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Raptor1 04-16-08 01:33 PM

Too bad we don't have AI Leander and York class cruisers, we could have a reenactement Battle of the River Plate

MMarques 04-16-08 02:28 PM

Yea, I'm afraid only the cumberland is there and it didnt have a part in the fight.

M. Sarsfield 04-16-08 02:31 PM

What would be good CA substitutes (from the game inventory) if one wanted to create a River Plate Quick Mission?

Raptor1 04-16-08 03:02 PM

I would guess that the best RN substitutes would be a Kent class for HMS Exeter, and 2 Fijis for Achilles and Ajax...

I can't remember if SH4 has a Dido, If it does, It would probably work better then the Fiji

Xantrokoles 04-16-08 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haegemon
First the basic functions, later you'll got time to figure how to improve the things up. The cannons, torpedoes, crewmen and rooms, are the later part. Just put the nodes in the dat file. :lol:

Did you try to edit a stock game ship? Just curious

It is a stock game ship, that's why the exeptions are so big.

But no it looks like the AI PBB(with sunlight, reflections and so on)
+MMarques will make a super skin:p

Can we leave the gun control system the same way ike on the DD?

Will-Rommel 04-16-08 03:23 PM

Yeah leave it the same way, just add some playable guns. (AA and deck gun, but not the main battery)

lancerr 04-16-08 07:21 PM

what?
 
no main battery? really?

M. Sarsfield 04-16-08 09:12 PM

Did any of you ever play Great Naval Battles of the North Atlantic? You had the option of allowing the gun crews to automatically fire using the fire control directors or optics or you could manually take over one of the turrets. Basically, the turret view looked sort of like the TBT/UZO with settings for type of ammo, range, rate of fire, and spread (narrow, wide, or normal). I think it also had a counter to show how long it would take to reload the guns. Animation of the overhead view of the ship would show the gun barrels lowering to load and then raising again to firing position. If the ship was listing too much, the guns were no longer able to see their targets or fire. Pretty good for a 2D DOS game.

Will-Rommel 04-16-08 09:47 PM

Sounds like a good idea Sarsfield, i wonder what Xan think about it? :hmm:

lancerr 04-16-08 11:19 PM

GNB
 
Great simulation - second best to TF1942 since there were no true 3d views but amazing nonetheless.

linerkiller 04-17-08 12:33 AM

In my opinion, the AI control of the 280mm's and 150mm's guns is the best way...crap! i am Kapiten zur See! I want stand on the bridge watching my guns firing:D ! And then, there will be a way to allow the firing of the 150s but not the 280s or vice-versa:hmm: ?


Keep up the good work:up:

Bewolf 04-17-08 02:13 AM

Unluckily AI gun crews lack this certain ability to line up ships in the crosshairs. Often enough they shoot either right or left of the target. Which is a real pest. Human controlled it makes up for much better and precise shooting. Back then all what mattered was getting the range.

So yes, player controlled main batteries would raise your chances of survival and success much higher.

Now I am aware of the problems coming with modelling of the main guns, so I am certainly not pressing the issue. Fun it will be anyways ; )

W4lt3r 04-17-08 02:15 AM

Yea, i agree on the huge inaccuracy hit ratio of the main gunners... Maybe if i'd readjust the medium/close ranges much closer to the long range maximum. Then i'd see is there any difference in gun spreads.

I'll test it out in a moment and report here..

MMarques 04-17-08 02:39 AM

I've been trying to figure out a way to make the 11" guns fire at a longer range than the 5,9" guns but they always fire at the same range.

I'm not sure if its possible to we'll have to hope there's a way somewhere.

W4lt3r 04-17-08 02:58 AM

Just finished on the spread test, and even though i setted the close range into 11km, while longest is 15km, the spread is still horrible, although at 8km range, lot more hits were done then before..

But regarding the different ranges, readjusting the maximum range on the 5.9s and adjusting their max range to 8km, while the 11" can keep their standard range (was that like 27km or so?). At least that's what i thought out.


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