Most of the Posters in this thread should seriously think about this:

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Matthew 7, 3-5

Why can't some of you folks just wait until after the bodies have cooled off before using a tragedy to promote your personal political viewpoint? Six people are dead, a nine-year old girl was murdered in cold blood, and the first thing to pop into your heads are "FU Sarah Palin!" or "hurrr... I wonder how the sociobommucrats the gonna spin this one!"

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. :nope:

Read an interesting commentary today on this issue.

When we had the Fort Hood shooting, people went out of their way, and IMO rightly so, to point out that this was a single nut job who happened to be Muslim. It was not a Muslim thing, it was a nut job thing.

Well if that attitude was correct for that case, then why is the AZ shooting any different. As far as we know so far (and we do NOT know all the facts) this was a single nut job who happened to shoot a congresswomen who was the target of some political rhetoric.

We still have no proof this is anything but a nut job.

Until some facts and not just coincidence comes to light, it must remain just another nutter committing a terrible crime.

Emotionally, some may want to make connections or not make connections. Well that's human nature. But logically, nothing has been demonstrated yet.

One should never confuse emotional feelings with logical thought.

I am waiting for all the facts to be discovered before opining.

Fox just mentioned the Ft. Hood shooting and how Obama and many of the same Congressmen stated to slow down, don't jump to conclusions because he was muslim....A muslim attacking a military base and we shouldn't expect he did it because he was muslim so calm down....he may just be a nut.

It is becoming sickening how the left is pushing it for political gain. What a discredit to Gabby. This nut has been chasing Gabby for 3 years now.

Where you wrong is thinking it's just one side or another is pushing this for political gain. Anyone that does it, and it's both sides, is a disgusting human being.

The one time you'll probably ever see me agree with Gold coin Beck is when he says: "Turning these horrific events into an opportunity for a political attack is a very childish response to a very grown-up problem. This is not about winning a political blame game."

Amen.

OMG!!! This is breaking news!

Mookie agrees with GB on something:o. The Aztecs were right, the world really is coming to an end.:haha:

First Mookie admits he's a socialist, now he agrees with GB on something. So the conclusion I came to is: Mookie is in a political intervention 12-step program. So, by step 12, Mookie will have a Reagan shirt that says "Win one for the Gipper!":hmmm:

Party before country also applies to some citizens, not just politicians.

It is sad when some people can not deal with life in terms other than a political "us vs. them" concept.

Your thoughts represent exactly why I became an Independent. I am not a Republican nor a Democrat, but an American.

However, I must strongly object to your last statement. I think it was totally inappropriate...... I like horses. :)

Here Here!:salute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj47l...layer_embedded

Father of nine year old killed doesn't want politicians to use her as an excuse to restrict Americans freedoms.

I don't think freedoms are going to be limited, But i think we need to first take a look at the violence in this nation, and second our support systems for the mentally ill, like this kid. He shouldn't have slipped through the cracks. If somebody would have noticed and helped this kid, this would never have happened.

:rotfl2: Where's my gold coin?!

In the mail...
The best part is, we didn't even need to put you in the comfy chair.

Some of those citizens, can be found on subsim.

Yup.

I'm sick of them both. If i had my way, If i were in any position to do it, id tear both of those parties apart, into confetti sized pieces and flush it down the toilet where they belong.


I never was much on hypenation, or hyphenated americans. There is no "whatever-american" Your either an American, or your not.

There's only one horse i like, and it's Red, rest of em ain't s*** :O:

Helping the mentally ill is very difficult. You can lock them up, or not. If you favor removing their liberty, then the problem is soluble. If they are to not be institutionalized, it becomes pretty much impossible. People with serious, organic mental illness can only sometimes be treated effectively with meds (and nothing else works at all on issues like schizophrenia). Those that are effectively treated very often take themselves off the drugs as soon as they feel better (since the drugs have terrible side-effects), and without the drugs, it's a nonstop ride back to crazytown.

Unfortunately there will always be shallow, arrogant people who are incapable of actual discussion. They come from all sides of every argument, and the bottom line of everything they have to say can be summed up in one simple phrase:

"I'm right and you're stupid!"

yes, it is a problem...but it's evident he had some serious issues...even schizophrenia. In an odd way, I do not condone the horrendous things he did, but i feel bad that a young man, only 21, was driven by madness to do such unspeakable acts. His life is effectively over.

Yes, he may not have responded to meds for some types of mental illness (i could look it up... negative schizophrenia?) I think his case was obviously bad enough to warrant the side effects of the drugs. but there should have been some type of system to help this poor kid who needed help.

Suppose everyone should just take a break and allow the truth about what happened and why to be spun by the left? I would complain about the right if they were doing so also.No one's death should be exploited for political gain.

Help, I can't decide if this is a tragedy or not! Any news I have read haven't answered the most important question that has been bothering me ever since I heard about this:

Was the child in there, in fact, a liberal or a conservative? She was there, wasn't she, so she must have had an opinion. And no excuses about being a child, I don't want to hear them. I really need to know this, so I could decide if I should call this a tragedy or not!

On a more serious note, are there any news about the congresswoman's state? Last I heard there was still at least hope for her, which is much better than nothing, I guess.

Hottentot, from what I heard on the national news this evening it sounds like she has a chance of pulling through. It's a wait-and-see, I guess. To your other thoughts: yeah, what a crock. Par for the course.


Bubblehead, I have been watching the news and I am not seeing a lefty attack. Get off your high horse and learn something.