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Seems we’re all not gonna die after all. Just the poor third world dwellers digging up the goblin ore to support my habit, comfort and convenience will kill the less fortunate slaves.

Don't overstate 1.5 degrees C threat, new IPCC head says

Jim Skea, the new head of the UN's IPCC climate panel, said it was not helpful to imply that temperature increases of 1.5 degrees Celsius posed an existential threat to humanity.

https://www.dw.com/en/dont-overstate...witter-sharing

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The newly appointed head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), Jim Skea, spoke to two major German news outlets over the weekend, soon after his appointment to the role.

Speaking to weekly magazine Der Spiegel, in an interview first published on Saturday, Skea warned against laying too much value on the international community's current nominal target of limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius compared the pre-industrial era.

"We should not despair and fall into a state of shock" if global temperatures were to increase by this amount, he said.

In a separate discussion with German news agency DPA, Skea expanded on why.

"If you constantly communicate the message that we are all doomed to extinction, then that paralyzes people and prevents them from taking the necessary steps to get a grip on climate change," he said.

"The world won't end if it warms by more than 1.5 degrees," Skea told Der Spiegel. "It will however be a more dangerous world."

Surpassing that mark would lead to many problems and social tensions, he said, but still that would not constitute an existential threat to humanity.

The international community's stated target is currently to limit global warming to the 1.5 degrees Celsius target, even though UN estimates suggest that the current commitments made by countries are actually likely to fall far short of their nominal goal.

The UN estimates that within roughly a decade, the target is liable to be breached.

What else did Skea say?

James "Jim" Skea is a physics graduate born in Dundee in Scotland who did his doctoral thesis in energy research and has worked at Imperial College London since 2009.

The 69-year-old, who has been involved with the IPCC since its foundation in the 1990s, was named its new chairman on Wednesday.

He told Der Spiegel that there remained good reasons to be optimistic in the battle against climate change.

"Every measure we take to weaken climate change helps," he said, adding that measures were also becoming "ever more cost-effective."

Skea said that one short-term focus should remain expanding renewable electricity to reduce emissions from fossil fuel electricity generation and from internal combustion engine vehicles.

"Longer term, we probably will not be able to do without technological solutions like the underground capture of CO2," he said, referring to the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide.

[B]Individual abstinence is good, but new infrastructure required[/B[

Skea predicted that one difficult area might prove to be changing people's lifestyles. He said that no scientist could tell people how to live or what to eat.

"Individual abstinence is good, but it alone will not bring about the change to the extent it will be necessary," Skea said. "If we are to live more climate consciously, we need entirely new infrastructure. People will not get on bikes if there are no cycle paths."

Skea said he also wanted to adapt the IPCC so that it could provide better and more targeted advice to specific groups of people on how they could act to combat climate change.

He named groups like town planners, landowners and businesses: "With all these things it's about real people and their real lives, not scientific abstractions. We need to come down a level," he told DPA.

He said he also hoped to make progress during his tenure on how and where money was sent and spent to tackle the problem globally.

"There's enough money in the world, the challenge is getting it to flow to the right places," he said.

msh/sri (AFP, dpa)

Ya but whatabout the consensus!? . Lol guiliable idiots. :har::har:

Denmark is about to break an 92 year old record for July

This July 2023 will be the wettest month since 1931.

It has been raining almost everyday throughout July and the temp. hasn't been higher than 21-22 degrees C.
Right now it's 23.30 and the temp. is 17 C and it is pouring down.

Markus

This guy probably did more for "mother earth" than the entire US government ever will. :03: The forest he created is larger than Central Park.

https://interestingengineering.com/s...est-by-himself

https://images.interestingengineerin...Tree_Place.jpg

What do the skeptical science consensus kool-aid drinkers think?

The North Atlantic jet stream is streaking along at 168-knots, which is nearly unprecedented for early August. While climate change makes the jet stream more wavy or "drunk" as reported several times over the past months, this is totally the opposite and inconsistent.

https://i.postimg.cc/d3SqwHrZ/IMG-2145.jpg

North American and Greenland snow extent was higher than usual, inconsistent with the hypothesis that warming causes low spring snow extent which destabilizes the summer jetstream, causing chaotic summer weather. A completely different mechanism destabilized the jetstream in spring (not the timeframe of the Cohen hypothesis a la Jeff Berardelli). The summer jetstream has stabilized, counter the hypothesis, again.

https://i.postimg.cc/RZGBcCgQ/IMG-2147.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/d1ZcP2w4/IMG-2146.jpg

When it gets warmer there is more rain and more snow, remains to see how long the snow will last. When ocean waters heat up it will more influence the bigger ice masses, and we see this at the north pole and in Antarctica :hmmm:

Just days ago they showed that ice loss in Greenland and the Arctic had hit an all time record. It was not the Truman show. By trend, its not better in the Antarctic.

That these things are happening cannot be doubted by any sane mind. What can - and must - be discussed is how best to adapt to these changes. Our current ideas are chaotic at best and aim to turn the clocks back. This is not ideal from an evolutionary point of view.

Certainly not good for those who live on the land that will disappear under the higher water levels.

I’ve read that greendland ice was melting because the earth underneath was warmer, pretty sure I’ve posted that before.

Also in the news, not sure when NASA first said it but they have definitions I’ve never heard before.

GLOBAL WARMING: is attributed to CO2 in the atmosphere.
CLIMATE CHANGE: is attributed to natural occurring change.

The above weather phenomena is attributed to climate change.

I think it’s getting to the point now those in the AGW consensus science camp can’t hide behind the idea it’s all your fault anymore. :yep:

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2879218)

Certainly not good for those who live on the land that will disappear under the higher water levels.

Well even if true it's not like it would happen over a weekend. Those who presently live on that land will be long since dead before their tootsies could possibly get damp.

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2879265)

Well even if true it's not like it would happen over a weekend. Those who presently live on that land will be long since dead before their tootsies could possibly get damp.

So your saying my investment in Beach Front property a Mile from the Ocean is pretty much worthless?
:o

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2879266)

So your saying my investment in Beach Front property a Mile from the Ocean is pretty much worthless?
:o

Well maybe if you live in Namibia but there is very little worthless property here in the US, and i'd bet there is none at all up in my corner of it.

https://think--again-org.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp

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The IMF in Washington DC, a financial organization of the United Nations, had arranged a Zoom lecture with one of the three 2022 physics laureates. Then, a few days before the July 25 date, they apparently took a look at his manuscript and unceremoniously disinvited him again. That's quite an unusual procedure. What was the reason?

John Clauser is at home in both theoretical and experimental physics. Such physicists are rare - Enrico Fermi was one, Einstein was not. His expertise is in "entangled particles." This phenomenon conforms to quantum mechanics, but possibly contradicts relativity. So one could not choose a more challenging topic
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Clauser, however, has also dealt with a problem on this side: the climate. He has shown that in the frequently cited computer models, the warming influence of CO2 is given too much weight compared to the cooling influence of clouds. After all, they look so dazzlingly white from an airplane perspective because they reflect the sunlight and hardly let any of it through to the earth. So it's no wonder that we grab a warm jacket on the terrace when clouds come.

Clouds are made of water. The warmer it gets, the more moisture the air absorbs, especially over the oceans, which cover two-thirds of the earth. So the warmer it gets, the more clouds form and reflect solar radiation back into space. They act like a very powerful thermostat that more than compensates for the warming effect of CO2. Mother Earth has a parasol ready, so to speak, which she puts up in case it gets too warm.

According to Clauser's calculations, the warming effect of CO2 is exaggerated by a factor of 200 compared to the cooling clouds. This criticism of the computer models is more than justified, considering that all their predictions so far have been grotesquely wrong.

His verdict: "The common narrative on climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the global economy and the well-being of billions of people. Misguided climate science has metastasized in the form of pseudoscience and shock journalism."
(...)

Wonder what happens if you drop a MOAB into a big active volcano? :hmmm:

Ulez: More than 300 cameras damaged or stolen in four months
Published

18 August

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-66535086

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By Yasmin Rufo
BBC News

More than 300 cameras installed for London's Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) were vandalised or stolen between April and mid-August, the BBC can reveal.
Over four months, the Met received 339 reports of camera cables being damaged, or cameras being stolen or obscured. The actual number of cameras affected is likely to be even higher as one report can represent multiple cameras.

Unofficial data mapping the location of disabled cameras suggests that almost 500 cameras could have been affected.

It also suggests that the vast majority have been in outer London where the zone is being expanded. Some 1,900 cameras have been installed in outer London so far. Despite so much damage being caused, one man has so far been charged by police.

Scotland Yard has now released an image of a man detectives are trying to trace in connection with four offences in Hillingdon, Harrow and Uxbridge on 17 June.
Cdr Owain Richards said the Met had "a team of officers investigating and identifying those responsible" and was working with TfL to "identify new ways to prevent further cameras from being damaged or stolen".

The force has not revealed the locations of any of the disabled cameras but a group of people calling themselves Julie's Ulez map, who are opposed to the Ulez expansion, worked to track the locations and damage caused to cameras.
The map shows there are 1,619 cameras outside the North and South circular roads with 461 of those reported as vandalised or stolen - equating to 28% of the Transport for London's (TfL) network cameras.

Kingsley Hamilton, who runs one of most popular anti-Ulez social media groups, told the BBC he could see why "if someone is in a desperate situation and has no way out" they may turn to vandalism. "I don't condone it but I won't explicitly say you can't do that. It would be wrong for me to say you're a bad person for doing that (vandalising cameras)," he added.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...f6b8d9e63a.jpg
Black pins relate to stolen cameras and blue pins show damaged cameras

TfL is planning to install a total of 2,750 cameras before the expansion comes into force at the end of August. Speaking at Mayor's Question Time on 20 July, Sadiq Khan said transport bosses were confident "there will be the same number of cameras up on 29 August that they had originally planned" and that "there is no need for Plan Bs, Cs or anything else".

The BBC visited one area in south-east London where seven cameras had recently been damaged. Residents there had mixed views. Abbie Mires, who works in the area, said the "harsh action" of targeting Ulez cameras was justified. "It is criminal, but at the end of the day people are trying to prove a point and no one is listening. Old people who've been using their cars for years and years now have to stop driving because they can't afford it," she said.

Other residents like Sam Lockwood said damaging Ulez cameras was a "step too far".

"Maybe they think they are Robin Hood characters trying to help others and if they want to risk it that's fair enough. But I think there are better ways to fight the system," he said.

Husband and wife, Roy and Linda McKensie had to get rid of two cars ahead of the Ulez expansion, but said disabling cameras was "criminal activity whichever way you look at it" which they "don't agree with". Linda added: "I know things are awkward. I know things are frustrating. But if it all ends up getting lawless it's not going to work."

A spokesperson for TfL said: "Criminal damage to the cameras puts the perpetrators at risk of prosecution and life-changing injuries, while simultaneously risking the safety of the public."

When the BBC asked TfL and the mayor's office about the costs of vandalism it was told that "due to commercial and confidentiality reasons, it cannot share the unit cost of cameras, or for repair of cameras".

The only figure the BBC has seen was an estimate cost of the planned expansion from November 2022, which was about £159.5m based on assumptions at that time.

This includes spend for systems design, development and testing; on-street infrastructure design, procurement and delivery including camera installation and signage; marketing and media campaign; and legal and consultation costs.