When you put the statistics in that context, its pretty scary. :yep:

When you transfer those statistics doesn't it mean europe should be having more school shootings than america?
After all it has the same media the same video games the same family breakdowns the same celebrity nobodies(it even has some countries where corporal punishment is really illegal:03:) .
So why isn't it producing 500 potential Lanzas to Americas 300?

Given that we are told that we don't understand your gun culture and are often reminded that so many Americans consider guns as a really important thing does it suggest that where all the other factors are relatively equal the problem lies with the one thing that we are told is very different?

Gun ownership is a right afforded by the Constitution. There is a gun culture as you suggest. Normally called gun clubs. I don't see guns as important. I believe the right to own one is the important part of the equation. Not the actual gun itself. Why is it not producing 500 potential Lanzas to the Americas 300? Perhaps it is but the tool to accomplish what Lanzas did is not present. People kill people. Guns just help them do it.

I don't understand your "very different" comment. Can you clarify?

He's just trolling for trouble. Don't expect a decent answer.

The truth is that Europe and the US are very different. In demographics, culture, history, approach to health care and government makeup.

And as the Norway, Hungerford, Miami Showband, Kingsmill, the Remembrance Day bombings, Vukovar, Greysteel, Dunblane and Omagh killings show they have their share of massacres as well.

Yes, it would seem these occurrences happen just about everywhere. The method a bit different but the same end result.

Gun Dealers have to love this mess when they talk about banning guns, the one up the road has sold out of assault weapons and clips. However, I see Dick's is going to no longer sell these type guns....

Totalbiscuit released a video yesterday, giving his opinion on the link between
these shootings and violent video games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4

Since you are just a troll who repeatedly lies because you cannot make a point that is very funny.

What a strange mix of events, well done , you even manage two decent examples from a 25 year period which can actually fit what you need to say, I wonder if a 2 year period would provide 25 American examples which would all fit:hmmm:

So onto someone sensible....
What are we repeatedly told in topics like this is "very different" about the USA?
If you take Augusts list of different which is unsurprisinly actually very wrong you should be able to spot the thing that is missing.

Guns and the mentality of owning guns is very different from other cultures that I have dealt with directly, indirectly or read about. But that may not be what you are talking about. What is the topic? Precisely what portion of the topic that is missing? It might be time not to use "riddle me this" to spot the thing that is missing.

in America ita crackpots with guns, in chija your crackpots use knives, in Japan your crackpots use poison gas

its the crackpot that we should focus on, not the tool.

Indeed. :yep:

Everyone has their own opinion, but I think we all agree, what we have been doing ain't working.

It is the crackpot, but the tool certainly helps them kill quickly and effectively.

Exactly Neal.

I would agree, but the tool such as the gun, needs to have stipulation attached to it. The gun owner keeping the weapon under lock and key. Easy access(in the home) is what is proving to be the problem. Who is ultimately responsible?

Excactly, so when all the elements that are not different are removed from the equation then the remaining element which is different is the main cause.

Since that is already spelt out and was obvious anyway how about a simple riddle. Can you see why all of Augusts examples of non American massacres apart from two are totally irrelevant?

No, and the way in which you go about attacking them doesn't help make it any more clear. You seem to live on your own plane of existence, and expect everybody else to understand it by default.

I back this statement up. :up: Tribesman, your a smart person and some of the ideas and statements you post are brilliant. Then there are times it is all riddles. This is one of those times.

I agree Neal. Was surprised to see this article in a way. Armored back packs for kids are a popular item now, and sales of assault rifles like the one used in Newtown, are on the rise, along with the clips that hold extra rounds.

On the one hand, parents are buying something to protect their children. On the other hand, the very thing that was used to kill those kids, sales are going through the roof.:huh:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50255928

My son just got home from school and told me it was put on lockdown and police took over the school...No shooter of course, appears some kids joking with other kids about school shootings and another kid reported it.

The sad thing, is when they did this, many kids went nuts, being high school, many just went home.

The take any threat seriously these days. Even those joking on FB. There has been rumors of violence at my kids HS tomorrow. End of the world and all. I let my kids know they can stay home if they like.