I sent Obama a letter stating he could send my wife there. I'm sure after a week of her chatter, Kim would shoot himself.

Seoul remains calm despite North Korea's sabre-rattling:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...rattling-seoul

Did someone in NK blink?

"North Korea's stance, however, can be notoriously difficult to interpret.
In a later release Monday on KCNA, Pyongyang announced the adoption of a law "consolidating" its position as a nuclear power that would use its weapons only “to repel invasion or attack from a hostile nuclear weapons state and make retaliatory strikes.

Among the law's pledges were that North Korea would store its weapons responsibly, that it would not use them against non-nuclear nations, and that it would participate in nonproliferation talks -- though the last clause came with the condition that there was “improvement of relations with hostile nuclear weapons states.”

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...e-threats?lite

Politicize much Time?
Yea great quote since aircraft are designed and built immediately and only under Republican Presidents.

The B-52 was a response to a design requirement issued during the Truman administration. Even had its 1st flight under Truman, they would be introduced in to service under Eisenhower.

The B-2 began theoretical work under Nixon and Ford, and design work under Carter. The design was finalized during Reagan's term, and would not be in service until the Clinton administration.

The requirements for the F-22 were spelled out back under Reagan, and the design finalized under H. W. Bush. They actually started building the planes under Clinton.

At the very least he will plant a victory garden. :88)

is North Korea working on advanced nuclear weapon?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...519_story.html

Markus

It should be noted that historically, NK has started such yapping shortly after the election of past SK presidents.

I doubt it.

Are they working on it? Sure. Most likely

But working on it and being able to weaponize it are too different things. They have a lot of problems to overcome before they can put on on a rocket.

A boat/barge delivery is about the only option they have. They could put it in a cargo aircraft and fly it into Soul.

The value of nuclear weapons in in the defense threat. That is given up if anyone actually uses one.

Who's soul?:hmmm: (where's Steve!!)

Absolutely not. Hiroshima and Nagasaki porved it. The value of nukes can be quite offensive - as long as the other side does not own similar weapons. When one allows the other side to gain them too, then it becomes a value best described as mutual deterrence, which is a weakening in the status of the side that formerly owned nukes alone. The resulting mutual paralysis I would not call successful defense, though, but paralysis: if I allow to get paralysed and being reduced in the number of options available to me, then this is best evidence for that I have NOT successfully defended myself, I suffered a loss and the other side achieved a gain.

Also, when my defence is such that I must accept own destruction in order to repel the aggressor by destroying him, it again sounds a bit queer to call that a "defense". That may be the reason why they said that nuclear WWIII with the USSR would not have known any winners, only losers.

The trick in all this is not to allow an inferior enemy to become as strong as you are. THEN you can successfully defend yourself. Equality in strength may please some inappropriate sense of sportsmanship in some gentleman-styled wannabe-warriors. But it does nothing positive for you. Strength is a virtue. Equality or weakness are not, but are just this: weakness. That strength needs a strong sense of responsibility, does not reduce its value. It just means that it needs a strong sense for responsibility, else it becomes tyrannic and aggressive. However, if you are deadlocked in a stalemate with the other side, or are inferior to it, your options are fewer, or non-existent.

SBX relocated closer to NKorea.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...rth_Korea.html

This one-of-a-kind is described as being able to "detect a baseball flying 5000 km away".

Even if that maybe is exaggerated, it certainly is a very huge, wide open eye.

And a big, fat, slow-floating tasty target.

For what? The DPRK doesn't have the range to hit it. Their submarines would be detected by the SBXs guard and sunk before they got near it, likewise their aircraft.

A principle remark.

German media stressed that they are bringing it - original quote - "close to the Northkorean coast", bringing images of "slightly outside the 6 miles zone" on my mind. :D - And then switching on the beacon, saying "Hi everbody, here I am." :salute:

I assume they do not place it that close. :woot:

She's got a max radar range of 2000km, which is beyond the returnable range of the Sang-O, but not the Romeo, however she won't be alone out there, there'll be AEGIS ships and ASW ships nearby, maybe even a 688i just in case, and a Romeo is not exactly a top range boat, and would definitely have to snorkel a few times before she got near the fleet which would make her a noisy target.

In regards to airforce, the KPAF has IL-28s which don't have the range to go there and back, and would be shot down before they got near enough to do anything dangerous.

Their missile boats could make it that far (just) but they'd be watched the entire way and plinked when they got within weapons range. You can guarantee that there are US vessels sitting in international waters outside most major DPRK ports, and drones watching the others.

or they will send a couple of these:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2081/p0080224.jpg

:har::har::har:

Nah, the people are too starved to pull the oars to get that thing to move!

Either that or it'll open fire and explode. :haha:

Looks like the torpedo will strike amidships right abaft the bridge. :yep:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2081/p0080224.jpg

TBH it looks like it already has! :haha:

I take it you noticed the placement of the N-2 SSM launch tubes.

I can't help but think what would happen in a strong cross wind... :hmmm: