There was a 20 minute Q&A with Berg on the Michael Savage radio show. I found it quite interesting. My only thought for all to ponder, if the lady that raised him is on her death bed, why did he only go there by himself?

This is the only thing that has worried me about the candidacy for president.

If it be true that he is ineligible to run for the position, and is allowed, then it is just another usurpation of the Constitution that they all who run for the position swear an oath to uphold, protect, and defend.

If Mr. Berg has proof to the contrary that the man is not an eligible claimant to run for the presidency, then it must be obeyed that he step down from the pulpit, and relinquish the candidacy for the presidency on behalf of the Democratic Party, and let someone who is a citizen take his place.

If the evidence points to the fact the plaintiff has no grounds through proof, then let leave the man be and let the race go on.

Getting a birth certificate is easy to do. If he cannot or will not there is only one reason why...

This I do not disagree with, but I'm willing to wait to see what turns up, and if it is true either way.

Mmm... He was not born! :know:

:rotfl:Good one.

I've not seen any documentation on it, but I understand that Obama's grandmother (the mother of his biological father) in Kenya has stated repeatedly that she was there in the delivery room when Barry was born in Kenya.

So is it the case that if you are born a US citizen overseas, you cannot be president?

In this case, since only one of the parents was an American citizen, if he was born in Kenya then he would not be a natural born citizen and would not be able to run for President. There's also the question of whether he gave up his American citizenship when he was enrolled in school in Indonesia, listed as an Indonesian citizen and aquired an Indonesian passport (which he used to travel to countries that US citizens were not allowed to travel to at the time when he was in his 20s).

A child born, for instance, on a military base overseas to parents who are both American citizens and are there at the orders of the US military is considered a natural born US citizen.

Meh.........we are just going to give this a bye like everything else Obama has received.

I now go check my air pressure on my car as the part of the Obama energy plan:up:

So if you are born abroad with one american parent and immediately registered at birth as a US citizen you are not a natural born american - this is the case, right?

What's the issue with dual nationality - you don't allow it, or something? I know lots of people with dual nationality; US and something else- i was talking to one just this evening.

Even the mayor of London has dual US/British nationality (or at least he did)

Honestly, I think this is a none issue. 18 months have past and nothing to hang a hat on. But, for clarification, I would like to know what the rules are.

The problem is that his mother registered him as if he had been born in the US. If he wasn't born in the US, he's not a natural born citizen (as I understand it). It's not that he's not allowed to be a US citizen if he's born elsewhere, it's only the President that has to be a natural born US citizien. A person born practically anywhere can become a naturalized citizen and hold government posts (ie Arnold Schwarzenneger), but they just can't be President (without an amendment to the Constitution).

As for the dual citizenship, Indonesia didn't allow for dual citizenship at the time, so he would have had to denounce his American citizenship. In order to regain it, he would have had to be re-naturalized, and there is no evidence that he did this (to date).

DT is correct, but I wanted to add, the law back then was if the mother was a citizen and 19 years old, the child born outside of the US would automatically be a citizen. She was only 18 I believe, which is also part of Berg's original complaint.

Yep, thanks for the reminder on that, I had forgotten about that part.:up:

So what is the bottom line here?

Is he a foreigner or a US citizen entitled to be the President of the US if so elected ? :hmm: