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Originally Posted by Fish

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Originally Posted by August

Seriously, here's an excellent article on the problems and fallacies regarding carbon offsetting schemes...

http://www.faircompanies.com/main.as...l&sec=1&id=252

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Sorry it keep trunctuating the link even if i try to make it just text.

I blame Al Gore...

Latest research data published, adressing some claims concerning links between global climate and sun activity:

http://environment.independent.co.uk...cle2753395.ece

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/cl...123448,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6290228.stm

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Once again Algore shows how his crusade is about wealth building......his own.

Live Earth will send proceeds to the Alliance for Climate Protection, a nonprofit organization chaired by Gore.

http://www.9news.com/life/entertainm...?storyid=73429

That guy is starting to p!ss me off. If people can't see how others profit from this, then I hope they send the crooks their money. Carbon Tax? LOL. Nobody starts a business without the intent of making money.

Nonprofit businesses tend to be different, Koel.

I'm sure there are easier ways for Gore to make money.

He need look no further than his nemesis Bush for the answer to that one ;)

The Y2K bugs effect on the global warming debate:

http://www.dailytech.com/Blogger+fin...rticle8383.htm

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NASA has now silently released corrected figures, and the changes are truly astounding. The warmest year on record is now 1934. 1998 (long trumpeted by the media as record-breaking) moves to second place. 1921 takes third. In fact, 5 of the 10 warmest years on record now all occur before World War II. Anthony Watts has put the new data in chart form, along with a more detailed summary of the events

Time to ban DiHydrogen Monoxide!

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Time to ban DiHydrogen Monoxide!

If you really want to, you could always attempt that ban yourself...let us know how its going after a coupla days...:p

I read a report that suggests dramatic changes in the Arctic:

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The Arctic ice cap is decreasing in thickness and area of coverage, a phenomena highlighted in recent news articles and a fact confirmed by an increasing body of data gathered by the National Ice Center (NIC)/Naval Ice Center (NAVICE) in Suitland, Maryland. Vessels and aircraft operating in the Arctic have reported diminished summer ice coverage and scientific models consistently suggest that seasonal sea lanes through the formerly ice-locked Arctic may appear as soon as 2015. It is postulated that summertime disappearance of the ice cap could be possible by 2050 if this trend continues.

Today, most of the Arctic is inaccessible for all or most of the year because of the ice coverage. As the icecap recedes and more of the Arctic becomes ice-free for a longer period each year, more and more vessels (and aircraft) from many nations will operate in the region.

Over the next 20 years, the volume of Arctic sea ice will further decrease
approximately 40%, and the lateral extent of sea ice will be sharply reduced (at least 20%) in summer.

Polar low-pressure systems will become more common and boundary layer forced convection will increase mixed (ice-water) precipitation. Cloudiness will increase, extending the summer cloudy regime through earlier onset and later decline.

Within five years, the Northern Sea Route (NSR, a.k.a. the Northeast Passage) will be open to non-icestrengthened vessels for at least two months each summer. Records for 1961-1990 over the central Arctic Ocean, collected as part of the Russian "North Pole" drifting station program, show statistically-significant increases in temperature of 0.89 deg. C and 0.43 deg. C per decade for May and June, respectively. Temperature increases during this period are also significant for summer as a whole. A different analysis for the period 1979-1997, based on a combination of temperature data from the North Pole program, drifting buoys and land stations, reveals statistically significant trends over most of the Arctic Ocean in spring, locally exceeding 2.5 deg. C per decade. This is consistent with indications based on satellite passive microwave records of an earlier onset of spring melt over the sea ice cover and is likely also related to reductions in sea ice extent of about 3% per decade since 1979 as assessed from satellite records. Temperature trends over the Arctic Ocean are broadly consistent those over land. Land records show pronounced warming from about 1970 onwards (mostly in winter and spring), over Siberia and Northwestern North America. The general pattern of warming is partly compensated by cooling trends over eastern Canada and the northern North
Atlantic. It is important to note that in terms of 55-85 deg. N zonal averages, temperatures around 1970 were below average. Hence, what we've really seen is (in part) a recovery from anomalously cold conditions. It also appears that from 1920-1940, Arctic temperatures rose even more sharply than in the past several decades. On the other hand, the paleo-climate records suggests that today's Arctic temperatures are the highest of at least the past 400 years, possibly longer.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I read a report that suggests dramatic changes in the Arctic:

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Link please.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I read a report that suggests dramatic changes in the Arctic:

There were reports like that in the 1920's. See my link above. :up:

Link: http://www.natice.noaa.gov/icefree/FinalArcticReport.pdf

The US Navy is taking it seriously, they are ramping up for expanded naval ops in the Arctic.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I read a report that suggests dramatic changes in the Arctic:

There were reports like that in the 1920's. See my link above. :up:

Just because it was written in the 1920's does not mean it is not true today.

When I try to check that article, all I find are quotes from the Washington Times in forums. Other than the Washington Times, has that assertion been posted in any other credible news source? Has anyone been able to check the Washington Post edition sited?