Well.. I pre-ordered it from www.play.com on the day it was announced.

If that helps. I love this franchise, and I want them to continue. They need our support.

£30, that's cheap.

Be warned that Play have recently been taking pre-orders at a certain price and then canceling those and re-listing the item at an elevated price. ;)

Amazon are doing the same thing too.:nope:

Now there is a trooper if I have ever seen one. :up:

You can kiss your ass goodby on modding.
No sane developer is going to go that route and be in competition with free modding. It just won't happen. Just look at DW for an example. It took several years, and the game litteraly failing in the market to open up the possibility of adding new playable units (not SCS approved).
Falcon 4 AF has a similar policy as I recall.
Do you really want to give the developers so much power that they transform the game in a "closed" platform as far as modding is concerned ? :shifty:

Didn't think of that one. :88)

RR is right anyway; any talk of subscription based payment or modular design is besides the point now, that ship has sailed.

Though we might nudge them in a different direction for the next game. :D

Subscription? No thanks.

Cheap d/l trial valid for 2 weeks? OK, at the right price.

I'm one of those odd people who expect certain things of those I give money. Good business is good business whether the unit price is $5 or $5,000.

Force me to activate via Steam? Sod off.

Release the game with blindingly obvious technical glitches (such as SH4, and I mean technical in terms of the nature of the systems in the subs, NOT the programme itself)? Sod off.

Tell me I can't return it die to on-line activation, as Empire Total War did? Sod off. (Plus I still froced my retailer to take it back on the grounds of Australian trade practices laws, but that's a different story...).

While we're at it....reviews. What's with the sh!te reviewers? The scores for ETW were laughable in the face of the released product. Just nowhere near reality.

In short, I am a consumer very short on trust and Ubi has history (I though SH2 and SH4 were crap on release, which is why I waited over a year after SH3 was released, especially as it required a PC upgrade....you want me to shell out for that, you better come up with the goods).

Most software publishers fail on most measures of 'best in class' customer interaction. They deserved to be punished for it. Sadly, they won't be, as most consumers these days are like 'Pavolv's dogs'.....

I get the impression it's more like "cornered dogs". People aren't conditioned to accept crap, they just don't have any choice. Name 1 other sub-sim that is on par with SH...

I'm going to wait and see before I purchase, maybe a month or so after its released.

I Agree , I think 30 UK pounds for the new SH5 is very cheap , if the new version of the Silent Hunter serie have Dynamic Shadows and many new well made features I am ready to pay much more than that to support this Silent Hunter simulation



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I don't remember at what price I got SH4, but SH3 was at 20€, for me, that's cheap, and a good way to fight piracy. About subscriptions to be able to play, I definitely don't suppport those. My time is so limited, that I'd probably be buying a subscription I wouldn't use.

What we do here, buy on day one or buy after a year, is totally not relevant to ubisoft (IMO), we will buy it anyway...

What can be done is to avoid expressing harsh/dumb criticism if I don't exactly get what i expected in here.

I ask myself why those niche games producers do not want to drive the buyers into some community (here).
(it is so trendy... facebook and all the social networks...)

Now if i was to buy something I am usually uninterested in, say car racing, I would never spend 50$ on it.

Making some sort of moral out of it... we are addressing Ubisoft here and not the developers (witch I guess are much more receptive/human).

Hints to a game producer ? For me his first concern is: how do I attrract as many people as possible to buy the box ?

I'm buying on the day through Subsim.
Purchase relevant extras and add ons after release - yes - but any future sub sim which is subscription based - I'm out - no interest.

£30 Cheap?
Its average, since i first started playing PC games back in 2000
I have NEVER paid more than £34.99 for a new PC title - ever!. And that was only because they charged that much in HMV and high street stores.

I buy all my games online now, so ive not paid more than £29.99 (for a brand new release) since the past 3 year or so now.

For a game that has that kind of replay value, it's cheap. ;)

You pay the same for that quick 8-10 hour playthrough that you shelve after completing it.

For us devotees it's cheap.
But - horses for courses.
Don't forget that lots of folk have payed out to buy sub sims, loaded them up and found it's not their kind of game.
For them it is also an 8-10 hour play through before shelving.
Everybody to their own