Ok, re-reading some of the stuff here. This thread will be re-opened ( for the time being ) but folks need to get back on track, up until this page things were relatively productive.

Also, urifisch you need to get more consistent with your posts\threads, it is becoming difficult at times to follow all of this.

As mentioned previously, when I first saw this thread I went, ok, here we go again, but was pleasantly surprised, up until this page most posts were above bar. Then I saw a thread of yours " AI U-Boats " and thought ok, maybe he has toned it down a bit with regards to the OP of this thread. Then I saw this from your earlier post:

So for you it may have reached it's peak ( modding ), etc., but for other's it has not. As far as being the best sim ... whether it is or not is entirely subjective, so will you not get to far with that argument.

So back to the OP " Why Mod SH3 and not SH4 and see what some others ( folks who have not posted ) have to say.

@ other folks here. I have edited a few of the other posts, no need for name-calling, blah, blah, blah. SUBSIM is far better than that. I make no apologies for doing so. I did my best with regards to the edits, sorry if they look or sound a little funny :doh::yep:


RDP

Sorry you feel that way Urfisch, people mod any game regardless of age because they can & because they want too, if I got bored with a game I would shelve it, not play it and certainly not go to the bother of modding it!!:yep:
As a lot have stated they tried SH4 (many times) and just don't like it, so if you don't like it, & don't play it, why would you mod it!!:-?
Some people, like the GWX4 team, think it has potential and are currently modding it, when the first version is released I will certainly be trying it again, and so will a lot of others.:yep:
Oh btw, I'm sorry, but since SH4 has so many bugs, that even after all this time are still there, my faith in it's future is grim, just my opinion though.:)

true words...

so it all seems to end up in "like or dislike"...and i share this opinion. sh4 at its actual state is far from beeing as delightful as sh3. even the graphics seem not as good, as they might get one day. the potential is there...but it has to be used. and as i said before, hopefully gwx4 is a kind of iginition for a new age of modding. but...who knows, what comes.

until this happens, i will also keep on modding (and playing, if theres time) sh3.

Ya, came here too to check it out and was wishing to find a fight. :-? I miss them fights...

That's just becase you haven't posted in this thread :lol:

That right there tells you haven't looked into SH4 modding very much. Seriously, check the mods forums. You'll see there's quite a lot more going on than just people sitting on their ass and waiting for GWX4 :up:

Ya crazy bugga :lol:

Failing to slow TC or call out when spotting own or neutral ships is a killer for me too
Dont think that can be modded

Say What???:lol:

SH4
No call out - ship spotted etc - for your own ships or neutrals
All you get is a message in the box and no drop in TC

I can leave Kiel at high TC and just watch the box scroll up ship spotted ***** etc and stay at same TC
Only drop out of TC and get voice for enemy ships\aircraft
Which makes any other shipping a waste of time unless you live on the bridge to know its there

No atmospere there

Oh I see, I didn't notice that, gee that would be a pain for me, I always like to TC to the action, wouldn't want to forget and have a tea break, you'd come back and find out you've been around the world!!:lol: And your right, no atmosphere, without crew interaction etc it just doesn't feel right.:-?

Killed more than 1 crew by blasting straight INTO port
Expecting a slowdown
lol
Test crews are cheap
:rotfl:

Really to make SH3 almost perfect all you need is the transparent water & higher res!:yep:

Tis a pity couldnt transplant the game engine
Thats the real killer improvement
Load times \campaign and unit handling
SH4 water doesnt bother me
Res changes are cool - never really noticed them till got a widescreen monitor recently

I would kill to have SH4's loading times. :( Water would be a nice bonus, but that'd kill my frames.