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For once, we agree. They are both driven by their twisted version of 'justice', be they Muslim, Christian, Left or Right wing...it's got nothing to do with what religion or political leanings they have.
Sometimes I wonder how the internet has affected things in terms of the spread of radical views and the influence on those who are prepared to take things one step further. |
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He looks like a character from warlock movies
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He has done no good service to people being critical of Islam and multiculuralism and the EU. When somebody now criticises Europe for becoming more Islamic and ignoring unwanted harsh realities about Muslim migration, he now will be confronted with "You like what happened in Utoya, eh? Want to kill them all, right? You are a potential massmurder yourself, you just don'T have the guts to do it, what?" Islam-critics already get brandmarked as insanes, as Islamophobes, as Nazis, to gag them in advance and not needing to deal with their arguments. Now they will be called potential massmurderers as well.
Great. What he did, in the longer run will help the left and Islam and the EU. Exactly the opposite of what he wanted to acchieve. |
As for the prison sentence...
21 years is a very, very, very long time. I'm 25, turning 26 in October, so basically that's my entire life. Just the idea of spending that long in prison is terrifying to me. This guy is 32, so if he was to spend 21 years locked away, he'd be 53 when he was finally let out. That's basically half his life gone. Considering he was a social failure who lived at home with his mother, I don't think he's got too many prior achievements to speak off, and now he won't be able to make too many more. He'll spend the next quarter of a century in prison as public enemy number one, surrounded by people who want him dead, and he will probably never, ever feel safe out on the streets again. But the bottom line is, we're Norwegians. We don't throw people in jail to satisfy people with an axe to grind. We lock them away because they're a threat to themselves or others, or when they've committed a crime and need to be punished and rehabilitated. As the Prime Minister said, no one can bomb or shoot us from being Norway. Even when he's served his sentence, he'll remain behind bars for as long as we deem him a threat to society. He'll never hurt a single person again, except perhaps himself. If that doesn't satisfy your bloodlust sufficiently, pity. We're not doing it for you. Quote:
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For what it's worth: flags in here have been raised halfway to the pole and at least some of the biggest cities (including my own) are having a mourning moment with candles being brought to the centres. I wish we could do more.
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I liked that Stoltenberg said he wants to try more democracy, however less naivety. I am happy that he did not propose a patriot-act.no. In Germany we already have the agitators, who call for more surveillance and less citizens rights. I have stomach aches when I think about the political consequences if a tragedy like this would happen here... So my respect as well as my deeply felt condolences go to the Norwegian public, who defend their democracy and who did not storm onto the streets and beat down the next guy who looks like a terrorist - however one may look like. Glad to have you as our 2-doors away neighbor - stay as you are! :salute: @Spoon 11th: I would find it more appropriate to the victims, if you refrain from posting propaganda from the lunatic here, a link to the picture would be sufficient. If someone is interested in the guy's mindset, the wiki article about him has enough links to reading material. Cheers & thanks! |
I couldn't find a subtitled version of his speech, but here is one with a running translation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRy-mOMqS_w This is what Norway is all about. Beautiful. |
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There's a certain hilarious irony in that the original reaction from so many was so anti-immigrant and anti-Islamic, to the nature of "this is what happens when we let that kind of people into our countries!"... and then it turned out the perp was a right-wing, anti-immigrant islamophobe.
The delete buttons ran hot on certain peoples' computers on that day:03:. |
Well, it wasn't a Buddhist.
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Not this time, no. But you just know it won't be long before they pull something again, the scheming *******s.
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If I understand correctly, childkillers don't last long in general population -- at least here in the States. I guess we could cross our fingers and hope he doesn't get segregated out 'for his own safety'. :hmmm: |
http://kotaku.com/5824147/oslo-terro...craft-as-cover
Great, here comes the Anti-Gaming crusade. :shifty: (Though Modern Warfare 2? Seriously? That game is terrible, how can you even use it as simulation?) |
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