Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1744833)

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1746074)

I have to say I am getting rather fed up with the concept of DLC, and how the industry is using this to nickle and dime us as much as possible.

For one thing, most of this content is already either done (or cut out of) the final game before it even ships. In some cases it is so blatant that they did this, were you get a half complete game that you then have to buy the rest of the little bits jut to get a finished game.

Frankly I agree with Yahtzee about cutting their hands off and ransoming the hands back to them.

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1746074)

I have to say I am getting rather fed up with the concept of DLC, and how the industry is using this to nickle and dime us as much as possible.

For one thing, most of this content is already either done (or cut out of) the final game before it even ships. In some cases it is so blatant that they did this, were you get a half complete game that you then have to buy the rest of the little bits jut to get a finished game.

Frankly I agree with Yahtzee about cutting their hands off and ransoming the hands back to them.

Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1747866)

Well I dont agree entirely and i think even the mighty Yahtzee contradicted him self on this one. I'm not saying I like DLC, but rather - it is a necessary evil for the games industry today.

As Yahzee highlighted in his Deus ex HR review, games development is NOT like it was 10 years ago, the production costs have sored beyond belief and people now expect four times the level of detail in terms of visuals & physics alone (or shiney pixels as Yahtzee puts it)

But heres the kicker, games still sell at about the same price they did 10 years ago and sell in similar numbers too! (Funny how this fact always tends to get overlooked by grumpy gamers)
Now when you consider all that, something has got to give, in this case games become shorter or have less content & depth.
That, unfortunatley is what often gets compromised, because shiney graphics make good first impressions, but those other gameplay aspects can only be discovered mutch later after someone has already purchased the game.
And when that happens the harcore gaming crowd are up in arms - naturally.

So yes while some DLC is just overpriced fluff. in many other cases DLC is often the only viable option to complete an ambitious game like Deux EX: HR and truley give the fans everything they want.

Alot of gamers seem to be stuck with this old fashioned mentality of "well back in 2000 i could get the 98% perfect game/sim or whatever right out of the box, why should i pay extra for them to 'finish' the game?"
The Short answer is; we are not in 2000 anymore, things have changed.
And it raises the question; are those 10 year old expections really still valid in 2011, when the price of games has remained static?.

Maybe we just want our cake and eat it! Because the way I see it, its either the DLC route or a significant price hike in games overall, now the beauty of the former is that it is not manditory, You don't HAVE to pay for it if you don't want to.

My only REAL complaint with DLC, is that it is often a tad overpriced for what you get! And yes, I do agree it is a bit rum, if the content was completed during the intial development period- then cut out or 'locked'.
The concept of DLC is good! but it does need some balancing out over what DLC is and isnt acceptable for the price tag. Some kind of regulation is needed, thats all.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1748219)

I realized something. Just like Deus Ex, the entirety of Human Revolution takes place at night.