Beginning to get immersed in SH4. Just got in:

US Submarines 1941-45, by Jim Christley and Tony Bryan, a 50 page well illustrated paperback.

Submarines: The Silent Service in World War II, a DVD I'll need to find the time to view.

Submarine Stories edited by Paul Stillwell
Great collection of tales by U.S. submariners from the beginning to the nuclear age. Lots of WWII accounts of battle, personalities, politics, technology.

ALso just reread Take Her Deep by Galatin & Silent Running by Calvert

And haven't started Scorpion Down by Ed Offley yet

Picked up all these while I repaired my rig. Lightning storm fried my old system. New motherboard and a added a pretty good UPS as insurance, hopefully.

Question, anyone read any of this series? There are several in print, paperbacks, on Cod, Tang, Wahoo, Argonaut.

U.S.S. Cod (SS-224): American Submarine War Patrol Reports (Riverdale Books Naval History) (Paperback)

Finally managed to finish reading Beano Annual 1974 .. Awesome :rotfl:

"Discharged Dead", the wartime adventures of a submarine stoker [British 'T' Class subs he served on in the Second World War]; true account, published 1956.

Also recommend "Convoy" by Martin Middlebrook if you desire factual information of their movements etc. during the Second World War.

These books [inc Beano] are out of print but could probably be found on E-Bay or specialist Bookshops.

Just picked this up at the USS Cod two weeks ago. I've just finished the first WP and it is nice but a bit stuffy to read. Not at all like the narratives I've been reading. It is interesting but not for everyone. BTW, the USS Cod is very well preserved and I had a great unguided tour followed later by a tour guide taking me back on deck to answer some of my questions. Great folks taking care of a sweet ole gal.

I've been reading Roscoe's US Submarine Operations in WWII. Great read for book published in 1949.

That's what I was thinking, "Just the Facts, Ma'am" sort of narrative. But, I might order one out of curiosity.

BTW - Ordered Roscoe's 2 volume set "Submarine Operations & Destroyer Operations" from some used outfit and still waiting for it. Think this edition was printed in the 50's.

Long ago I borrowed Roscoe's Sub Ops book & Blair's Silent Victory from the local library. My recollections of these is no doubt a conflation of the information from one book to the other. But I do remember my amazement at Silent Victory, blow by blow through the pacific. Good time to permanently add them to the shelf.

Anyway - GREAT books in this list!

"Very Special Intelligence" by Patrick Beesly
(C) Hamish Hamilton Ltd. 1977

My second time through this one. It is an absolutely vital
book for anyone trying to comprehensively study and
understand the battle of the atlantic.

It Follows the Admiralty Operational Intelligence Center (OIC) from
1939 through 1945 with and Discusses in detail the often this often
Overlooked component of the battle that was in many ways absolutely
vital to Success in the Battle of the Atlantic.

Similar Centers were eventually set up in Canada and The US for prosecution
of the Battle.

an Excellant book for any battle of the atlantic historian or enthusiast.
M

I've had two on my list for a long time...
On my next trip to the local Barnes & Noble (maybe tonight) :hmm:

Blind Mans Bluff
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea

Got kinda tired of Submarines and Naval Warfare so I my current reading list is:

Foundation's Edge by Issac Asimov (I just finished reading the 1st three books of the series)
The Hichiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Duglas Adams
and
Probability Moon by Nancy Kress

Yea I'm on a big Sci Fi trip right now.

I also read "Cold Allies" by Patricia Anthony, a very intresting combonation of WWIII and UFOs.

Blind Man's Bluff is interesting. Account of peacetime "secret" stuff going on in the deep. I would be interested in your review or comments on this book, if you were so inclined.

The Last Patrol. Documents the final patrols and last moments of all US subs lost in the Pacific.

Seems that reefs were almost as big a killer of the sub as the IJN was.

The Rising Sun: the Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945
 

Currently really enjoying John Toland's The Rising Sun: the Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945.

Fascinating book!

Just finnished reading the man they couldnt kill a story about a submarineer who has more luck than red rum a very good book cost nothing as i found it in the rubbish at work, but a good read.

Yeah OK... I did pick em both up last week and now I'm halfway thru 20k Leagues. I'll post back with a paragraph summary on Blind Man's Bluff in a week or two.


I never read Verne's book before and a few things standout...

1) If you're into animal conservation and such you probably won't appreciate what shows up on Nemo's menu.

2) "Nemo" means "Nothing" in Latin... He was basically tellin the professor you don't need to know my real name.

3) A "League" is equivalent to 3 nautical miles. I always had it in my head that "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" was referring to some great depth... It's the horizontal distance they travelled underwater, not the depth! :oops: :rotfl:

Right now I'm reading The Deerslayer by James Fenimore Cooper. Not too bad.

About to finish Les Miserables by Victor Hugo. (I often read more than one book at a time.)

Finished in the last two weeks:

The Secret History of the CIA by Joseph J. Trento. Sucked. Propagandistic garbage that dwelled too much on conspiracy theories and not enough on fact.

Loyal Comrades, Ruthless Killers: The Secret Services of the USSR 1917-1991 by Slava Katamidze. Not too bad, could have used more depth but the author attempted to be fair to all parties involved.

The Parsifal Mosaic by Robert Ludlum. Not bad, enjoyable time waster. Ludlum was always a much better writer than he allowed himself to be.

I also picked up a copy of the new Weird Tales Magazine. Don't waste your time with this once great magazine. They've shucked their past and now want to be hip and street-wise. Sucked to high heaven. Lovecraft and Howard are rolling over in their graves.

Also read H.P. Lovecraft's Magazine of Horror. I highly recommend this magazine for horror afficionados. Not bad at all.

I read that, too, when I was in college. Fascinating read. Toland is a good historian, imo.

Roscoe's books were written right after the war, and contain errors that had no time to be corrected, such as the U.S. submarine claim of sinking a Japanese carrier at Midway. Blair's work is much more recent, and has the benefit of newer information, especially the Japanese accounts of events.

@Yankee-V: I've never heard of the war patrol books, but I'll be looking at getting them now.
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...ts=t&y=10&x=56

The Price Of Admiralty, written by the usually well-regarded, said that the Kaga was hit by three torpedoes from Nautilus, which all exploded and broke the carrier in half.

The bizarre thing is, the book was written in 1989, years after everyone already knew the true fate of the Kaga and that Nautilus's attack was a failure. I don't know how that little blunder got in there! :doh:

Shouldn't John Keegan's name be in there somewhere?:rotfl:

I agree; it's funny how myths get perpetuated. When 'someone' misapplied the famous Edmund Burke quote on evil and responsibility to Hitler, I looked it up, and found a site which lists a great many variations on the quote, all showing how things get screwed up especially on the web, but also in supposedly 'researched' books.

U-Boats in the Mediterranean 1941-44 by Lawrence Patterson. Recommend it heartly to anyone interested:up: