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TarJak 10-02-13 10:50 PM

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-1...-genie/4994972

Not very good options for either party according to this analysis.

Ducimus 10-03-13 07:42 AM

The more Rand Paul opens his mouth, the more I like the man.

Rand Paul: Can't we all just get along?
Kentucky senator sounds off on increasingly bitter battle over ObamaCare and the partial suspension of government services, and his unconventional ideas...

Dread Knot 10-03-13 07:50 AM

Couldn't we just replace the individuals in both houses of Congress with roving packs of Howler Monkeys?

The debates would make more sense and the place is already a zoo.

Bilge_Rat 10-03-13 07:54 AM

Day three:


http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8610/dtru.jpg

Oberon 10-03-13 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2122741)
Couldn't we just replace the individuals in both houses of Congress with roving packs of Howler Monkeys?

The debates would make more sense and the place is already a zoo.

We did a similar thing a while ago:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2461/3...23972ea2_z.jpg

Banksy at his finest. :up:

Penguin 10-03-13 08:02 AM

Upcoming shutdown?
Yeah, let's spend 5 billion bucks on weapon contractors the day before: http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/...ons_on_weapons
:nope:

Dread Knot 10-03-13 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2122748)
We did a similar thing a while ago:

Banksy at his finest. :up:

I've already got my new congressman picked out. :cool:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...95_634x469.jpg

nikimcbee 10-03-13 09:58 AM

So is this still going on? Not even paying attention to it. I guess it give the news media something to do. meh.

AVGWarhawk 10-03-13 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 2122799)
So is this still going on? Not even paying attention to it. I guess it give the news media something to do. meh.

Yep, still going on. Almost cancelled the Army Navy game in Annapolis though. But priorities being what they are in America, money was found to let the game go on! :shifty:


This is all political nonsense and needless from both side. :down:

Aktungbby 10-03-13 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2122477)
:hmmm: I must question the medical accuracy of that.

I think several seconds at most is more plausible.Hard to say for sure though and that would be bad enough I think.

Once on a TDY to a Saudi airbase we got invited to watch a beheading I passed some guys went they where sorry to have gone after the fact.Over there they use a sword and families pay for thier kin to go first whilst the blade is most sharp.

*according to the linked article this causes more blood loose and is in fact more likely to cause rapid death so maybe you want to be the last guy not the first.

An interesting read on the subject;Anyway seems that it is possible for 30 or 40 seconds based on the one or two known human experiments(last one in 1905)though if it was just nerves or actual consiuos not is not known for sure.Only in more modern times they tested on rats with an EEG and they showed activity for up to 4 seconds after the close shave.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/sci...capitation.htm

The heathens! tipping still required and you were 'honored' as most infidels are not generally allowed to view such executions( bad PR):salute:

Mr Quatro 10-03-13 11:43 AM

Have you noticed the media reporting on the big shut down?

They are stirring it up big time, they are using both sides against each other, they are frowning and laughing and making gestures on who to blame.

In between it all are commercial trying to sell you something, just like when a big hurricane or flood or fire is in the news they say, "we'll be right back after this message" :yep:

The national news, the on all the time news of CNN and even the late night talk shows are all playing this to the hilt.

Spells money, money, money being made off keeping you tuned in ... my Samsung 40" lcd has a hdmi slot for dish satellite, Blu-ray and one left for my PC video card ...

I just leave it on CNN and then push the PC button and when I go back to dish to check I can slew the content backwards skipping all of the commercials a the same time.

Plus there is no way that I believe this shut down is costing $800 million dollars a day ... no way.

What about all of the money it saves too and what about all of the poor government workers on tv saying they are just one paycheck away from the poor house?

If they are just one paycheck away from the poor house they surely can't afford "obamacare" too.

AVGWarhawk 10-03-13 11:50 AM

The media has nothing better to do. Apparently Capitol Hill has nothing better to do either. :shifty:

I love the name calling the Dems throw at the Repubs.
Extortionists
Hostage takers
Terrorists
Saboteurs
Anarchists
Arsonists
Murderers

Two years ago the voting public put the Republicans in the House to fight Obamacare. Did the Dems forget this? Is this some sort of surprise? The media apparently has. But hey, it's ratings!

Tchocky 10-03-13 12:01 PM

That argument makes no sense, AVG.


In terms of the popular vote, there were over a million more votes for House Democrats than Republicans.

Also there was a presidential election between one guy who promised to repeal the ACA on his first day, and someone who would fight to keep it. And we all remember the inauguration of President Romney.

Point is - you can't take one electoral outcome and ignore the others.

It's especially hypocritical to ask if Democratic politicians have forgotten the election - while you're ignoring large chunks of it yourself.

Mr Quatro 10-03-13 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2122864)
Two years ago the voting public put the Republicans in the House to fight Obamacare. Did the Dems forget this? Is this some sort of surprise? The media apparently has. But hey, it's ratings!

Guess what happens in just five (5) more weeks?

Elections is what happens and if the Senate loses their majority the new members won't be voting till January or at the earliest after the holidays recess, which is why it is even more important to defeat "obamacare" before it can get a good head start, because after it gets going it's going to be hard to stop.

The public will be pulled apart to stop it by then saying, "WTH"

People in poor health I feel sorry for you, but I would rather feel sorry for you now than after a mis-managed healthcare bill gets enacted hurting the majority with more paperwork and all of the other problems this huge monstrosity of a bill will create. :yep:

AVGWarhawk 10-03-13 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2122870)
That argument makes no sense, AVG.


In terms of the popular vote, there were over a million more votes for House Democrats than Republicans.

Also there was a presidential election between one guy who promised to repeal the ACA on his first day, and someone who would fight to keep it. And we all remember the inauguration of President Romney.

Point is - you can't take one electoral outcome and ignore the others.

It's especially hypocritical to ask if Democratic politicians have forgotten the election - while you're ignoring large chunks of it yourself.

Sure.......

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Approximately 82.5 million people voted.[2] The Democratic Party suffered massive defeats in many national and state level elections, with many seats switching to Republican Party control. The Republican Party gained 63 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, recapturing the majority, and making it the largest seat change since 1948 and the largest for any midterm election since the 1938 midterm elections. The Republicans gained six seats in the U.S. Senate, expanding its minority, and also gained 680 seats in state legislative races,[3][4][5] to break the previous majority record of 628 set by Democrats in the post-Watergate elections of 1974.[5] This left Republicans in control of 25 state legislatures, compared to the 15 still controlled by Democrats. After the election, Republicans took control of 29 of the 50 State Governorships.
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Voters were also motivated for and against the sweeping reforms of the health care system enacted by Democrats in 2010, as well as concerns over tax rates and record deficits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...lections,_2010


Repubs were put in to stop irresponsible spending among other things. The 2010 elections were not about a Presidential position. Fact is, the Repubs are in there for a reason. I can ignore the others.


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