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August 12-03-09 09:33 PM

Are these Moonfishes good eatin'? :D

SteamWake 12-03-09 10:16 PM

are moonfish related to moonbats?

Hey speakin of moonbats.. :haha:

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A map of how California will be affected by climate change in the future was unveiled yesterday by state governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The map, which demonstrates the devastating effects of global warming in just a century, shows how San Francisco Airport would be completely underwater if sea levels were to rise by 150cm (60in).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...co-future.html

antikristuseke 12-04-09 04:51 AM

Dun dun dunnnnnnn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg

Skybird 12-04-09 06:46 AM

Nice find, antikristuseke.

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"I've instinctively known this from the get go 20 years ago! The whole thing is made up..!!! And the reason I know it is that liberals (!!!) are behind it."
Huuhahahaha - frightening, horrifying, evil, creepy - liberals...! God save my family from ever meeting one of them alone in the dark!

:har:

What a braindead super-idiot! Compared to the lack of light in his mind, a stellar black hole is a bright shining place.

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investigate what has been written - and what it actually means."
Good advise that could not be repeated often enough.

AVGWarhawk 12-04-09 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1213341)
Could be, I was just translating from the German name, "Mondfisch".

Well, whatever the case the fish is not supposed to be there! Attributed to global warming? I can not say for sure. Whales and dolphins beach themselves. Sometimes in places they do not belong. Some say the echo location/bearing mechanism distorts their sense of direction. Another phenominon yet to be explained fully from what I understand.

August 12-04-09 08:47 AM

I'm still waiting to find out how they taste! :arrgh!:

Skybird 12-04-09 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1213469)
Well, whatever the case the fish is not supposed to be there! Attributed to global warming? I can not say for sure. Whales and dolphins beach themselves. Sometimes in places they do not belong. Some say the echo location/bearing mechanism distorts their sense of direction. Another phenominon yet to be explained fully from what I understand.

If it were a sunfish belonging to a species living in the Atlantic, it could have been that the pair trapped itself when travelling into the Skagerrak and Kattegat. We have seen rare events of other big fishes and wahles not belonging to the Baltic. But if the sunfishes belonged indeed, as they claim, to a species living in tropical waters only, then this means "warm" waters, and then you have top explain why they swam thousands of kilomters through waters that were "too cold" for them.

The stranding of whales and dolphins does not compare to this, it usually is not attributed to warming temperatures in the ocean, but due to underwater sound pollution, shallow beaches, virusses, and the leading animal having become insane and the others following their leader, the thepries are many with sound pollution being the most prominent one. We do not know for sure, but the indications for sound pollution seem to be the strongest by far. That means not only sonar, but for the most it means propellers and engines. Sonar seem to be a problem not in polluting the envrinonment constantly, but by hurting and doing physical damage to the animals' brain, sonar apparatus, and other tissues.

SteamWake 12-04-09 09:20 AM

Dunn dun dun...

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Originally Posted by The Washington Times
The fight over global warming science is about to cross the Atlantic with a U.S. researcher poised to sue NASA, demanding release of the same kind of climate data that has landed a leading British center in hot water over charges it skewed its data.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-climate-data/

AVGWarhawk 12-04-09 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1213483)
If it were a sunfish belonging to a species living in the Atlantic, it could have been that the pair trapped itself when travelling into the Skagerrak and Kattegat. We have seen rare events of other big fishes and wahles not belonging to the Baltic. But if the sunfishes belonged indeed, as they claim, to a species living in tropical waters only, then this means "warm" waters, and then you have top explain why they swam thousands of kilomters through waters that were "too cold" for them.

The stranding of whales and dolphins does not compare to this, it usually is not attributed to warming temperatures in the ocean, but due to underwater sound pollution, shallow beaches, virusses, and the leading animal having become insane and the others following their leader, the thepries are many with sound pollution being the most prominent one. We do not know for sure, but the indications for sound pollution seem to be the strongest by far. That means not only sonar, but for the most it means propellers and engines. Sonar seem to be a problem not in polluting the envrinonment constantly, but by hurting and doing physical damage to the animals' brain, sonar apparatus, and other tissues.


Well, it does make for interesting conversation. Just on my own shores the pelican has been showing up. As a kid I would summer in Ocean City Maryland. Never remember seeing pelicans. Last few years the pelican has been seen by me. The pelican normally does not fly up this far from the southern east coast regions where it stays warm year around. In fact, the first wild pelican I witnessed I was in Clear Water FL back in 1978. Of course I was a kid back then and probably did not take much notice of this bird but it seems to me the pelican is migrating north.

http://www.worldbirdingcenter.org/bi...pelican390.jpg

Onkel Neal 12-04-09 10:16 AM

Haha, the weather guys were right. We now have snow in Gulf Coast Texas, in very early December. :haha: Third time in 5 years.

Believe whatever they tells ya, that's fine, but you need to call it something else, "global warming" is dead.

AVGWarhawk 12-04-09 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1213533)
Haha, the weather guys were right. We now have snow in Gulf Coast Texas, in very early December. :haha: Third time in 5 years.

Believe whatever they tells ya, that's fine, but you need to call it something else, "global warming" is dead.

Climate change is catch word of the day.

antikristuseke 12-04-09 10:29 AM

And it is +5 C in Estonia in early December. Looking at one area and making claims about global climate is a bit dim.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1213543)
Climate change is catch word of the day.

Well it better describes what is going on, but most issues like this get striped down to catchprases that do not actually represent the problem at hand.

SteamWake 12-04-09 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1213527)
Well, it does make for interesting conversation. Just on my own shores the pelican has been showing up. As a kid I would summer in Ocean City Maryland. Never remember seeing pelicans. Last few years the pelican has been seen by me. The pelican normally does not fly up this far from the southern east coast regions where it stays warm year around. In fact, the first wild pelican I witnessed I was in Clear Water FL back in 1978. Of course I was a kid back then and probably did not take much notice of this bird but it seems to me the pelican is migrating north.

http://www.worldbirdingcenter.org/bi...pelican390.jpg

Ive seen pelicans as far north as Maine many years ago.

AVGWarhawk 12-04-09 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1213545)
And it is +5 C in Estonia in early December. Looking at one area and making claims about global climate is a bit dim.

Point is, stop call it global warming. Is it really warming or cooling? Are we just experiencing climate change and nothing more? I'm thinking the scientific community is befuddled. BTW seems you are just looking at +5 in Estonia.

AVGWarhawk 12-04-09 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1213546)
Ive seen pelicans as far north as Maine many years ago.

Is that odd to you? As a kid I do not remember seeing them off the coast of MD. The past few years I have. Now when I mean kid that was over 25 years ago or more.


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