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Philipp_Thomsen 03-19-08 12:54 PM
Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

Jimbuna 03-19-08 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?
There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather :nope:

KeldorKatarn 03-19-08 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?
There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather :nope:
Agreed. I usually run on 1024, sometimes 512, and I've seen weather changes all over. I have a 3 page KTB full of weather changes (sadly only one sinking though :P)

Philipp_Thomsen 03-19-08 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?
There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather :nope:
And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?

Jimbuna 03-19-08 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?
There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather :nope:
And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?
Hmm....a logical conclusion http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/181...kbigsw1yo4.gif


http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img91/817/ideaps5.gif
Righteo.....I'll fight you over who is right......electrics or steamers. You choose http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img134/9742/angry8se2.gif

Philipp_Thomsen 03-19-08 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?
There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather :nope:
And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?
Hmm....a logical conclusion http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/181...kbigsw1yo4.gif


http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img91/817/ideaps5.gif
Righteo.....I'll fight you over who is right......electrics or steamers. You choose http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img134/9742/angry8se2.gif
Are you telling me that you are absolutely 100% sure that there's not a tyne little chance of weather changes and time compression be related?

Jimbuna 03-19-08 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
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Originally Posted by jimbuna
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?
There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather :nope:
And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?
Hmm....a logical conclusion http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/181...kbigsw1yo4.gif


http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img91/817/ideaps5.gif
Righteo.....I'll fight you over who is right......electrics or steamers. You choose http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img134/9742/angry8se2.gif
Are you telling me that you are absolutely 100% sure that there's not a tyne little chance of weather changes and time compression be related?
Not 100%....but quietly confident http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

Madox58 03-19-08 04:39 PM
Seems to me that 2 hours wasted debateing the question
could have been solved by 2 hours of testing?
;)
But that's just my thought.
:lol:

Philipp_Thomsen 03-19-08 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by privateer
Seems to me that 2 hours wasted debateing the question
could have been solved by 2 hours of testing?
;)
But that's just my thought.
:lol:
More then 2 hours... I've playing for 2 years the game (or more) and everytime I cross the atlantic in 1024x, the weather is the same as I was before going into time compression. All the weather changes I've ever experienced was under 1024x TC. That is actually one of the reasons that I use high time compression. I hate those endless storms.

But again, I could be wrong.

Subtype Zero 03-19-08 10:57 PM
Q: Does high TC affect weather changes?

:hmm: Speaking as someone who imagines himself as somewhat as an authority on this issue, I believe the answer to this question is a qualified no, with one BIG exception. During testing of the RWF, I recall observing that at high TC (512 and above), all weather factors still change, with the exception of windspeed! So, while you may get changes in clouds, fog, and precipitation, the wind tends to stay the same.

The rule seems to be that if you are at high TC when the weather undergoes a scripted change, everything changes except the windpseed. To cure this, you have to be at a TC of 256 or below when the weather changes.

Please note that this applies approximately 75% of the time (rough estimation). Also, I have seen the windspeed change at a TC of 512, but only rarely.

Hope this answers the question...or not! ;)

Philipp_Thomsen 03-19-08 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Subtype Zero
Q: Does high TC affect weather changes?

:hmm: Speaking as someone who imagines himself as somewhat as an authority on this issue, I believe the answer to this question is a qualified no, with one BIG exception. During testing of the RWF, I recall observing that at high TC (512 and above), all weather factors still change, with the exception of windspeed! So, while you may get changes in clouds, fog, and precipitation, the wind tends to stay the same.

The rule seems to be that if you are at high TC when the weather undergoes a scripted change, everything changes except the windpseed. To cure this, you have to be at a TC of 256 or below when the weather changes.

Please note that this applies approximately 75% of the time (rough estimation). Also, I have seen the windspeed change at a TC of 512, but only rarely.

Hope this answers the question...or not! ;)
It answers, coz Im always at 512x or more, and without strong winds theres no storm! :up:

MarkShot 03-20-08 08:25 AM
Would it be possible to disable weather changes entirely and simply have weather set and randomized by something like SH3 Commander?

I tend to think that perhaps that would the best solution, since the game engine appears to be quite broken when it comes to weather. Simply remove the weather management entirely from the game engine and make it external.

Thoughts?

Jimbuna 03-20-08 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Subtype Zero
Q: Does high TC affect weather changes?

:hmm: Speaking as someone who imagines himself as somewhat as an authority on this issue, I believe the answer to this question is a qualified no, with one BIG exception. During testing of the RWF, I recall observing that at high TC (512 and above), all weather factors still change, with the exception of windspeed! So, while you may get changes in clouds, fog, and precipitation, the wind tends to stay the same.

The rule seems to be that if you are at high TC when the weather undergoes a scripted change, everything changes except the windpseed. To cure this, you have to be at a TC of 256 or below when the weather changes.

Please note that this applies approximately 75% of the time (rough estimation). Also, I have seen the windspeed change at a TC of 512, but only rarely.

Hope this answers the question...or not! ;)
It answers, coz Im always at 512x or more, and without strong winds theres no storm! :up:
Told ya so http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6...olftailwk1.gif









;)

KeldorKatarn 03-20-08 11:09 AM
I still don't believe this. I always run at 1024 and I've had all sorts of radical weather changes including wind speed going from 4 up to 15, then 13, then 14, then 10, then 7, all within one week.

I really don't think this is related at all.

Capt.Crackerjack 07-23-08 10:10 AM
So, This RWF Mod Is In GWX 2.1? Plus: SH3Weather?
 
After slogging through this entire thread, it seems that the following is true:

1) This RealWeatherFix mod is now included in GWX2.1?

2) The SH3Weather* program can be run over/within GWX2.1?

*Reasoning behind point 2 is that while RFW basically limits long term storm time periods, SH3Weather actually provides more gradual (realistic) weather changes.

Will someone please confirm the above points?


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