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Snestorm 05-25-10 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kissaki (Post 1402917)
There's a difference between two populations blending over the generation through breeding, and ethnic cleansing. If the future Europeans are mostly or completely white, black, brown, red, yellow or purple, what difference does it make? They'd still be Europeans.

I admit there is something "safe" and "homely" about seeing mostly white faces in my home town, but does it really matter?

Ethnic Cleansing is Ethnic Cleansing. Whether it be by murder or cross breeding, the result is the same.

Does the ethnicity of the population matter? Yes!

Personaly, I like seeing the pretty danish faces of girls (all scandinavian girls).
I like to see other people with blonde, as opposed to "blonde" (bleached) hair.
I like seeing other people with light colored eyes.

The idé of any of that becoming extinct makes a great deal of difference to me.
(Once we're gone, we can never come back. This social experiment has permanent results.)

Snestorm 05-25-10 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times (Post 1403213)
Luckily times are closing when we dont need twenty pages discussions to establish that European people have a right to their culture.:yeah:

These immigrant crimes are often defended in Finland by saying that different cultures cause clashes.
Easy solution for that, dont mix cultures.:yeah:

We stand again united, sir.

DF

DarkFish 05-25-10 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1403239)
Ethnic Cleansing is Ethnic Cleansing. Whether it be by murder or cross breeding, the result is the same.

Does the ethnicity of the population matter? Yes!

Personaly, I like seeing the pretty danish faces of girls (all scandinavian girls).
I like to see other people with blonde, as opposed to "blonde" (bleached) hair.
I like seeing other people with light colored eyes.

The idé of any of that becoming extinct makes a great deal of difference to me.
(Once we're gone, we can never come back. This social experiment has permanent results.)

Hmm, this too yeah. I wouldn't like too many immigrants mix in with the Dutch.
I like Dutch girls with their light brown hair and blue eyes:)

But you won't hear me say that black or yellow or red or purple or green people can't be "Europeans" per se. Racially, maybe not. But culturally, definitely so.

Kissaki 05-25-10 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1403239)
Ethnic Cleansing is Ethnic Cleansing. Whether it be by murder or cross breeding, the result is the same.

No, it is not the same. Nor is the result the same. Ethnic cleansing is the willful destruction of an ethnicity either by sterilization and/or murder. The purpose is to prevent further breeding.

When an ethnicity disappears because it has been absorbed into another, more dominant ethnicity, it is nothing similar to ethnic cleansing by any means. In this case your seed lives on - with ethnic cleansing it doesn't. Have you ever heard of anyone saying, "that race must be eliminated, so let's have kids with them"? The very notion is absurd on the best of days.


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Does the ethnicity of the population matter? Yes!
Because...?


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Personaly, I like seeing the pretty danish faces of girls (all scandinavian girls).
I like to see other people with blonde, as opposed to "blonde" (bleached) hair.
I like seeing other people with light colored eyes.

The idé of any of that becoming extinct makes a great deal of difference to me.
(Once we're gone, we can never come back. This social experiment has permanent results.)
I like diversity, too. But it is sheer romanticism, and why should your romantic ideals decide anything for tomorrow's generation, when you are dead and gone? In practical terms the world would actually be served by having all ethnicities blend into one, because then there would be no more racism. I would lament the disappearance of variation, but does it actually matter? Do we care about the lamentations of the previous generations?

Kissaki 05-25-10 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times (Post 1403213)
Luckily times are closing when we dont need twenty pages discussions to establish that European people have a right to their culture.:yeah:

Im starting to read with anticipation stories like the one today.

Two African males are wanted for the abduction of a 16 year old girl in Finland.
They snatched her during her school trip in a van.
Took her to the woods and left her tied to a log in a stream from waist down,
luckily someone found her in time.
The details are not public yet and the perpetrators are still at large.

Yeah, that's not anecdotal at all. :roll:


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These immigrant crimes are often defended in Finland by saying that different cultures cause clashes.
Easy solution for that, dont mix cultures.:yeah:
First of all, do you think what they did was culturally acceptable where they came from? :stare:

Second, how will you iron out differences between cultures if you don't mix them? Aren't cultural clashes evidence of lack of integration?

Snestorm 05-25-10 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kissaki (Post 1403335)
No, it is not the same. Nor is the result the same. Ethnic cleansing is the willful destruction of an ethnicity either by sterilization and/or murder. The purpose is to prevent further breeding.

When an ethnicity disappears because it has been absorbed into another, more dominant ethnicity, it is nothing similar to ethnic cleansing by any means. In this case your seed lives on - with ethnic cleansing it doesn't. Have you ever heard of anyone saying, "that race must be eliminated, so let's have kids with them"? The very notion is absurd on the best of days.

More dominant ethnicity?!?!
You're free to act submissive if you so choose, but I shan't.

And on: "that race must be eliminated, so let's have kids with them?"
The old way of saying that is:
"Kill the men, and rape the women."
Seems like some immigrants have already picked up on this very old idé.

Morts 05-26-10 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1403350)
Seems like some immigrants have already picked up on this very old idé.

wow...just...wow...

Tribesman 05-26-10 02:28 AM

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Ethnic Cleansing is Ethnic Cleansing.Whether it be by murder or cross breeding, the result is the same.
What a disturbing statement
Cross breeding??????
that sounds very like that lunatic 1930s ideology of racial purity.

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I like to see other people with blonde, as opposed to "blonde" (bleached) hair.
I like seeing other people with light colored eyes.
Very 1930s,:doh:
Is that you Adolf? Have you come back from the dead?
Can you get Heinrich to reintroduce Lebensborn to ensure plenty of blue eyed blonds for the preservation of the master race from extinction by the cross breeding horde?

Jankowski 05-26-10 06:49 AM

i would be more worried about a synagogue...........

Morts 05-26-10 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1403414)
What a disturbing statement
Cross breeding??????
that sounds very like that lunatic 1930s ideology of racial purity.


Very 1930s,:doh:
Is that you Adolf? Have you come back from the dead?
Can you get Heinrich to reintroduce Lebensborn to ensure plenty of blue eyed blonds for the preservation of the master race from extinction by the cross breeding horde?

he says DF at the end of one of his posts, and that probably means Dansk Folkeparti (danish peoples party)...they are pretty much closet neo-nazis...there is loving ones country, and then there is "loving" it DF style, the fanatic nationalist way

Nordmann 05-26-10 09:11 AM

Arrested for showing your nation's flag? Wow. I bet if it had been a mob of angry Muslims, waving placards and yelling violent slogans, the law would probably have been cheering them on!

Europe is definitely a sinking ship at the moment, it's certainly going to take a protest of monumental proportions to overturn such flagrant breaches of civil rights. Something which I cannot see apathetic Europeans doing any time soon.

Happy Times 05-26-10 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann (Post 1403601)
Arrested for showing your nation's flag? Wow. I bet if it had been a mob of angry Muslims, waving placards and yelling violent slogans, the law would probably have been cheering them on!

Europe is definitely a sinking ship at the moment, it's certainly going to take a protest of monumental proportions to overturn such flagrant breaches of civil rights. Something which I cannot see apathetic Europeans doing any time soon.

I can see it happening very soon.
Ive been warning of the coming uprising for years, its all on the heads of the current politicians.

Kissaki 05-26-10 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1403350)
More dominant ethnicity?!?!
You're free to act submissive if you so choose, but I shan't.

You misunderstand the word "dominant". It is not the same as the opposite of "submissive": a dominant segment is simply the segment of the population which is in majority. Has nothing to do with dominant/submissive.


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And on: "that race must be eliminated, so let's have kids with them?"
The old way of saying that is:
"Kill the men, and rape the women."
Seems like some immigrants have already picked up on this very old idé.
"Kill the men, rape the women" has absolutely nothing to do with ethnic cleansing. That's the old raiding mantra, and it's not like you intend to have anything more to do with the women you rape, much less the offspring. Are you being difficult on purpose?

Tribesman 05-26-10 12:06 PM

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Arrested for showing your nation's flag?
He wasn't arrested for showing his nations flag, he was arrested for continuing to cause a disturbance in a meeting after he was told to stop or leave. He was arrested for refusing to follow the instructions of the council clerk in a council meeting and then refusing to follow the instructions of the police who were called to the meeting.
Face it, going by his own words he was ranting about stuff that had absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed in the planning meeting.


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he says DF at the end of one of his posts, and that probably means Dansk Folkeparti (danish peoples party)...they are pretty much closet neo-nazis...there is loving ones country, and then there is "loving" it DF style, the fanatic nationalist way
I know, I have commented before on how his warped version of fanatical patriotism is one that most people realised was very sick and twisted after events of 70 years ago.
Though the old Dansk Front might be more in line than the Folkparti.

Nordmann 05-26-10 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1403763)
He wasn't arrested for showing his nations flag, he was arrested for continuing to cause a disturbance in a meeting after he was told to stop or leave. He was arrested for refusing to follow the instructions of the council clerk in a council meeting and then refusing to follow the instructions of the police who were called to the meeting.
Face it, going by his own words he was ranting about stuff that had absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed in the planning meeting.

Would that be the same manner of disturbance caused by mobs of protesting Muslims? I'd like to see some of them arrested... oh wait... that's right, they have freedom of speech, while the rest of us get a cold cell for the night.

Ah, equality, got to love it!

Tribesman 05-26-10 03:42 PM

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Would that be the same manner of disturbance caused by mobs of protesting Muslims?
No its in the manner of turning up at a council meeting, being deemed to be disturbing proceedings and then eventually getting arrested after choosing to ignore repeated warnings.

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I'd like to see some of them arrested... oh wait... that's right, they have freedom of speech, while the rest of us get a cold cell for the night.
It has nothing to do with freedom of speech and quite frankly you are talking complete nonsense.

Snestorm 05-26-10 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1403414)
What a disturbing statement
Cross breeding??????
that sounds very like that lunatic 1930s ideology of racial purity.


Very 1930s,:doh:
Is that you Adolf? Have you come back from the dead?
Can you get Heinrich to reintroduce Lebensborn to ensure plenty of blue eyed blonds for the preservation of the master race from extinction by the cross breeding horde?

Spoken like a true hippie.

Snestorm 05-26-10 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jankowski (Post 1403503)
i would be more worried about a synagogue...........

How is that?

Snestorm 05-26-10 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kissaki (Post 1403692)
Are you being difficult on purpose?

Actualy, no.
We just happen to disagree.

Snestorm 05-26-10 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1403942)
It has nothing to do with freedom of speech and quite frankly you are talking complete nonsense.

The word "nonsense", when translated from Tribesman to plain english means obviouse truth.


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