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AVGWarhawk 03-14-14 09:08 AM

Snake in the grass comes to mind.

Flamebatter90 03-14-14 09:41 AM

It is becoming harder to find the possible wreck as days pass by.

Good comparison would be the Titanic. When Carpathia reached the scene 4-6 hours after she sunk, they found little wreckage. The current carried it all over.

Admiral Halsey 03-14-14 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamebatter90 (Post 2185816)
It is becoming harder to find the possible wreck as days pass by.

Good comparison would be the Titanic. When Carpathia reached the scene 4-6 hours after she sunk, they found little wreckage. The current carried it all over.

There wasn't really that much wreckage from the Titanic to begin with though. Most of the stuff would be trapped inside her hull as she went down with it being impossible for it to float out of it.

Herr-Berbunch 03-14-14 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX (Post 2185686)
Wouldn't the passengers have been calling people while this was going on?



If it was my plan, I'd pull the circuit breaker (or modern equiv.?) for the emergency mask deployment and decrease cabin pressure.

Incidently, today is the cut-off date for Boeing 737s (100 to 500) on the FAA register to have a couple of extra lights put in the cockpit to distinguish between T/O config and low pressurisation warnings that confused the Helios crew.

GoldenRivet 03-14-14 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2185847)
[/INDENT]If it was my plan, I'd pull the circuit breaker (or modern equiv.?) for the emergency mask deployment and decrease cabin pressure.

This^

one switch or valve operated in the cockpit would do it.

Then you could adjust the cabin altitude or hit the pressurization dump switch and bam... everyone just goes to sleep and on a long enough time line, dies.

This could give you enough time to take a trash bag person to person and collect cell phones if you were so inclined.

Aktungbby 03-14-14 11:58 AM

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signal from the plane's transponder.
That device is situated between the pilots and can be disabled with a twist of the wrist. For a pilot to turn it off would seem reckless because the information it transmits gives the plane vital protection, Weiss said.
And the apparent lack of visibility on radar? "Airline pilots are not trained for radar avoidance," said aviation expert Keith Wolzinger, a former 777 pilot. They like to stay on the radar, because -- again -- it protects their plane.
My worst case scenario is that Zaharie Ahmed Shah, the pilot or Fariq Ab Hamid, the first officer "put his faith in God" as with Egypt Air's first officer a few years back and commandeered his own aircraft during the toilet break of the other officer in a copycat takeover, flown for hours, out over the Indian Ocean then ditched with all aboard. I'm not seeing how the phones would be collected in a depressure situation by any of the cockpit crew. I know the cockpit has it's own separate oxygen supply from the cabin overhead deploy masks. Further investigation of the cockpit crew would be useful perhaps...:hmmm: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/16/duncancampbell

Flamebatter90 03-14-14 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2185838)
There wasn't really that much wreckage from the Titanic to begin with though. Most of the stuff would be trapped inside her hull as she went down with it being impossible for it to float out of it.

Titanic had a ton of chairs, tables, cushions etc. "on top", life belts and so on.

It all scattered around quickly.

Jimbuna 03-14-14 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2185807)
Snake in the grass comes to mind.

Snakes on a plane :hmmm:

Well just about every other conceivable theory has been aired.

Admiral Halsey 03-14-14 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamebatter90 (Post 2185887)
Titanic had a ton of chairs, tables, cushions etc. "on top", life belts and so on.

It all scattered around quickly.

It also became waterlogged very quickly and sank. Plus the vast majority of the stuff was in her hull.

krashkart 03-14-14 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2185897)
Well just about every other conceivable theory has been aired.

Nobody has yet mentioned the possibility of the chemtrail generators exploding. That has been known to happen--more frequently than you might imagine--but the government tends to be very concerned about covering that stuff up. Everybody is *paid well to keep quiet, and we never hear even the slightest suspicious hint that anything tragic happened. :03:

* Do you really think we lost all those billions of dollars to contractors in OIF/OEF? Nope. Seriously. You have no idea just how tremendous the black budget is these days. :cool:

Flamebatter90 03-14-14 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2185907)
It also became waterlogged very quickly and sank. Plus the vast majority of the stuff was in her hull.

It took about 2hrs for the ship to sink. And yes, I am talking about the stuff that would float: life preservers, tables, chairs, bodies etc.

At least one was seen by the Captain of Carpathia if I remember correctly.

Dread Knot 03-14-14 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 2185914)
Nobody has yet mentioned the possibility of the chemtrail generators exploding. That has been known to happen--more frequently than you might imagine--but the government tends to be very concerned about covering that stuff up. Everybody is *paid well to keep quiet, and we never hear even the slightest suspicious hint that anything tragic happened. :03:

A few bat-crazies today are actually suggesting that it's a huge publicity stunt for an upcoming remake of LOST. Somehow I find that crazier than alien time slips.

At least no one's mentioned Cthulhu yet. Aircraft meet Lovecraft.

krashkart 03-14-14 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2185956)
A few bat-crazies today are actually suggesting that it's a huge publicity stunt for an upcoming remake of LOST. Somehow I find that crazier than alien time slips.

At least no one's mentioned Cthulhu yet. Aircraft meet Lovecraft.


You know, I'm not at all surprised by that. :)

STEED 03-14-14 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2185897)
Snakes on a plane :hmmm:

Well just about every other conceivable theory has been aired.

Alien abduction I heard today....Moving on back in the real world.

Madox58 03-14-14 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2185969)
Alien abduction I heard today....Moving on back in the real world.

HEY!! Back off Mate! I own the Alien Influence theories!
:stare:

"Aliens placed a tractor beam on the Aircraft"

:haha:

mapuc 03-14-14 03:37 PM

I believe this 20 year old student have the solution to this vanishing airliner.

Have been in Danish and Swedish newspaper.

Markus

Jimbuna 03-14-14 03:40 PM

No link.

Madox58 03-14-14 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2186002)
I believe this 20 year old student have the solution to this vanishing airliner.

Have been in Danish and Swedish newspaper.

Markus

No Soup for you!

Admiral Halsey 03-14-14 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2186002)
I believe this 20 year old student have the solution to this vanishing airliner.

Have been in Danish and Swedish newspaper.

Markus

You got a link for that theory mate?

mapuc 03-14-14 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2186005)
No link.


Here's the story.

In his theory, some part of the airliner, fell of, This made the air inside of the plane, vanished(decompression I think it is called) due to this, the passenger and the crew passed out, but the autopilot kept the plane flying.

Markus


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