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mookiemookie 04-16-13 03:26 PM

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Sources told FOX 25 there was an American Airlines flight that was headed to Chicago. There were two men on that plane – not sitting next to each other – and speaking Arabic.

There were some concerned marathoners on the flight so the plane was brought back to the gate and the two men were escorted off the plane.

No other details were immediately available.
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/219...#ixzz2Qez2T5bp

Concerned marathoners? Sounds more like concerned xenophobic idiots to me.

Oberon 04-16-13 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 2042376)
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/219...#ixzz2Qez2T5bp

Concerned marathoners? Sounds more like concerned xenophobic idiots to me.

Expect a lot more incidents like this over the coming weeks.

TLAM Strike 04-16-13 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2042367)
Doesn't stop many Americans from posing with their guns. :hmmm: Or indeed, me from posing with an L85A2.

There is context to consider. A Saudi male coming to America and taking a photo holding a Golden firearm has some bad connotations behind it (I remember that Saddam has a couple of those). Perhaps if you Oberon came to Boston and took a photo of yourself brandishing that L85A2 (or perhaps a Ferguson Rifle), or if I came to the UK and took a photo brandishing an Armalite (since I have an Irish last name) it might not appear innocent in certain circumstances.

You certainly have the right to take such a photo and post it but if by some fluke you end up being questioned by the FBI you might have some explaining to do.

AndyJWest 04-16-13 03:35 PM

How do you know where the photo was taken?

mapuc 04-16-13 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2042375)
x2 :yep: Sadly in this day and age it's natural that the first fingers will be pointed at Muslims, just as when something bad happens in a Muslim country it's usually blamed on the west. That's how it goes, but either way, stirring up panic and hatred when no-one knows who did it is counter-productive, but that's never stopped society before.

I'm not better my self. I remember my first thought when I heard about the Oklahoma bombing...When will we be free of these Islamic terror...I was wrong

When this awful thing happened i Oslo, Norway my first thought was..not again, when will we be free...

I have learned my lesson, no more hesitated conclusion

Markus

AndyJWest 04-16-13 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042379)
if I came to the UK and took a photo brandishing an Armalite (since I have an Irish last name) it might not appear innocent in certain circumstances..

It wouldn't appear innocent in most circumstances. We don't allow individuals access to Armalites...

Oberon 04-16-13 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042379)
There is context to consider. A Saudi male coming to America and taking a photo holding a Golden firearm has some bad connotations behind it (I remember that Saddam has a couple of those). Perhaps if you Oberon came to Boston and took a photo of yourself brandishing that L85A2 (or perhaps a Ferguson Rifle), or if I came to the UK and took a photo brandishing an Armalite (since I have an Irish last name) it might not appear innocent in certain circumstances.

You certainly have the right to take such a photo and post it but if by some fluke you end up being questioned by the FBI you might have some explaining to do.

So, guilty until proven innocent? :hmmm:

Stealhead 04-16-13 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2042367)
Doesn't stop many Americans from posing with their guns. :hmmm: Or indeed, me from posing with an L85A2.

Anyway, BPD said yesterday that the reports that they had a man in hospital under custody were false, and yet today those false reports are still circulating. It's almost as bad as the photo of a little girl going around facebook asking people to pray for her as she was a victim of the bombing when she was in fact nowhere near Boston at the time and was, in fact, running in another race in Virginia sometime last year.

On top of all that "golden gun" looks like Sig Sauer P series to me maybe a 226 or 220 it is an older version as well it does not have the newer extractor so it is either an older model or a Turkish copy.

I agree with you the photo was likely taken in Saudi Arabia the wealthy love their golden guns.

I think xenophobia is flaring in relation to this Saudi kid and that only plays into the hands of Islamic terrorist groups sadly.What is also not mentioned is that a female Saudi national was also injured while attending the marathon with her family of course a female does not fit the bill so she got ignored.

I may be wrong but I have a gut feeling that this person was never of any interest to the authorities perhaps beyond some basic questioning if that even occured and that someone heard about him and decided to spread their agenda.The fact this information first came form some of the most unreliable media outlets furthers my suspension.

Oberon 04-16-13 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2042383)
I'm not better my self. I remember my first thought when I heard about the Oklahoma bombing...When will we be free of these Islamic terror...I was wrong

When this awful thing happened i Oslo, Norway my first thought was..not again, when will we be free...

I have learned my lesson, no more hesitated conclusion

Markus

Oh aye, it's certainly possible that this is an Islamic militant of some sort, or a domestic nutjob, however starting some sort of facebook lynch mob on a report that's been denied by the Boston Police Department is not exactly helpful to the Boston Police or FBI who will have to expend resources protecting the individual in question from misguided well wishers. :nope:
I fully expect to see those pictures pasted into some note like 'This terrorist is reponsible for the Boston attacks but is being protected by the FBI because of Obamas government' or something like that on facebook before long.
Not an attack on TLAM, he's just copying and pasting what someone else has dug up in their 'righteous quest'.

TLAM Strike 04-16-13 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2042382)
How do you know where the photo was taken?

If Facebook and his Mobile Phone are to believed it was taken in Revere Mass, on Sept 3rd 2012 (although he has returned from a trip to Saudi recently).

EDIT: I checked the photo to see if a location and time were imbedded and it contained no Metadata, which might be due to it being uploaded to Facebook I guess.

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2042384)
It wouldn't appear innocent in most circumstances. We don't allow individuals access to Armalites...

Massachusetts restricts ownership of handguns.

Stealhead 04-16-13 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042393)
If Facebook and his Mobile Phone are to believed it was taken in Revere Mass, on Sept 3rd 2012 (although he has returned from a trip to Saudi recently).

Massachusetts restricts ownership of handguns.


You are aware that news networks are currently saying that the government has officially stated that this kid was a spectator and not a suspect I hope.

TLAM Strike 04-16-13 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2042390)
Not an attack on TLAM, he's just copying and pasting what someone else has dug up in their 'righteous quest'.

I just report 'em, I don't make them up. :salute:

TLAM Strike 04-16-13 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2042397)
You are aware that news networks are currently saying that the government has officially stated that this kid was a spectator and not a suspect I hope.

Did I ever say he was a suspect? I stated he was the Person of Interest the Boston Police had questioned at Brigham Hospital, he has a photo of himself with a fancy looking pistol and that his last name happened to be the same as someone from Saudi Arabia who was connected to AQ.

None of those things say that he did it, all they are is just plain simple facts.

Stealhead 04-16-13 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042406)
Did I ever say he was a suspect? I stated he was the Person of Interest the Boston Police had questioned at Brigham Hospital, he has a photo of himself with a fancy looking pistol and that his last name happened to be the same as someone from Saudi Arabia who was connected to AQ.

None of those things say that he did it, all they are is just plain simple facts.


You just seem to be building your case against him.The facts the way I see them are that the dude is Saudi he has a fairly common Saudi last name and he has a Facebook photo that shows him holding a handgun which you have no idea where the photo was taken.There is no proof what so ever that the BPD ever considered this person a POI.

Jimbuna 04-16-13 04:13 PM

Let us all keep an open mind....there are a great deal of parameters and possibilities to be taken into consideration.


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