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Onkel Neal 03-17-15 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Wade (Post 2297950)
The German subs could dive deeper for longer and faster than any other subs in the war. (German subs could dive in excess of 250 meters. American subs could only dive to 100 meters) The type 7's sank more shipping than any other sub type and were built in the greatest numbers. The type 21's could outrun their adversaries while at depth, or just cruise slowly, then rev up and duck out from under the depth charge splashes. By the time the depth charges arrived, they were no longer there. The streamlined shape of the hull was nearly impossible to detect with active sonar if it was angled head on or head aft to the emitter. They were way ahead of their time. American sub designs were greatly influenced by the German type 21's after the war. The nuclear submarine Nautilus had a very similar hull and very similar hydrostatic flow characteristics, including the nasty tendency to roll to the opposite side during high speed submerged turns due to the sail being too far aft.

Hi Capt Wade, all the points you raised are true. I would point out, the US subs had greater speed and range, and carried more torpedoes. And, they had A/C and ice cream :arrgh!:

Jimbuna 03-17-15 05:39 AM

Welcome to SubSim Capt Wade :sunny:

UKönig 03-17-15 11:31 AM

Just my two bits on offer,
I think ton for ton if I had to fairly rate them, I think US boats would in fact emerge as the winner.
With their sizes, weights, powerplants, electronic equipment and armament, US boats were like 'dive capable destroyers', vs the German 'torpedo attack boat, that can also dive'.
If you really want to know what clinches it in my books, is, crew comforts and accommodation. Aboard German operational subs, the crew were little more than flesh and blood links in a badly designed chain. Very little thought was given to their lives or comforts while at sea. As evidence, we have not enough bunks to go around. So they rest in shifts. Except when all crew has to lie down or conserve energy, there is no room. So they buddy up, or they lie on the deckplates. Not enough space for food or supplies. So they store it everywhere they can find a place. ...Everywhere. Only 2 W/Cs, and one of them is often acting as a 'pantry', until those supplies are used up. 1 crapper, 50 guys, I don't see a problem here, do you? Nah, what could go wrong? No privacy, only the Captain is afforded even the illusion of it, but he's the only one. And on, and on...

ReallyDedPoet 03-17-15 12:19 PM

Welcome to SUBSIM Capt. Wade :sunny:


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