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Oberon 10-10-14 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2250259)
Unfortunately I disagree.
A small enough blast would tear the terrorist apart. Let's say he has a vest and his abdomen area is vaporized. chest and pelvis are shielding the rest from the heat, but not the shockwawe. And you have ebola infected bloody body parts landing on everyone around accompanied by the pink mist.

Some of the survivors panic and run, covered in blood bumping in people. More cool minded run home because for them that's the safest place. Family members help them clean up, soothing hugs may be in present...

But still, the death toll wouldn't be that high. Ebola is not really that easily transmitable. Your partner would have to either rub your bloody clothes on their own wounds or lick the clothes.
And even after that, the investigation would show the terrorist had Ebola and a public announcement would drive the witnesses and their families to hospitals where they would be checked and isolated and then treated.

Death toll would be higher from the initial blast than the virus.

Fair point, but like you say, the death toll from the blast would be greater than the virus, it's not really a good terrorist weapon. Although I suppose it would create a small panic which is probably the goal of such things, but at the end of the day compared to other viruses you could use, Ebola is not that effective. :hmmm:

ikalugin 10-10-14 09:07 AM

Well, not unless a terrorist gets a weaponised version of Ebola, but then getting a chemical agent or even a (fission) nuclear device would probably easier.

Oberon 10-10-14 09:13 AM

You mean like Ebolapox? Possible, but like you say, it'd be easier to grab some radioactive material, less likely to backfire and wipe out all mankind too. :03:

Dowly 10-10-14 10:19 AM

Nicholas Cage & Sean Connery will handle it. If they fail, there's Jack Bauer.

See, they shouldn't use a bomb at all. Just spray the virus on various bus windows,
and the window lickers will spread it.

ikalugin 10-10-14 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2250266)
You mean like Ebolapox? Possible, but like you say, it'd be easier to grab some radioactive material, less likely to backfire and wipe out all mankind too. :03:

Weaponised agents actually would beharder to spread amongst the population for the obvious reasons, but more contagious upon deployment. Morever a better way to deploy such biological weapon would be contaminating a water supply for a major population center. That said if you are doing that there are other readily availiable agents such as Amthrax, so going for the exotic (though cool) agents may be the wrong way to go round things.

August 10-10-14 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2250224)
The idea wouldn't work very well anyway, the 'bomber' would have to go and urinate or vomit on any potential victim, and unless it's a Friday night near the takeaway then I think that would start ringing alarm bells for people.

I'd say that depends on the amount of body fluids it takes to transmit the disease. It might be so little that wipe with a damp rag could do it.

Oberon 10-10-14 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2250367)
I'd say that depends on the amount of body fluids it takes to transmit the disease. It might be so little that wipe with a damp rag could do it.

Only if it goes through a cut on the hand, or people don't wash their hands that often.

August 10-10-14 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2250373)
Only if it goes through a cut on the hand, or people don't wash their hands that often.

It doesn't have to be transmitted through a cut. An absent minded rub of an eye or a nose with a hand that was recently on an infected stair well or escalator hand rail, door knob, elevator button etc would be enough I think.

Oberon 10-10-14 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2250437)
It doesn't have to be transmitted through a cut. An absent minded rub of an eye or a nose with a hand that was recently on an infected stair well or escalator hand rail, door knob, elevator button etc would be enough I think.

It's possible...the information on how long Ebola survives outside of a host varies from five minutes to five days. :hmmm:

Rockstar 10-11-14 07:45 AM

Hell, if it got the Canadians to say that it must be getting bad.
 
Canada is recommending to it's citizens (in the most polite manner of course) to leave Ebola stricken countries while commercial means are still available.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ca...untries-605121

Jimbuna 10-11-14 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2250437)
It doesn't have to be transmitted through a cut. An absent minded rub of an eye or a nose with a hand that was recently on an infected stair well or escalator hand rail, door knob, elevator button etc would be enough I think.

A rub of the eye is the suspected cause/origin of that infected spanish nurse iirc :yep:

Dread Knot 10-11-14 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2250521)
Canada is recommending to it's citizens (in the most polite manner of course) to leave Ebola stricken countries while commercial means are still available.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ca...untries-605121


Ahhh. That explains the 10 mile back-up northbound on I-35 into Minnesota. :D

Aktungbby 10-11-14 09:25 AM

DR. Hammstein will see you now!
 
At least they can begin treatment while they wait...near the Mayo Clinic at Rochester. http://www.beer-steins.com/hamms/H94LF.jpg:Kaleun_Cheers:just off the I-35 at Albert Lea

Oberon 10-12-14 10:55 AM

Aaand another one in the US has got it, supposedly whilst wearing full treatment gear...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzwYTS2CQAAUhwA.jpg

"The fact we don't know of a breach in protocol is concerning, because clearly there was"

http://www.accountingweb.com/sites/d...-celebrity.jpg

Rockstar 10-12-14 01:22 PM

Ok so protocol may not have been broken. Doesn't mean the protocol involved is effective. Maybe they should review their procedures to find the obvious weak link. But most likley in order to save face they will just insist it was perfect and doesn't need to be changed.


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