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Skybird 02-07-06 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov
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Originally Posted by Skybird
http://www.welt.de/data/2006/02/07/842447.html

Quote: "... ein Zwischenfall wie der Holocaust..." (... a (minor) incident like the Holocaust...)

Reminds me of an old episode of one of my favourite series, "Spenser": "Ich bin die Zahnfee, und wenn du nicht bald das Maul hälst, dann zaubere ich dir die Zähne weg!" :lol:

:damn: Something makes me think that I should have learn't German at school and not Japanese. :doh:

It is not elegant a translation, but it means something like this:
"I am the tooth-fairy, and if you don't shut up I make your teeth dissappear by my magic!" :lol:

Thought about learning Japanese myself in my youth. My teacher back then, a japanese, told me to stop having foolish ideas and concentrate on the blade instead. :lol:

Konovalov 02-07-06 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Thought about learning Japanese myself in my youth. My teacher back then, a japanese, told me to stop having foolish ideas and concentrate on the blade instead. :lol:

Please keep your Katana and Wakazashi to yourself mate. ;)

Skybird 02-07-06 11:44 AM

Suicide is not to my taste, so only a Katana over here - and that is locked in the bank. Only my bow I have at home. Not the most practical tool of self-defense while riding bus or subway :lol:

Sheppard 02-07-06 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by McBeck
Well im danish, and ....well...what can I say....
They just dont understand that the goverment CAN NOT tell a newspaper what to do :damn:

This is crucial to understanding the mindset of Mohammedians; to them Church AND State are one and the same, and indivisible; because Mohammed laid down HOW to govern in the Koran; which you cannot alter or change.

AG124 02-07-06 12:46 PM

Bush has declared support for Denmark now. :yep: Things may indeed be escalating (and yes, troops fired on protesters in Afghanistan and have killed at least two).

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...rt+for+Denmark

Type941 02-07-06 03:15 PM

Norways pulling the troops out of Afganistan now.

Man... What can I say. If those people on streets burning stuff had jobs, none of this would happen. It's amazing how bloody childish the world is.


It's a CARTOON! GET OVER IT.

Abraham 02-07-06 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Type941
Norways pulling the troops out of Afganistan now...

Is this true? I can't believe Norway giving such a stupid signal.
I heard on the news tonight that Norwegian troops in Afghanistan had some problems with fierce demonstrations around their compound and asked for air support from the Dutch. We sent 2 F-16's which first made a very low pass over the demonstrators and, being informed that some hard core demonstraters were still closing in on the Norwegian compound, then demonstrated to the crowd that a 20 mm Gatling gun can take you faster to heaven then an F-16 itself (but that there would not be much left of you to enjoy any virgins).
The demonstrators - being fully convinced by the 20 mm strafing - then decided to spread in a hurry.

Type XXIII 02-07-06 05:01 PM

I think we can establish that, on a deeper level, it's not about those cartoons. There exists a more or less general dislike of the West in Islamistic countries. These cartoons were simply a spark that has grown to a fire under nursing of some leaders, religious and political, who has brought it to the inflammable material of this dislike and people's general uncontentness in these areas.

Norway is making no sign of pulling out of Afghanistan. There were some rumors floating, after the attack on Nortwegian ISAF-forces, but Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg has said in a press conference that pulling out is not an option.

Making and printing those cartoons, was, in my opinion, wrong, but not illegal. Some of the reactions to it has been both wrong and illegal. Still, it is sad that this debate is run by extremists on both sides. From Norwegian media, I have gotten the impression that there does exist moderates in the countries that criticize and attack us. I believe this to be true.

To quote Norwegian politician Torbjørn Jagland. "Moderates of all countries, unite!"

Skybird 02-07-06 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheppard
...Mohammedians ...

Sssssshht, don'T you say that! That word is considered to be offending.

Skybird 02-07-06 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Type XXIII
I think we can establish that, on a deeper level, it's not about those cartoons. There exists a more or less general dislike of the West in Islamistic countries. These cartoons were simply a spark that has grown to a fire under nursing of some leaders, religious and political, who has brought it to the inflammable material of this dislike and people's general uncontentness in these areas.

Norway is making no sign of pulling out of Afghanistan. There were some rumors floating, after the attack on Nortwegian ISAF-forces, but Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg has said in a press conference that pulling out is not an option.

Making and printing those cartoons, was, in my opinion, wrong, but not illegal. Some of the reactions to it has been both wrong and illegal. Still, it is sad that this debate is run by extremists on both sides. From Norwegian media, I have gotten the impression that there does exist moderates in the countries that criticize and attack us. I believe this to be true.

To quote Norwegian politician Torbjørn Jagland. "Moderates of all countries, unite!"

I bet most people in these places never have seen any of those cartoons. They are just told that a massive offneding of Islam has taken place, that the worth-to-be-hated West is behind it (again), they remember the many defeats they had suffered from this superior enemy culture that in their world view already should have been overcome by wonderful Islam, and like little boys not getting the candies that they want they start yelling, and stomping their feet on the ground. Kindergarten. :()1:

That the hate is stirred and channeled from interested circles is no excuse. What hysteric attitude of mind must an ideology teach to the people, so that they are so easy to be set into silly-mode and display such an ammount of irrational childish behavior?

Rotary Crewman 02-07-06 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Type941
Norways pulling the troops out of Afganistan now.

Congrats Norwegian government if this is true. You have just given the mindless 'protesters' a boost.

McBeck 02-09-06 03:30 AM

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I'm also sure that by the end of this week, the USA will be blamed for the whole thing.
A islamic guy (cant remember where) stated that Denmark is just an easy target.

Why didnt the world blow up, when rumors suffaced that prison guards at guantanamo was flushing Korans down the toilet???

Maybe because the same people who are lashing out at Denmark wouldnt dare do the same to the US.

Denmark is just an easy outlet for rage and frustration these days.

Syria is still proclaming that the danish prime minister should apologize....geeeesss...are they thickheaded??!?!?! :damn:

The Avon Lady 02-09-06 03:53 AM

Wake up and smell the coffee!

Cartoon Protesters Direct Anger at U.S..

Rotary Crewman 02-09-06 04:29 AM

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The U.S. base was targeted because the United States "is the leader of Europe and the leading infidel in the world,"
Christ on a bike, when will all this crap end :nope:

TteFAboB 02-09-06 07:16 AM

Ironically, after all of this, I find the bomb-turban Mohammed cartoon gained a whole new meaning, whenever I look at it, I can't avoid but laugh, because now that cartoon is more real than ever.


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