Here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrZMBbT5R0g

Apparently people in Australia are unworthy of the ability to view that video. Mind you the comments are telling.

If it's the Zapruder film I've seen it several thousand times at various speeds and magnifications. The film clearly shows forward movement of JFKs head and only AFTER his brain blows out of the right side of his skull does his head rock backwards. The spray from the right side of his head is seen in frame 312 2 frames after his head rocks forward, but its not until frame 315 that it rocks backwards. That's around 1/3 of a second (16fps film speed). In bullet time that's enough time for the bullet travelling at over 1500 feet per second to travel 500 feet! The muzzle velocity of the Mannlicher Carcano is 2000-2400 feet per second and 2800 feet per second for the AR15.

Check what I posted here if you're unsure about the physics http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show....php?p=2144412

If someone can show me hard evidence to the contrary then I'm willing to change my position on this but having been looking at JFKs assassination in some detail since I was about 12 when I caught the bug, you need to show me something more convincing than the scrappy supposition that's been thrown up so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmCEx-f0dfI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urb1s0iXoiI

Priceless:

"Now I see! The pixels did all of the shooting!"

:)

I understand BubbleHead's frustration in providing "hard evidence" of a conspiracy. People have been trying to do that for 50 years.

But I would offer what the Warren Commission wants us to believe in the lone gunman's theory is almost as hard to believe.

Ask any trained sniper firing in a multiple shot scenario and they will tell you that the first shot should be the most accurate. With that in mind, the following sequence of shots makes "Oswald the lone gunman theory" very difficult to support. And keep in mind the 2nd and 3rd shots were rushed and came from a cheap Mannlicher Carcano rifle with a misaligned scope.

Shot 1 - Misses the presidential limousine.
The best shot...and he misses the entire limousine. Interesting.

Shot 2 - Hits Kennedy in the back and exits through the neck.
Oswald makes a tremendous improvement with an obvious rush of adrenaline and the rush from cycling the rifle.

Shot 3 - Hits Kennedy perfectly in the back of the head.
This may be the greatest improvement in shooting of all-time. Oswald went from missing the entire car with a shot that should be his best, to a direct hit, all while in a rush to cycle the rifle and re-sight the target.

Is it possible? Yes
Is it probable? No

I could easier believe the third shot was another shooter's first shot from another location, possibly also behind the limousine.

Oswald wasn't a trained Sniper.
There's a BIG difference between 'MarksMan' and 'Sniper' qualified.

Alright, put your monies where their mouth is, shoot JFK yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK:_Reloaded

Once you cleared the pixels away with updated pixel removing software, you could clearly see a shooter.....I saw him....

:hmmm:
Wonder if it can still be bought?

A few things with that. First a missed first shot can be easily explained by initial misjudgement in windage or target velocity, second cheap or not a bolt action is the most accurate class of firearm, third Oswald was a trained marksman who had time to tune up and more importantly practice with his weapon and finally sights aren't misaligned; they are zeroed to a particular shooter so what might appear misaligned to you is perfect for someone else. There is also the possibility that the sights were bumped out of alignment after the shooting when he hid the rifle under boxes filled with God knows what.

Right. It's also possible the first shot was a trigger jerk or failure to control the breathing due to the excitement.
That's a very common cause of missed 1st shots by MarksMen.

Yea, but to think he could improve on that in a few seconds...it works the other way around.

"A Moving Target and a Poor Rifle
Although the distance from Oswald’s supposed location to JFK’s car was never more than about 90 yards (82 metres) during the shooting, several factors increased the difficulty of the act:

the presidential limousine was moving away from the gunman’s location;
the car was obscured for some of the time by an oak tree;
all the shots had to have been fired within a very short space of time;
and, most importantly, the only rifle that could have been used was awkward and unpredictable.

Simulating the JFK Assassination
For the benefit of the Warren Commission, expert riflemen from the US Army and the FBI attempted to duplicate the assassin’s task, using the rifle that had been discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Even after fixing some of the gun’s mechanical problems, and despite firing at stationary targets from an easier vantage point, they failed to achieve the combination of accuracy and speed demanded of the lone gunman: two hits out of three, within about six seconds (see Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.446 and pp.403–10)."

http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-har...n-sharpshooter

Here's a question: How do they know for sure which shot missed?

No it doesn't.
Even the lowest grade of MarksMan can see that mistake and adjust quickly.
Oswald tested to the bottom of Sharpshooter at one time.
He never tested to Expert but at the range the shots were fired?
A SharpShooter could make them easily if he is commited to the kill.

As I quoted

"expert riflemen from the US Army and the FBI attempted to duplicate the assassin’s task, using the rifle that had been discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Even after fixing some of the gun’s mechanical problems, and despite firing at stationary targets from an easier vantage point, they failed to achieve the combination of accuracy and speed demanded of the lone gunman: two hits out of three, within about six seconds (see Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.446 and pp.403–10)."

Not to mention, those test are basic skill test, he was simply a decent shot and he was using a precise military rifle, not a piece of junk.

No low grade marksmen could adjust, that's just silly, they're several factors you have to determine in seconds if you miss and he had no spotter. IMO it would take a skilled sniper to make that shot on a moving target with a good rifle. Just bolting the next shot you're gonna come off target..

Are you a trained Sniper?

It's free to download AFAIK, and there's a patch that fixes some of the more bizarre physics, although if you deliberately set out to break the game it will react in an...interesting...fashion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOSFafsloes

Never played it myself, apparently the patch puts in a couple of different firing positions too, including the infamous 'grassy knoll'.

:haha:

I'll need to find this just to play with it!
Looks crazy as all heck!!

Agree again.
I have an Air Rifle that I can hit a beer bottle with at 100 yards on the second shot.

No one has been able to hit the bottle with the same rifle given 10 shots!
They might get it after 11 or so but never under 10!

It's setup for me and my quirks.