I admire Mike's work on his upcoming game...but how can a moderator be left "unchecked" with personal insults...and yes they were made? :roll::o

EDIT: With the way this thread is going...strongly suggestion of a lock is in order.

I'm not hostile to you Scandium. Nor do i believe i insulted you. IIRC, and i'm kind of busy right now to check back, it was something about you feeling that i wasn't caring enough for the plight of the Canadians that were trapped in Lebanon.

So i think your point about who's president is sort of moot.

Fair enough, we have a truce then. If only international relations were so easily resolved ;)

Ok, you guys asked for it, I'm making Gizzmoe a special moderator in the General Topics forum. Prepare your wills! :rotfl:

http://www.subsim.com/terminator76.jpg

:yep: :D

ohhhh noooooo... not Gizzmoe...

:)

seriously,

Sonar... there were no personal attacks made... merely an objective look at the inhumanity of the situation going on over there...

with that, the totally irresponsible, inhumane, and uncivilized position that would justify the killing of innocent civilians, is an acceptable one... worse than that... it's INHUMANE, it's UNCIVILIZED...

It's the height of debased thinking... and for me to stand by and listen to any such 'speeches' by someone who has no first hand knowledge of the events going on there, would be like condoning these actions mentioned above, regardless of who is the initiator...

and that i cannot, in good conscience do... that i will not do...

August seems to have trouble when he's confronted with the truth... not my truth, not the truth from above, but the plain simple truth... he has trouble accepting facts... not facts run through the rumor mill, but plain objective facts...

and you, as well, seem to have trouble accepting that and pure objective criticism is not a personal attack...

why does august feel the need to make three or four unanswered posts, one right after the other, trying to show that he is the injured party here... nooo nooo nooo... this is a typical tactic when totally extreme viewpoints are countered with truth and factual information... it's his problem... not mine, and certainly not the forums...

everyone is entitled to an opinion... broadcast it on a public forum, and don't be surprised if everyone doesn't agree with that opinion... a plain and simple fact that both of you seem to have a problem with... or at least don't understand...

try and promote or preach an extreme idea, and don't be surprised as well, if you get an equally extreme reaction to it...

what do you seriously expect...

don't go whining to the forum admins when you find that what you say has been exposed for exactly what it is... if you can't stand the counterpoint, then don't post the foolishness...

plus

1- he has never been to Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, and i doubt Israel...
2- he most likely hasn't bought a Nissan anything yesterday... no matter what he said... and if he did, then he's a fool to have paid cash...

now, you'll probably see that as a personal attack as well... but it's obvious to anyone, that only a fool would pay cash up front, for any car...

3- why is he telling us this in the first place... who cares about what he bought, or about his finances...


to get back on topic, and to conclude...

anyone who lacks the basic considerations for innocent life is an uncivilized savage... just like anyone who pays cash up front for a car is a fool... if you share any of those two ideas, and post em in public, then you have branded yourself as to what you are...

i just make a point of it in my counterpoint...

and that's the fact that August, and you can't stand... or don't seem to understand...

why is this even an issue for discussion... isn't it obvious to all of you that the taking of innocent life is a morally repudnant crime... regardless of who is doing it... regardless of what the justification is...

this is no video game we are talking about... detach yourselves for a moment from Silent Hunter and Deadly Waters and whatever simulation of reality you are playing...

this is real life and death we're talking about here... there is no reset button... you can't press any key to try again...



--Mike

once things start to get out of control, i.e. there is more news coming in then we can digest, then people will start panicking and take the worst decisions. That would be bad. I hope it doesn't come to that, and it is slowly developing conflict that can be sustained at some point. Israel has no chance to kill Hizbollah. May be make some buffer zone.

Reality, the only way for Israel to solve this is to move elsewhere, the whole country. I really can't think of anything else that can solve this conflift. Well, a full out war against all arab countries around can do that as well, probably, but that is another option i don't think anyone is prepared to tackle. I am not smart enough to find a way out of this, probably.

I wonder if Mike will ever put up one of his threads - in defense of the Israeli victims of terror strikes from the last years, from the last decades. All in all they too count by the thousands, 1100 since autumn 2000 alone), but somehow they do not show up in his posts about how much compassion he has for human life. The bias is obvious. Possibly he will say that he has sympathy for Israeli children or women or men getting wiped out in the name of Islam and in the name of destroying Israel and conquering Palestine again. Wonderful. They will keep dying, but when dying they will have his sympathy then. That's worth to be mentioned at the funerals. That's so much better an attitude than what he tries to yell down here. That is so reasonable, so civilized, so humanistic. Is only a dead Israeli a good Israeli, then?

you surely are the poster boy for blind ignorance 'Bird...

first of all... look back at my first post on this general topic... it was to the lil soldier mom who frequents our board, and who has an even greater prediclection for one sided viewpoints (understandable from her perspective)...

i can direct you to it if you need...


second... we are talking about the current hostilities... i'm not gonna go back and recount all casualties throughout history of the savagery and hate between the Jews and the Muslims in the region... you have your statstics, the Muslims have theirs... i'm sure both sides are the injured party...

only someone like you would dare ask me such a foolish question... only someone like you would have the audacity to try and bait me into taking sides in this madness...

you would have me justify the innocent killing of civilians by either side... don't even try...

yesterday, i was siting here with a Russian Jew who has relatives in Israel, though not in the north, while i answered some of your foolishness... a very close friend of mine... he was surprised, but not totally surprised, to some of the responses i was getting...

just curious... are you even aware of the protests inside Israel itself against this latest action... for the very reasons i outlined previously...


plain and simple, the indiscriminant taking of life is immoral... it's uncivlized... it's savagery at it worst... whether it's a Jewish finger pulling the trigger, or an Arab or Muslim finger...

can you see now that this is the very reason i term people who think like you as savage, ignorant, and uncivilized...

of course you can't... why do i even ask...

--Mike

And more zigzagging.

And yes, I heared of the protests in Israel. I also heared that over 80% of Israelis support the war, saying they already waited too long, and that the onesided withdrawal in 2000 was a mistake. That is said in newsppaers from UIsrael, england, Germany, France, and I think I remember to have it seen quoted in an american newspaper as well. And those that protest - like you do not offer a realistic alternative how to reduce the threat of Hezbollah without destroying it whereever one sees it. they just want everybody to behave kind and friendly.

And still you have not one word left about the thousands of terror-victims in Israel. Not too mention that you do not reveal hoo to stop them from getting killed in the future without fighting Hezbollah.

Tell that Hezbollah in special that intentionally targets civilians, Syria and iran who armed Hezbollah, and tell that expansive Islam in general.

nonsense... there is no ziggzagging, as you call it... just a direct, clear, and concise response to your questions...

i'm telling that to all of you...

i will not be lured into take sides in this latest savagery...

my sympathies lie with those in the region who want to live... with who treasure life above all...

if given the resources, i would protect them, above all, from all of you over there who lack the vision to see the truth before you...

--Mike

Immer im Kreis herum, Papi, immer im Kreis... Avoiding answers is concise and direct and clear... Calling people monkeys that should be locked in a zoo is no offense, but an objective description... And targetting terrorists who slaughter civilians on and on and call it a religious duty is no self-defense, but the intentional terrorizing of innocents... But trolling remains trolling, no matter how hard you try to cover that. Have fun with yourself, after Kurushio you are the second one receiving the honour to be put on my ignore list.

you certainly have the right to indulge in your delusions 'bird...

--Mike

Oh my God, he is a moderator - but does not know the moderator rules. You can't ignore him, while he continues to abuse his position. That is really a bad choice. Ignore buttons does not work, is there a nuke button somewhere?

ahhh, so you have nothing else to defend yourself with for the topic at hand... so you choose a different path of attack...

and here we go... the typical whine of the defeated... abuse... such a specific term, isn't it...

sorry... off topic remarks will be ignored as well...

try pressing the 'educate thyself button' for starters...


--Mike