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TarJak 05-28-14 03:26 PM

Forced and arranged marriage is not restricted to Islamic culture. There are numerous cases here of out occurring in Hindu, Sikh and also Chinese families. Even more so in India and China.

banryu79 05-28-14 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2211671)
Forced and arranged marriage is not restricted to Islamic culture. There are numerous cases here of out occurring in Hindu, Sikh and also Chinese families. Even more so in India and China.

Yes, even here in my country, Italy, we have cases of forced marriage occurring well outside islamic cuture, as the ones you cited above. I'm trying to inform mysef better on this, it is the best thing I can done atm (and I think it is a very good thing everybody can do VS nothing).

I found an offical document from my governament (I looked in the gov site) about the matter and it ooks like the most neglected thing ATM about forced marriage is that most people doesn't even know of it. Even association (here in Italy) that helps women victims of violence only recently started to recognize that forced marriage is one potential cause behind many violence stories.

I also learnt from that document that the "Tackling Forced Marriage in the North East" that Jimbuna spoke about is currently the most "active thing" done in Europe in general to tackle the problem (even if in a local area, ATM).

I think that it would be a very positive thing if the general public will know of this phenomenon, I hope somebody coud be intrested to produce a good movie based on one of the real stories I red: they showed that the phenomenon is very complex, it has got many faces and aspects and is not a simple and easy thing to manage.

Skybird 05-28-14 05:58 PM

And there are Mafia assassination not just in Sicily as well. Pointing that out proves - what point exactly? That the Mafia in Sicily is more harmless?

Tribesman 05-29-14 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2211707)
And there are Mafia assassination not just in Sicily as well. Pointing that out proves - what point exactly? That the Mafia in Sicily is more harmless?

It proves that if someone was saying "its a mafia thing" they are dealing in half truths, which means their arguement is dishonest.:yep:
Though what strikes me as really dishonest is your objections to the distasteful practice in these societies.
If by some miracle you get through with your global genocide dream to achieve your strange "utopian" ideal of patriachal feudalism with its program of eugenics based breeding would forced marriage be the societies norm and would the genocidal regime maintain its ideals by corrective punishment on those who refused to adhere to its ideal... you know like removing them permanently from society?:hmmm:
Logic would suggest that this must be the case, which means that due to your ideology you are the last person who can condemn these barbaric practices as you yourself are an advocate of such measures:oops:

Once again your own words come back and bite you in the posterior.

Quote:

The most superior civilization has shone again.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27593504
That's an interesting one.
The brides family agreed to the marriage, they agreed to the price.
After two years engagement the marriage went ahead but the brides family insisted on doubling the price.
When they didn't get the extra money they removed the goods from the purchaser.
I suppose soiled goods have little resale value and are just unwanted stock.
Strange business practice that traditional marriage thing, or is it just a variation of normal business practice with somewhat different commodities.

Jimbuna 05-29-14 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2211608)
Coincidentally?

I haven't heard that word before so I had to look it up:

Coincidentally | Define Coincidentally at Dictionary.com

dictionary.reference.com/browse/coincidentally
adjective 1. happening by or resulting from coincidence ; by chance: a coincidental meeting.
2. existing or occurring at the same time. Origin: 1790–1800 ...

Then you have it at no 2 :cool:

Jimbuna 05-31-14 11:58 AM

An excellent outcome :sunny:

Quote:

Sudanese authorities are to free a woman who was sentenced to death for having abandoned the Islamic faith, a foreign ministry official says.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-27651483

Mr Quatro 05-31-14 09:33 PM

Glad that's over with ... God probably got tired of hearing all those prayers
and said,

"Oh, alright let her go already ... I've got more important matters to tend to"

Flamebatter90 06-01-14 02:24 PM

^
You are one of those who sees a doctor heal someone and praises god for it, aren't you?

Sailor Steve 06-01-14 02:54 PM

Let's keep it civil.

Flamebatter90 06-01-14 04:28 PM

Sorry, Sailor_Steve, it was not my intention to start anything, and I could have worded that better.

Shall we try again? Quatro says, Christian God saved her.. saved from whom? Allah? Sharia? Which one is right?

ETA: And I'd like to know which are the RIGHT ones and why?

-ETA2: Or to put it simply: Which is the RIGHT religion?

mapuc 06-01-14 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamebatter90 (Post 2212790)
Sorry, Sailor_Steve, it was not my intention to start anything, and I could have worded that better.

Shall we try again? Quatro says, Christian God saved her.. saved from whom? Allah? Sharia? Which one is right?

ETA: And I'd like to know which are the RIGHT ones and why?

-ETA2: Or to put it simply: Which is the RIGHT religion?

That's some very good question indeed.

My simple answer:

It's up to the each individ to believe these things.
It's up to the individ if this thinks his or her religion is the right one and no one shall point finger at that person saying your religion is wrong mine is the right one.

Markus

u crank 06-01-14 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamebatter90 (Post 2212790)
Or to put it simply: Which is the RIGHT religion?

That's easy. Mine is right and all the rest are wrong. :smug:

:03:

mapuc 06-01-14 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2212795)
That's easy. Mine is right and all the rest are wrong. :smug:

:03:

Haven't many wars started because of that?

Markus

Schroeder 06-01-14 05:14 PM

Thread lock in 3...2...1...:-?

BrucePartington 06-01-14 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2212799)
Haven't many wars started because of that?

Markus

Far too many. Throughout known history, more people have been killed in the name of religion than for any other reason. This is the 21st century, time to (a-hem).....evolve.


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