I am right, and its better to smell like poop than to be a kangarooh eater. :arrgh!:

Then please enlighten me how Alien3 was either crap or "unnecessary" (an arguably useless term when speaking art).

To me it sounds like band-wagon talk, at least when people don't deliver any example.
They heard how bad the movie is so they just accept this apparently common point of view...
However, alien 3 is far from being a bad movie. It picked up where aliens left off and ended ripley's arc in a plausible and dramatic - yet not cheesy way.
But somehow it's crap...

I'd be uttering alternate facts, if I said I liked Alien 3 the couple of first times I saw it, but over the years it has been climbing up my top Alien films list and is now comfortably sitting on the same couch with ALIEN... with maybe a small book under it. (The A3 creature design has already surpassed that of the original in my mind)

I might sound a bit "elitist", but I think not many who have seen Alien 3 once or twice really understand what Fincher was going for with it. Alien 3 is about Ripley's fall after her rise in ALIEN and her peak in ALIENS.
No matter how hard she fights, she cannot win, and she comes to terms with this as she finds out about the Queen growing inside of her. She simply gives up at this point, trying to get herself killed twice (by the alien and by Dillon),
and only continues to fight the alien because of Dillon's promise to kill her after the beast is dealt with.

I very much prefer Alien 3 as the ending for Ripley's story arc over the "happily ever after" ending of ALIENS.

But that's just me.

PS. Skybird, I might drink Foster's every now and then, but I don't eat Kangaroos. :o

You don't remember what you have eaten and whom you slept with, if you drank sufficient Fosters. You have not eaten your Kangaroo? That leaves just one other option then.

:O:

Roo is delicious btw!

Some of The Frau's relatives who are living in Australia came to visit. They told me that Fosters is Australian for S... uh, it is undesirable. :D

Yes, Foster's is just about an export only beer in the eyes of Aussies but tbh, I drink a lot of it....the price is usually acceptable :03:

Having watched A1-A4, I don't know if a 5th will do it for me. For me, it comes down to the effect Alien had when it came out only 2 years after Star Wars. More that than the cinematic quality of the later movies.

When Star Wars came out, the world went crazy with 2-dimensional fantasies filled with sheer awesomeness, awesome space ships, awesome droids, awesome light sabres making awesome sounds, with well defined everything, the heros were always heros and the baddies were always bad. It was all clean, tidy, safe and well sorted out like any Snow White or Cinderella.

Then came Alien and tore up the fantasies we had, shredded them to bloody bits. Alien was terrifying. No lasers here to help you, no force, just a mean spirited mother of all monsters out and about for nobody knew what reason. Space was a horrible place to be.

That effect only works the first time. 5 times is right out.

The movies after the first, they are alright. Not bad, not great, they're alright but they can never achieve the same importance as the first one. Would I watch a 5th? Yeah probably.

Now for Fosters. I reckon they are Australia's way of getting even with the country that sent the doomed across the globe to get rid of them. It was for me rather disappointing to visit England/Wales only to find that the fabled British ales were nowhere to be found in any pub. Only Fosters, Stella and Guinness, might find a Newcastle Brown if the place fancied to call itself traditional but that was it. Then again, why would I want lukewarm decarbonated ale? :O: