French Police attacked by youths

[Yahoshua]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061022/ap_on_re_eu/france_suburban_violence;_ylt=ApA8kEOWsuoQqk7.mNZy RY1vaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

[TteFAboB]

Third in a row?

I suppose this is the future of Berlin and Londonistan. The education system does squat while they're kiddies (either the uneducating regular school or the radicalizing Muslim school), then there's the only familiar example, the older brother who's in the Gang. Comes in the instigator to unleash them and things start burning and people start getting hurt or killed and you have areas out of control where they can make their own rules and laws and enforce it themselves.

How to stop this madness?

Arrest them all, deport them all.

[ASWnut101]

deport them all.


To where though? that is the question:know:

[snowsub]

Put them all on a ship, take it to the middle of the south atlantic and set it adrift ;)

[ASWnut101]

hmm, nice idea.

I was just thinking to put them in Antarctica.

[Yahoshua]

I'm wondering if the Russian government wants to re-colonize the steppes again......

[Skybird]

Old news.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=99520

[Yahoshua]

<------ Victim of recycling.

[Rockstar]

Europe is asleep, afraid of the past world war II and it's atrocities. Afraid they might do it again, even afraid to take up arms in self defence, they will do nothing. Yep, nothing better to do than follow the diversion of their leaders and complain about what everyone in the world is or is not doing. Meanwhile europe you are slowly but most assuredly being overrun by Islam. Look at immigration and birth rates of muslim families. Soon you will have a new law (Shri'a Law) and time (Islamic calander).

[Skybird]

CSS - Collective Stockholm Syndrom, Rockstar.

I just have finished reading a book about europe and Germany capitulating. At the end it was suggested that we should follow a 30 years old example set up by some Danish man back then: dismantle our military and leave the defense minstry simply to a single telephone answering machine with the following message "We surrender." The Dane back then wanted it to be said in Russian. Today it is recommended to say it in Arabic.

If your kids ever wanted to visit and see the dome in Cologne and the paintings in the Louvre, tell them to do it now. When they are old and grey I am not so sure they could do it anymore.

[HunterICX]

:shifty: We have invented an new weapon

We Talk with the criminals. we have to respect what they have to say and because maybe they had a bad childhood.

ow and when he kills someone....lets see if something is wrong in his mind
OFCOURSE something wrong in his head or else he would raped that old women and killed her afterwards and they hide the body cutted up in parts in the river.

Criminals should be locked up with no further investigation to see if something is wrong in his head. if you got solid proof that he raped that kid and killed it afterward lock him up for 30 yrs ...that son of a bitch robbed the life of that inocent kid he shouldnt be let free...but no we love to see what is troubling his mind...aw poor guy so ur daddy beaten you up with the belt because you set the neighbours cat on fire.

and now...because we show other that we are no hard people they abuse our law system! they acuse Police officerer because of the hard treatement...the police officer loses his job. because the criminal was robbing and he got caught and he forced the criminal to the ground and by accident his head hits the ground a bit too hard...ow poor criminal he could get some brain damage...and they acuse the police officer forcing him into court and the criminal wins!

in france, well I dont really know the law system there, but what I have seen on TV especialy about those immigrants burning cars and having an rampage throught city's around paris...Well I had to think of an solution, I would use heavy force.. non lethal weapons on an massive rate...water tanks, rubber bullets , sting grenades, gas them out. clean the city's, and I wouldnt stop till the last maniac have been wiped of the streets. Ow and if they kill/or critical wound 1 officer I would go even harder...every monkey I picked up is 1 monkey less in france . back to ur own country (that must answer the question , where they go?)

if you want to solve the criminal rates , for starters ''Give the police back their RIGHTS!'' let them be protected by law! In spain that is still on
you could get an kick under the ass if you, if you insult an police officer.
if you break the law by robbing in an Supermarket, well if you get cauhgt once...you are going to think better no to do that again!.

[Skybird]

It is not only something like Stockholm Syndrome, it has also something to do with the overboarding ruling of psychological and especially sociological dogmas in our societies. And I know what I am talking baout, having been a psychologist myself and also having logged three semesters of sociology.

You know this old saying: if your only tool is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. Sociology's dogma is that it is always the community that is responsible for people going wrong. Bad social influence here, bad childhood there, the explanations are endless. Our societies are soaking with this thinking pattern: to turn things for the better, we must change society. Society must embrace criminals. Immigrants. Islamists. Terrorists. People with a migration background (one of sociologist's darlings). By that, sociologist earn money for projects. Can have academical careers. Can publish analysis and earn fame, reputation. Can appear in TV shows. a whole industry of professional "understanders" of everything has emerged over the years, and extremely high material interests are at stake for this industry that depends on "it's alwys the society's fault/responsebility".

Remove this thinking dogma and start thinking that integration is a migrant's repsonebility, and that a burning and vandalizing thug is not a victim of his migrational background and a victim of society not "understanding" him enough and not being empathic enough - and many professional social workers, social examiners and social analysts immediately would be loosing their jobs. Bitter, but true. If it would not cause so incredibly massive damage to our societies, one would be able to laugh about it.

with psychology, it is not much different, though the focus is somwhat shifted from society to an individual's past biography. I quit psychology for very practical reasons that had to do with money and job perspectives and incompatability of my thinking with institution's thinking, but I would be lying if saying that I was not glad to quit it, for exactly these reason of egoist thinking dogmas overturning public opinion building and dominating inner political decision building. The growing PC madness also is linked to this.

It is often said that we have too little psychology and sociocolgy in economy, administration, and on communal levels of all kind. But I say we already have far too much of both, and it does very hurting damage to our culture.

Needless to say that most of my former colleagues hate me. :D

[tycho102]

Arrest them all, deport them all.

Their economy will go under, same way it is with our Mexicans. Their arabs keep cheese and wine prices low, our Mexicans keep Walmart prices low.

Personally, I am prepared to pay more at the store in exchange for a secure border and our immigration laws enforced. I just don't think the majority of French are ready for that. Most of them leave France to "make their money", then slide back into the country to live off the socialized structure.

The system is established.

[The Avon Lady]

Most likely the latest victim (http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2006/10/obviously-not-lost-in-taxi.html). :yep:

[Rockstar]

Funny I was thinking Global Stockholm Syndrome too! Part of the article I have read:

Many psychologists have made the observation that equate the behavior of victims of terrorism or other abuses with the behavior of those captives who have come to define the Stockholm Syndrome. The comparisons are quite fascinating as they relate to our discussion. In an article entitled The Stockholm Syndrome: Not Just For Hostages, we read:
The Stockholm Syndrome is an emotional attachment, a bond of interdependence between captive and captor that develops 'when someone threatens your life, deliberates, and doesn't kill you.'… The relief resulting from the removal of the threat of death generates intense feelings of gratitude and fear which combine to make the captive reluctant to display negative feelings toward the captor or terrorist. "The victims' need to survive is stronger than his impulse to hate the person who has created his dilemma."… The victim comes to see the captor as a 'good guy', even a savior.

Should we be surprised then that the Stockholm Syndrome is at work in the terrorism plagued nation of Israel? George E. Rubin, in Commentary Magazine, May 2000 sees symptoms of the Stockholm Syndrome abundant among many in Israel:
After 50 years of unending conflict, most Israeli Jews seem to have concluded that the burden of maintaining their nation is just too difficult to bear. The country's secular leftist elites--who control education, culture, the news media, and the government--blame the Jews for the Arabs' desire to destroy Israel, and the majority seems to be afflicted with the "Stockholm syndrome": though the victims of Arab hate, they identify with their oppressors.

Rubin is not alone in this observation. Aharon Megged, an Israeli novelist mirrors Rubins comments:

We have witnessed a phenomenon which probably has no parallel in history; an emotional and moral identification by the majority of Israel's intelligentsia with people openly committed to our annihilation.

Even as psychologists and intellectuals have observed the Stockholm Syndrome present among victims of Islamic terrorism in Israel and elsewhere. The Tormentor will become the Savior.

The same can be said of Europe today and the U.S. following close behind.

[The Avon Lady]

Should we be surprised then that the Stockholm Syndrome is at work in the terrorism plagued nation of Israel? George E. Rubin, in Commentary Magazine, May 2000 sees symptoms of the Stockholm Syndrome abundant among many in Israel:
After 50 years of unending conflict, most Israeli Jews seem to have concluded that the burden of maintaining their nation is just too difficult to bear. The country's secular leftist elites--who control education, culture, the news media, and the government--blame the Jews for the Arabs' desire to destroy Israel, and the majority seems to be afflicted with the "Stockholm syndrome": though the victims of Arab hate, they identify with their oppressors.

Rubin is not alone in this observation. Aharon Megged, an Israeli novelist mirrors Rubins comments:

We have witnessed a phenomenon which probably has no parallel in history; an emotional and moral identification by the majority of Israel's intelligentsia with people openly committed to our annihilation.
Our problem here in Israel has also been compared to another similar syndrome (http://www.israelinsider.com/views/articles/views_0101.htm). The article was written in 2001 and it still hits the nail on the head.