seems to be the only one who made a real go of it sinking seven ships on his epic voyage and it appears he survived more by luck than designed as he was being tracked at Bletchley Park. He caused havoc with the Australian coastal defence as no one would belive there was a UBOAT operating off Southern Aust. Seems theat all told the Monsun flett accounted for just over 68 Allied ships sunk, so it seems the whole exercise was desperate and proved nothing.

If UBI models this well and realistically, for those of us who like a challenge, this little add on could actually be a bit of fun, as it would appear the odds are well stacked against your ever getting to the Pacific, much less sinking anything, roll on UBI, but please do a good job, and dont release it half baked, please!!!

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Originally Posted by MONOLITH
I'm having a hard time understanding why people choose to toss such negativity and criticisim, about something they know very little about, right into the face of the devs that worked hard on it and are reading and posting in this thread.

The level of disrespect shown to game developers; I'm not sure how they can swallow it everyday and want to keep on doing it for a living.

But I for one, am greatful that they do.

maerean_m, keep your chin up. I'm looking forward to the add-on.


Galanti 11-01-07 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaves

Trincomalee, now that's where I say they should have added a British sub to the addon. So many possibilities with the SH engine, if only UBI allowed the DEVS to do it all.

Y'know, I've almost finished 'One of our Submarines' about the adventures of HMS Storm in the Pacific. I'd never had much of an interest in Brit subs before, but picked this gem up at a military used-bookstore and now I'd love to sortie in one of the T-, S-, or U- jobbies, whether from Ceylon or Malta.

It's clear this addon is intended to draw the Atlantic crowd back into the franchise and keep the green flowing, and like many I can't find much fault with that if it means I get to play submarines for years to come with an ever-evolving engine.

But I would have much preferred expanding the playable sub force to the Brit and Japanese, which to the best of my knowledge, has never been done before! Not to mention inclusion of some new Jap coastal traffic, amd smaller escorts. And the V-boats. And maybe another Jap escort carrier class or two.

I also can't help but wonder how some of the obvious 'liberties' (hero crewmembers, command of fictional task forces) are going to go down with the harcore types (of which I count myself), and whether these things are going to optional or not.

Excalibur Bane 11-01-07 11:22 AM

Hmm. I certainly didn't see this one coming. What pray tell, we're they thinking? Of all the cool and nifty things they could have put into SH4 with an expansion, they decide on U-boats? Ugh.:damn:

I won't be getting this expansion, that much is for sure. Oh, well. At least the 1.4 patch will be free. :)

TDK1044 11-01-07 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur Bane
Hmm. I certainly didn't see this one coming. What pray tell, we're they thinking? Of all the cool and nifty things they could have put into SH4 with an expansion, they decide on U-boats? Ugh.:damn:

I won't be getting this expansion, that much is for sure. Oh, well. At least the 1.4 patch will be free. :)



It only makes sense if the ultimate goal is to add Silent Hunter 3 within Silent Hunter 4. This Add On gives the modders all the elements they need in order to create a U Boat Atlantic campaign in SH4.

AVGWarhawk 11-01-07 12:36 PM

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I also can't help but wonder how some of the obvious 'liberties' (hero crewmembers, command of fictional task forces) are going to go down with the harcore types (of which I count myself), and whether these things are going to optional or not.
The add on is made for everyone, hardcore and the casual gamer. The game is created to please as many as it can. Hardcore and the bang bang shoot'em up crowd alike. In the past the developers left many files open for modders to tinker until their hearts delight! No reason to force feed ficticious senerios that can not be altered to ones liking starting with this add on. That does not follow suit.

For the folks that have issue with historical accuracy with the add-on, just how many previous SH games were historically accurate and sold as historically accurate? None. The modders make it historical for the diehard historical fans. Lets keep what comes out of the box and what the modders can do with it on two separate playing fields.

danlisa 11-01-07 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
The modders make it historical for the diehard historical fans. Lets keep what comes out of the box and what the modders can do with it on two separate playing fields.

I can live with that.:up:

Ubi can release the arcade version.
The modders can make it a simulation.

AVGWarhawk 11-01-07 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by danlisa
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
The modders make it historical for the diehard historical fans. Lets keep what comes out of the box and what the modders can do with it on two separate playing fields.

I can live with that.:up:

Ubi can release the arcade version.
The modders can make it a simulation.


Lets face it, SH3 out of the box was not bad. Historically accurate, heck no. Same with SH4. My thoughts here are, let the non- historical XVIIIIIIIIII go and be please that all the tools will be there to get SH3 Atlantic style uboat warfare into SH4. Sure, I would loved to have seen more given to the SH4 PTO but it was not in the cards. Perhaps this was a great big thanks for the SH3 diehards who kept the genre alive over the years in modding and making noise with SH3 assuring a SH4. Has anyone looked at it like this?

Jimbuna 11-01-07 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by danlisa
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
The modders make it historical for the diehard historical fans. Lets keep what comes out of the box and what the modders can do with it on two separate playing fields.

I can live with that.:up:

Ubi can release the arcade version.
The modders can make it a simulation.


Lets face it, SH3 out of the box was not bad. Historically accurate, heck no. Same with SH4. My thoughts here are, let the non- historical XVIIIIIIIIII go and be please that all the tools will be there to get SH3 Atlantic style uboat warfare into SH4. Sure, I would loved to have seen more given to the SH4 PTO but it was not in the cards. Perhaps this was a great big thanks for the SH3 diehards who kept the genre alive over the years in modding and making noise with SH3 assuring a SH4. Has anyone looked at it like this?

Probably.....plus a whole host of other ways :lol:

danlisa 11-01-07 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
........all the tools will be there to get SH3 Atlantic style uboat warfare into SH4. Sure, I would loved to have seen more given to the SH4 PTO but it was not in the cards. Has anyone looked at it like this?

This will eventually go hand in hand. There is no sense improving the UBoat Addon without improving on the PTO scenario & visa versa.

As for the tools needed to do this.:hmm: The only thing that would help at this late stage would be the source code (not going to happen BTW). Certain people have already developed the tools needed to accomplish 99% of what is required and more is being learned every day.;)

Let me leave it at this. It's a done deal. There will be a accurate representation of the PTO & UBoat war within SH4. I'd put money on it.

AVGWarhawk 11-01-07 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by danlisa
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
........all the tools will be there to get SH3 Atlantic style uboat warfare into SH4. Sure, I would loved to have seen more given to the SH4 PTO but it was not in the cards. Has anyone looked at it like this?

This will eventually go hand in hand. There is no sense improving the UBoat Addon without improving on the PTO scenario & visa versa.

As for the tools needed to do this.:hmm: The only thing that would help at this late stage would be the source code (not going to happen BTW). Certain people have already developed the tools needed to accomplish 99% of what is required and more is being learned every day.;)

Let me leave it at this. It's a done deal. There will be a accurate representation of the PTO & UBoat war within SH4. I'd put money on it.

I second that. Also, if this add-on is a success (pay for it) what would you think of another add on with more PTO goodies? Lets look at IL2 and what a huge success it was for Oleg Maddox and UBI. The house that Oleg built. Much the same could happen here.


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