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Well, I'm off to make sure all of the contacts for the new ships are grey.

Cheers all.

Thanks for the use of your violin Ducimus! :arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by Potoroo

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It's already been explained to you why it's not going to meet your aims but is going to unnecessarily inconvenience some of your users. Since it's entirely possible for you to both meet your aims and satisfy all your users it can't be anything but bad PR.
I repeat: no-one is complaining about the need for it to be installed over clean 1.4b. No-one is complaining about the requirement for it to be installed intact. The only issue is where it gets installed. You have not provided the slightest reasonable justification to force it to only install over the default path.

OK, there appears to be a simple misunderstanding which I will now clarify for all.
The auto-installer DOES NOT automatically install into any path. Yuck. My professional peers would ostracise me. Actually, I would ostracise myself.

Thank you for this clarification. It seems we were indeed misinformed, hence the confusion. As one of your professional peers I approve.

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However, it will only CONTINUE the installation process if the path YOU HAVE SELECTED is verified as a clean, unmodded SH3 patched to v1.4b.

This accords with something I said right at the beginning: if the 1.4b verification process is truly effective then the path is irrelevant.

I'm pleased with everything you've said. The installation procedure you describe follows standard practices and meets the aim of simplifying the installation without unnecessarily inconveniencing some users at the expense of others. Furthermore, and here I confess to a selfish interest, it won't inconvenience or confuse users of MultiSH3 which means I don't expect to be bombarded with emails or PMs requesting assistance.

If I may be blunt - from one professional peer to another - I don't "approve" of your behaviour in this thread. Professionals tend not to continually crow about being professional like it is some way to vindicate their comments, lest they use it to trounce on others.

In my field such people tend to find themselves spending a lot of time working on "special projects".

If you wanted a "professional" conversation, you could have either a) simply waited for my return (BBW first commented on page 2 that I was out of town) where all things would have been put right instead of arguing for over four pages or b) PMed or emailed me direct.

As you chose to continue the argument in public with people that you dismissed as non-professionals, I cannot help but think that your motives were not professional at all.

Now, on a productive note...

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Originally Posted by Potoroo

One quick question: does the 1.4b verifier require the installation to be absolutely clean or does it ignore the presence of things like jsgme.exe or multish3.exe in the game's default folder? If you want to talk about this in detail via email then that's fine with me.

The installer will happily accept the presence of tools like JSGME, SH3Weather, MultiSH3 etc etc. Even if you released a new version of MultiSH3 the day of GWX release, the installer will be smart enough to recognise it. It will also recognise and accept changes to "inconsequential" game files like "FileManager.dll" or even "sh3.exe".

Its interest is solely in the files that make up the "game" of SH3, ie predominantly the files under the data folder. And even then it is intuitive enough to know whether a particular file change will affect the running of GWX or not.

Now, whilst I have no problem answering questions from users, I really do not feel the need to continue to justify my/Kpt's decision making on the installer simply for the sake of your gratification or indulgence. Please, move on to your next beef...

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Hes starting to sound like me when ive been hitting the bottle of Capt Morgan i keep atop my fridge :lol:

Hey! Good idea... I've got a dusty bottle of Jameson Irish Whiskey here...

One shot sounds good as I settle into my work. (No I am only going to have one shot. I have too much too do ... and I almost never drink anyway.)

Irish ? :nope:
What's wrong with Scotch !
If you don't throw that Irish 'stuff' overboard and get yourself a good malt, I'm not gonna download your new Mod so there ! [Smiley sucking a thumb icon here]

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Now, whilst I have no problem answering questions from users, I really do not feel the need to continue to justify my/Kpt's decision making on the installer simply for the sake of your gratification or indulgence. Please, move on to your next beef...

Since you weren't asked to I don't understand your issue.

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Hes starting to sound like me when ive been hitting the bottle of Capt Morgan i keep atop my fridge :lol:

Well my good man... Pass the Glenfiddich!! :arrgh!:

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In my field such people tend to find themselves spending a lot of time working on "special projects".

Nice reply, JS

People (usually directorial positions) that are in these "special project" positions - mainly in the public sector - we call them Kelvinator Managers, or "directors-in-the-fridge" :lol:

Oh, and forgot to say that, that was a view of a proffesional busines consultant, mainly for the public sector (if that makes any difference)

Von

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I love this man. He achieved more in a single post than we managed in... wow, 10 pages of bickering. I want to give JS a virtual hug! But we're guys so it's just gonna be a punch and grunt.;)

Here's to professionalism!:rotfl:

Excuse me for a second... I'm having a :p moment.

The aforementioned ultra-mature smiley is dedicated to all of the lovely people out there who DON'T love me.

We know you are watching. (waves hello) :p

We now continue with our regularly scheduled programming.

Neal asked me to let it go.

Kpt. Lehmann, can all this modding make one go nuts? :D :rotfl::up:

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Originally Posted by The Noob

Kpt. Lehmann, can all this modding make one go nuts? :D :rotfl::up:

Only if you weren't nuts to begin with. :arrgh!:

... but there are some people who come here having no nuts. Since they are nut-less they have nothing to worry about too.

I was already nuts.

In solumn and dignified response to your above mentioned "moment" Kp.t Lehmann...

I LOVE YOU!:lol::lol::lol:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Even when I was temporarily on the Pontoroo bandwagon back on page 2.

Cheers Mate.:up:

And for Christ's Sake have a bloody drink!

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Why thank you!!! ... and a jolly old punch and grunt to you too.

You sir... are not nutless!!! :up: :up: :up: (No I didn't check... I am happy to assume as much.)

Uh-Ohhhhh wait wait...

Wait for it... waaaaiitt for it...

AH!!! :p

There was another one!!! Another :p moment!!!

Did you see it?

Hmmmm... its gone now. What will we do.:roll:

(waves again)

I live in Vancouver on the West Coast and I'm pretty sure Texas is in my timezone. I think you're punch drunk on exhaustion Lehmann. ITS 5 AM! I NEED TO SLEEP!

Yet I keep typing.:hmm:

GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GIGGIDY GOO!

HEH! aaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllRIGHT!

Nah...

After 7 years in the Army and 4 years in EMS... I can stay awake a looooonnnng time. :|\\

I'd offer you some Whoppers... but I'm fresh out.

Making tunafish sandwiches at the moment... want one?

BEAM ME UP JESUS!

er... I mean yes.

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Making tunafish sandwiches at the moment... want one?

Got a spare one to lob across the Pond, Kapt????;)

Typing always makes me hungry!

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Making tunafish sandwiches at the moment... want one?

Got a spare one to lob across the Pond, Kapt????;)

Typing always makes me hungry!

Toss!!! Heads up... tomatoes and cheddar cheese on the way! :ping: