Currently there are 25 USN attack subs at sea. Where they are is anyone's guess.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3141/610xsi.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6842/534543j.jpg
Somewhere there?

EDIT: Can't see any subs though...

Meanwhile in Seoul:

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/f77ae6fa.jpg

"Damn it guys! How many time do I have to say it: Stop playing Harpoon in the CVIC!"

That is the whole reason we spend 3 billion USD on them...

Actually interesting images now that I look at them Obie.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6931/csg73.jpg
Little short of the 200 km range reported on the HY-2, but in the reported range of the Turbojet HY-4 SSM (300 to 500 km)... :hmmm:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7...lkwormsite.jpg
Silkworm site my friends and I found in detail
http://img222.imageshack.us/i/silkwormsite.jpg

This is interesting if it's true.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/8...th-korea-leak/
Come to think of it ,it could make things worse there - North Korea does listen to China sometimes ,but if they think that China's ready to dump them, then they might start thinking "why should we listen to them" and just go ahead with whatever they want....

I think it's safe to assume SSN23 is still in town as well as at least one 688/774 attached to CSG-73. That's the floor.


TLAM, how does your mapmaker know where CSG-73 is in the Yellow Sea? Do you know if they've stayed outside the EEZ?

I tasked a RORSAT to find her...

Come on, it'll be interesting to know if they crossed that line because the Chinese have more or less given us that option to save face for both sides.

I read that too. Interesting stuff. But NK doesn't have a lot of options here. If they loose Chinas backing, they're sunk.

She is in the South Korean EEZ. Whether or not she crossed the line at any point I don't know.

Look closely at the photo Oberon Posted.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7272/610xsiedit.jpg

BTW I think the USS Houston SSN 713 is in the area. She pulled in to Chinhae on the 23. One of the Ohios surfaced in Korea late last month plus one in Guam. Plus I bet the ROKN has a one or two of those smart little AIP boats of theirs out and about, maybe a JMSDF sub out their too.

Good point. Now that I think about it, the EEZ olive branch is probably a red herring anyways. The ROK/DPRK would get to claim up to the halfway point as its own EEZ. We didn't need to cross that line after the Cheonan and we don't now either... and the presence of a carrier east of that line isn't any less threatening to Beijing.

Thought you'd like it TLAM :03: Good find on the Silkworms and HY-4s. With the CSG (I always want to write CVBG still :wah:) close to the ROK coast down there, I imagine that most ROK radars would pick it up and be able to issue a raid warning to the CSG enabling them to switch on all their CIWS gear long in advance, as well as have a clear indication of the direction of the threat...in fact they could probably turn the group to face the incoming missile to reduce RCS.

The DPRK would have to be more crazy than it is to try and attack the CSG, particularly at that range. If they were up by Incheon, that sort of parallel, then yes, I'd say there was a risk, but down there...not so much of a risk.
Still going to annoy China but judging from the latest wikileaks, China is annoyed enough at the DPRK already, they just hide it well.

Heck where the CSG is the Patriot batteries east of Jeonju might even thrash any incoming vampires. They would easly pass in to the Range of the Nike battery near Anmyeon-do but I don't know if the old Nike could engage even a high flying cruise missile like the HY-4.

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/62800635.jpg

Current location.

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/1da9707e.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11887236