View Full Version : This is how you avoid paying the TV licence !
Narcosis
10-24-06, 06:11 AM
Beating them at their own game
I had a tv licence agent call to inspect why I had not got a tv licence, i sent him packing after telling him he is tresspassing on my driveway. He left and then two policemen called and said i threatened him, they said they are giving me a on the spot fine for £80 for a section 5 public order offence. I refused to pay, I got a summons, went to court and pleaded not guilty. A trial date was fixed, I was refused legal aid for the trial.
I went to trial having a better defence QUOTE: All fixed penalties and fines prior to conviction are illegal and void as outlined in the bill of rights act 1688/9 also any act that violates this bill of rights can only be defined as an act of treason. The police never read me my rights nor did they tell me I had the right to free legal advice, a violation to the codes of Police and Criminal Evidence (PACE) act, the court clerk breeched her oath in a public office as she violated Article 6 human rights act 1998 "anyone charged with any criminal offence has a basic minimum right to free legal defence representation, this was denied me at the pre trial review by the clerk when i was refused legal aid, the tv licence agent did not turn up to give evidence probably because I sent a message to the crown prosecution service outlining these violations prior to the trial. I also told the CPS that i will be exercising my right to call for Sovereign Intervention as I believe my rights were being ignored and that no court in the land has any power to stop me calling for Sovereign Intervention as my right because the queen's coronation oath is a legal binding contract between her and her subjects, guess what, I WON.
The Avon Lady
10-24-06, 06:28 AM
I don't pay and I didn't have to do any of that. :smug:
Good job that man!! :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
With some of the crap on the telly at the moment, makes paying a license seem pointless...especially when you hear of what some TV presenters get paid... :damn:
JSLTIGER
10-24-06, 09:45 AM
You folks across the pond need a license to own a TV????
SubSerpent
10-24-06, 09:56 AM
What the hell is a TV license? :hmm:
The Avon Lady
10-24-06, 09:57 AM
You folks across the pond need a license to own a TV????
I should be fair in pointing out that here in Israel, we have the same fees to support the one and only government TV station plus a few radio stations. And here, too, we don't get what we pay for. :nope:
kiwi_2005
10-24-06, 09:58 AM
What TV licence? Ive never paid for a TV Licence:lol:
The Avon Lady
10-24-06, 09:58 AM
What the hell is a TV license? :hmm:
You must be 21 or older to watch. :p
Seriously, it's a tax. Normally, this is a fixed fee tax per household and not per TV set in a household. It's used to fund government boradcasting.
kiwi_2005
10-24-06, 10:03 AM
What the hell is a TV license? :hmm:
You must be 21 or older to watch. :p
Seriously, it's a tax. Normally, this is a fixed fee tax per household and not per TV set in a household. It's used to fund government boradcasting.
Thats what commericals are for, thats why they show them every blardy 15min during a movie. Ive never paid for a tv licence and never will, anyways i watch videos more than ever.
Just like the law is if you copy a movie thats showing on TV to dvd or video cassette you must copy the commerials as well otherwise your going against copyrights!?! Never knew that till someone pointed it out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/
That's the theory anyway :damn:
Yet another rip off in the UK :damn::damn::damn:
If you use a TV or any other device to receive or record TV programmes (for example, a VCR, set-top box, DVD recorder or PC with a broadcast card) - you need a TV Licence. You are required by law to have one.
A colour TV Licence costs £131.50 and a black and white licence costs £44.00.
You used to be able to get around getting one, by buying a TV card for your PC :smug:, but even that doesnt work anymore :damn:
As soon as you try to buy something that is capable of receiving a TV picture the dealer is required to take your name and address then pass it onto the TV License authority.
Not sure if you can still avoid it by using a TV than is powered by a battery. Caravans used to be exempt but not sure now.
It used to be used to fund the BBC, but now i believe its also used to assist Channel 4 (thats why Film 4 is now free to view).
SubSerpent
10-24-06, 10:09 AM
What the hell is a TV license? :hmm:
You must be 21 or older to watch. :p
Seriously, it's a tax. Normally, this is a fixed fee tax per household and not per TV set in a household. It's used to fund government boradcasting.
That sucks! :down:
That is ridiculous! Then again, the American government does it as well except they just throw the tax into all other taxes owed (Property, Sales, Federal, State, County/City etc)
Sounds like England just shows you guys better where your money is going than they do here over here in the US.
Gizzmoe
10-24-06, 10:11 AM
Thats what commericals are for, thats why they show them every blardy 15min during a movie.
On German public channels (two major ones and several smaller) there are no commercial breaks during movies and other shows. For the public TV and radio channels we need to pay 17€ each month.
JSLTIGER
10-24-06, 10:15 AM
In the states we have PBS...but no one really cares about PBS...we have somewhat decent free broadcast stations as well (i.e. ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, and CW), but most people over here have cable anyway. The government uses taxes to fund PBS, but like others have said, there's no individual tax for it.
SUBMAN1
10-24-06, 11:27 AM
In the states we have PBS...but no one really cares about PBS...we have somewhat decent free broadcast stations as well (i.e. ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, and CW), but most people over here have cable anyway. The government uses taxes to fund PBS, but like others have said, there's no individual tax for it.
I love PBS. Only decent programming left practically. I picked up a Pink Floyd concert off PBS about a week ago even. :up: Of course I recorded it with my TV card!
-S
FIREWALL
10-24-06, 12:10 PM
What the hell is a TV license? :hmm::rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You beat me to it SS.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
FIREWALL
10-24-06, 12:12 PM
You folks across the pond need a license to own a TV????:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
We have a system over here called free enterprise. The
s**t on tv the same but, it's free. I guess you only get
what you pay for. Or maybe not. :doh:
SubTracker69
10-24-06, 12:21 PM
That a dumb tax :down:
The BBC are a bunch of smug sick o` fantic...................Well you get the point.
Burn your licence fee they can not lock us all up as are prisons are full. ;)
SubTracker69
10-24-06, 12:26 PM
Well said Steed! :up:
Just like the women in the US burned their bras!
HunterICX
10-24-06, 12:38 PM
:-? TV license are taxes ..... soon there will be taxes be made on the amount of sh!t you dump in the toilet...
will they send a Agent to check the weight?:lol:
Godalmighty83
10-24-06, 12:40 PM
i happily pay the tv licence fee, i find the bbc to be a great public service.
i hate tv adverts in the middle of programmes.
FIREWALL
10-24-06, 01:15 PM
1. Auto tabs:$800.oo:x
2. Driver lic $20.oo:)
3. Marriage $25.oo:damn:
4. Dog lic $20.oo:roll: "her dog" why do i have to pay for it?
5. Fishing lic $30.oo
6. Firearm lic $35.oo
&. TV FREE
__________
Total $930.oo
Just think :hmm: If i was single i could've saved $45 bucks and had cable:D
Edit post: Dog house- FREE I'm in it. Wife was looking over shoulder....
TteFAboB
10-24-06, 01:16 PM
Way to go, but where did you get this from Narcossis? I'd like to personally congratulate the brave one, if that's real.
So this isn't cable right? Well, what happens if you don't have an antenna, just cable? I take it then you don't have to pay anything?
Good one man! :rock: We got one here in Swiss-cheese land. I have to pay and I can only watch the French language channel as I can't understand German even less the Swiss German dialect they speak here. :nope: So the other channels (Swiss Italian too) are wasted on me. Back in Canada we just pay our taxes for the same errr whatever.
So this isn't cable right? Well, what happens if you don't have an antenna, just cable? I take it then you don't have to pay anything?
Sorry no if you have a TV you got to pay. Some time in the last 5 years a couple had to fight there case in the courts, they said they only watch video and DVDs and had no interest watching TV. It took them a long time to win there case.
Here's another example you have a video or DVD recorder and only a black and white TV so you only need a black and white licence, sorry wrong.
Both the video or DVD recorder record in colour and you need a colour TV licence.
I am waiting too see if and when I am going to be summoned to court for not renewing my licence fee, what they don't know is I got rid of it.
FIREWALL
10-24-06, 05:36 PM
:p I can always count on you HunterICX to put a smile on my face
after comming from a heated thread.:yep:
The Noob
10-24-06, 05:47 PM
Here in austria we pay for governement TV too. But we have NO COMMERCIALS! :rock::up:
JSLTIGER
10-24-06, 06:25 PM
No commercials...now there's a fairly foreign idea!
The Noob
10-24-06, 07:43 PM
No commercials...now there's a fairly foreign idea!
Well, we do have commercials, but they do not interrupt the Program for them. That means you can watch...das Boot for example with no commercials. But when the movie is over they send 15 min. Commercials before they start the next one. But at least they do not send them in the middle of it. :rock:
I think thats the best solution. :yep:
I think we pay something like 10 Euro for it.
goldorak
10-24-06, 08:46 PM
I should be fair in pointing out that here in Israel, we have the same fees to support the one and only government TV station plus a few radio stations. And here, too, we don't get what we pay for. :nope:
Most european countries if not all of them have a tv license fee.
America is one big anomaly in this respect, maybe because tv over there has always been financed by advertising.
But in most countries around the world, someone possessing a tv require a tv license fee because the money goes to finance the public channels (the equivalent of the american PBS).
In italy we pay around 110 € per year for the tv license fee, and its one of the less costly in europe and of course we don't get what we pay for. Only reality shows on the public channels.
Germany now goes even beyond by putting an internet license fee, going into effect from january 2007. 5 € per month if you have a computer connected to the internet and if you don't already pay a regular tv license fee.
bookworm_020
10-24-06, 09:24 PM
Here in Australia, there is no TV tax. There are three major commerical TV channels (7, 9, 10), two government funded channels (ABC [Ch.2] has no ads and there is a extra digital channel for people who have a Set top box, or digital ready TV) and a commuinity channel (Ch.31) which is semi-commercial.
When Digital TV was switiched on in 2001, there was an increase in channels(all free, but could only be picked up using a digital receiver), but they tend to be low quailty things, weather, Feed from state govenment sittings (watching paint dry is better), and so on.
There is cable TV, but only 15% to 20% of Australia has it hooked up. Hours of TV viewing per person is dropping, more people are using computers of watching DVD's instead of watching cheap garbage recycled over and over again on TV.
If they put a tax on TV here in Australia, there would be bloodshed in the streets.
My brother in law is English, since he moved here, he has said we have it better.:up:
Onkel Neal
10-24-06, 10:20 PM
What the hell is a TV license? :hmm::rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You beat me to it SS.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Me too!
TteFAboB
10-24-06, 10:35 PM
Well STEED that's revolting (hint :D ). I understand if they demanded money from you if you actually watch the BBC, that's tolerable, you watch it, you pay for it. But since I guess it's impossible to verify this kind of thing they just go for the TV owner taxation wether you tune the TV on the BBC day in and night out or rarely use it to watch just one DVD movie or two.
Does anyone know if these tax-funded TV stations also receive tax money from other Tv Stations, Cable companies, DVD shops and DVD rental stores, etc? That would be a bit more fair too. You use the TV, you pay for it, how do they know you are using it? Well, you are watching some channel, or watching cable or renting/buying DVDs. I have no idea if that would increase or decrease the tax amount and costs though.
goldorak
10-24-06, 10:57 PM
Well STEED that's revolting (hint :D ). I understand if they demanded money from you if you actually watch the BBC, that's tolerable, you watch it, you pay for it. But since I guess it's impossible to verify this kind of thing they just go for the TV owner taxation wether you tune the TV on the BBC day in and night out or rarely use it to watch just one DVD movie or two.
Does anyone know if these tax-funded TV stations also receive tax money from other Tv Stations, Cable companies, DVD shops and DVD rental stores, etc? That would be a bit more fair too. You use the TV, you pay for it, how do they know you are using it? Well, you are watching some channel, or watching cable or renting/buying DVDs. I have no idea if that would increase or decrease the tax amount and costs though.
Actually the tv license fee is "linked" (i don't know a better word) to the tv set.
It is the possession of the tv set that makes you pay the tv license fee.
It has nothing to do wether you are watching the public broadcast channels or not.
You possess a tv, you get to pay.
At least in italy (which is an anamalous situation) the public broadcasting channels are financed by the license fee and by advertising :damn: :damn:
Yeah we get to see movies interrupted by advertising in the middle of the show, or even more times during the show.
On the other hand the private channels are 100% financed only by advertising.
Captain Nemo
10-25-06, 07:22 AM
Actually the tv license fee is "linked" (i don't know a better word) to the tv set. It is the possession of the tv set that makes you pay the tv license fee. It has nothing to do wether you are watching the public broadcast channels or not. You possess a tv, you get to pay.
Thats right. It will be interesting to see the BBC's reaction to the newer generation of mobile phones (3G). Some 3G phone providers are already advertising that you can get Sky TV on your mobile. If this is the case surely the BBC will force people who own these phones to have a TV license. We shall see.
Nemo
I do believe if you have no TV but you own a PC the BBC is trying too make it legal that you need a licence, on the grounds you can watch the BBC on the internet.
Narcosis
10-25-06, 02:55 PM
I do believe if you have no TV but you own a PC the BBC is trying too make it legal that you need a licence, on the grounds you can watch the BBC on the internet.
That is actually in effect now.
Proof:
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp
The Anti TV licence resistance
http://www.tvlicensing.biz/
http://www.marmalade.net/lime/#people
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