JScones - First, I thank you for creating and supporting SH3 Commander!

I reviewed the thread back a few pages to see what events transpired and I can emphatize concerning the various issues encountered while supporting a software application. I support several applications as an analyst at work and must provide an interface between the user issues/concerns/critiques and the programmers/developers. Some days it is a very stressful environment of trying to weed out the actual issues from all the 'wanna haves" to the software and getting development to agree the items need fixing and then fix those that really need to be fixed. Sometimes it seems I am in the middle with both sides angry at me!!

Thankfully I am paid to do this! In the realm of freeware there is not much (if any) monetary compensation but the user issues will continue to be reported and expectations to fix the application remain. I appreciate you sticking with this for as long as you have.

So, once again, I thank you for SH3 Commander. It is an excellent tool to use with SH3. I wish you the best and thank you for allowing the latest update to be hosted elsewhere so that many of us can update our programs. Cheers!

Well, that turned for the worse. I started at page 5 and worked my way up to the pulling of the mod off the download site. All I can say is it looked like everyone was going at JS like banshi with issue after issue. In short, give the guy some breathing room to handle any issues. Take a break JS! I have never used this mod but I know that ALL say SH3 without Commandor is like scotch and water without the scotch....it just does not taste right. In fact, it has no taste at all. So, go outside, feel the sun on your face and smell the fresh air for a while. Come on back when you are ready to add the scotch to the water. :up:

SH3 Commander Release 3.1 is now available!
 

JS,

I have not even bothered to read further back in this trail, if it has made you decide to leave then it is not worth reading. Your work here has been monumental and I am very sorry that something or someone has made you decide to leave - what a loss to the SH3 community (take note those whiners concerned). I am very sorry to hear that you feel compelled to leave and you can rest assured that you will be missed. Your work and dedication has been greatly appreciated and I continue to enjoy the benefit of your hours of dedication and sacrifice. Thank you very much J Scones and I hope you may decide to come back - if not, all the very best for the future.


Respectfully,
K Gunz

Excellent words.

Good luck JS,you will be greatly missed:cry:

Sometimes it is worth reading :yep:, if you did it would give you an idea on the sheer amount and type of questions that make their way to JSc, as well you would also see that Sailor Steve ( not that he needs me to help him out ) feels bad for what has happened.

Time sometimes has a way of working things out, let's hope that is the case here.


RDP

I'm also am sorry to see you leave (especially on such a negative note). Your SH3 Cmdr software helped to breathe new life into SH III & you will be sorely missed. We are/were fortunate to have someone like you who was willing to invest so much time and effort in creating this great add-on.

I would like to close by wishing all the best in the future.:)

SH3 Commander Release 3.1 is now available!
 

Reallydedpoet,

'Sometimes it is worth reading :yep:, if you did it would give you an idea on the sheer amount and type of questions that make their way to JSc, as well you would also see that Sailor Steve ( not that he needs me to help him out ) feels bad for what has happened.'

Respectfully I am sure you did not really mean to patronise me. I have been visiting this site long enough to know the kinds of remarks that can be made here - all (I'm sure) with the best intentions. However, when circumstances lead to a great modder leaving the scene should it not make us all stand up and pay attention? I think this is a very worrying time for Subsim - I think I have seen at least 2 very good modders leave in just 24 hours - that is not good news is it? I am sure the rest of this trail does make fascinating and interesting reading but to lose modders to me is a tragic loss. Is it not time to try to keep those modders who remain and make sure that we do not p**s them off too? I think so.

Respectfully.
K Gunz

Relax KG, I was simply pointing out what you are alluding to in your last post, " paying attention ". If you are so concerned with someone leaving, would you not want to see perhaps why, so as to get a clear rather than general picture of the situation.


RDP

Man that was one good piece of writing :up:

Sorry
 

As a beginner my mods I did not only to improve my game but also for you the SH3 game players to have the choice of whether or not you wanted to use them too.
It is very stressful for any Modder to release an item and then to find that your hard work is being torn to shreds is upsetting to say the least. you all could see that JScones was trying his hardest to put right all that you found but he found himself under too much pressure and sailor Steve was just the last straw. We all know Steve Didn’t mean anything but sometimes you need to try and work things out yourselves or give the Modder time to take a breath how can you put something right when you are being bombarded with questions that show the person isn’t reading the instructions and wants someone to make it work for them. I’m sure JScones will feel a little bit silly once he calms down and realises he overreacted so just leave off and give him time.
Hell there is sometimes outside pressures that make it hard enough I should know
And Sorry JScones for what I said but I too was getting it in the neck too.

A plea for calmer heads to prevail here. Both JScones and Sailor Steve are respected members of this Forum. I, like many others, am only capable of running mods at all because of the excellent work done by JScones.....work that he's under no obligation to perform or share.

So let's just appreciate the awesome work done and the fact that it's very easy to get frustrated with computer software whether you're trying to write it or use it. :D

In my opinion the two most important tools/mods for the SHIII community have been SH3 Commander alongside the JSGME mod enabling utility. :yep:

The fact that someone made these for free and in their own time makes me even more grateful to their creator Jscones. And since their first release how many updates/improvements have there been? Many is what and probably more than we deserve. In fact the after release support for these utils/mods would put commercial game software developers to shame. :yep:

I could also say the same of the GWX team and their efforts to bring a stable top quality mod to the community. All these thousands of hours of work are done for free. That is passion and dare I say it, love for this simulation that quite frankly would probably be collecting dust right now if it wasn't for the passion of the many here who sought to improve SHIII.

Ditto to what TDK1044 said earlier. :yep:

Let's just enjoy the fruits of all the brilliant modders who have contributed to make SHIII what it is today. I don't blame or resent modders if they want a break from it all and depart the SHIII scene be it for a short spell of rest or to permanently leave te scene and move onto something new. Their modding legacy will endure. SHIII has become a great sim in no small part thanks to people such as Jscones, the GWX team (present, past, and of course retired Kpt. Lehmann), and all the other hundreds of modders. The SHIII community have been incredibly blessed. So let's simply enjoy what we have and be thankful for it. :sunny:

Lets face it, JSGME is the #1 tool out there IMHO. For near-do-wells like myself, JSGME makes all of this very easy for me. Think about it, imagine jamming in 200 mb of files by hand and hoping for the best.

[REL] SH3 Commander Release 3.1 is now available!
 

RDP,

Thanks for your reply to my message. My understanding of 'paying attention' is to take note, watch out or be attentive. I didn't wish to get into a bun fight here. I am extremely shocked that in 24 hours I have read several threads where REALLY GREAT modders have decided to leave - that is not good surely? The politics behind it do not interest me, more important to me is the fact that we have lost another brilliant modder whose contribution to this sim has been amazing. I really do hope he decides to come back. My point to my original post here was to say, come on everybody - let's try not to annoy any more of our remaining modders to the extent that they leave.

Rgds
K Gunz

No fight here, let's say we are coming to an understanding :D:yep:, nothing wrong with that.

I don't think anybody is interested in seeing folks leave here on a bad note, be it a modder, non-modder or any member here at SUBSIM for that matter.
Let's hope this comes to a positive conclusion.


RDP

JScones,
Respect to you for all you have done in the past,
That said,

Sincerely hope to see you back............... soon.

Well, this is a bit disappointing
 

/rant on

I just read through this entire thread and what came through loud and clear is that many of the people here got very confused and started thinking they had *paid* for this software and deserved 24/7 tech support and hand-holding. No wonder the guy left.

The people here simply burnt him out with their incredibly stupid tech support questions which were likely unrelated to the mod itself. :damn:

For the record, I've installed the mod and have had zero problems. Then again, I am fairly competent with computers. My advice: if you're not, go elsewhere and come back when you're ready. I sincerely hope this doesn't happen again, but I've seen it happen on at least one other occasion (a modder for LOMAC).

Remember what motivates these guys. They want a little recognition and respect for the incredibly hard work they do. So think twice before you pester them with nonsense. And watch your damn tone. Sailor Steve came off like some clueless septuagenarian :doh:. Do you really think people have time to walk you through every little detail? Get in there and try to figure it out. Bugging the modder should be your *last* resort. :nope:

/rant off

Gee, you like to jump in the deep end with your first post, by the way welcome to SubSim matey ;)

lol yer... way to break the ice dude! :up: