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Goat
10-20-06, 02:38 PM
I don't find all the British ships in the Manual. At least not the Civilian Cargo Ships.
Is there some reason for a SHIII / 1.04b / GW game to NOT show them??? I couldn't even THROW a gob of diesel rag at the ship...without ID, range, etc... in High Realism.

bigboywooly
10-20-06, 02:44 PM
Ummm what ship ?
IIRC all cargo ships show in the manual automatically unless there isnt a .sil for the ship in question

Coda
10-20-06, 02:51 PM
In mine I never see any civilian ships, only military ships. Any nation.

(when using 1.4b and gw1.1a)

Goat
10-20-06, 02:57 PM
Yeaaaa... Coda. I got so close I could spit on their deck... I ***KNOW*** that was a Brit flag. I seem to recall from the Naval Academy that this was a 'coastal freighter'. I know for sure it wasn't a 'C2'... and I'd guess there are a lot of those around?

I wonder if there is a part of The Manual that you can't see without somehow dragging it somewhere?

How the heck can you set up for a shot if you can't I.D. and get distance, draft, etc ??

Albrecht Von Hesse
10-20-06, 03:18 PM
Yeaaaa... Coda. I got so close I could spit on their deck... I ***KNOW*** that was a Brit flag. I seem to recall from the Naval Academy that this was a 'coastal freighter'. I know for sure it wasn't a 'C2'... and I'd guess there are a lot of those around?

I wonder if there is a part of The Manual that you can't see without somehow dragging it somewhere?

How the heck can you set up for a shot if you can't I.D. and get distance, draft, etc ??

Two things: one, if you click on 'ship' at the upper left of the notepad, that will automatically open the recognition manual to the correct ship type/class. Secondly, the merchants aren't found under their nationality, but under the heading for merchants (I don't remember how that is spelled a-la-Duetche). Regardless of the nationality, you'll find the merchants only in the merchant section of the manual.

Goat
10-20-06, 03:21 PM
GOT IT!!! Thanks to that Ravishing Beauty, 'Avon Lady' ... if indeed Avon Lady *IS* a lady ...

Check it out... in the Rec Manual you will sooner or later find "HANDELSSCHIFFE"....
which apparently is Deutch for 'merchant ships'.

I would never have found that as I am only fluent in three (3) languages : English, Filthy and Obscene...

Thank you, 'Ma'am'

Goat
10-20-06, 03:23 PM
Dunno 'bout that... I clicked on 'ship' on the notepad... and.. nothing happened. Maybe the ship was too far away for even Notepad to I.D. it ??

Dantenoc
10-20-06, 03:27 PM
Edit: answer already given, no need to repeat it

Albrecht Von Hesse
10-20-06, 03:27 PM
Dunno 'bout that... I clicked on 'ship' on the notepad... and.. nothing happened. Maybe the ship was too far away for even Notepad to I.D. it ??

You need to be locked onto it I believe.

AVGWarhawk
10-20-06, 03:42 PM
GOT IT!!! Thanks to that Ravishing Beauty, 'Avon Lady' ... if indeed Avon Lady *IS* a lady ...

Check it out... in the Rec Manual you will sooner or later find "HANDELSSCHIFFE"....
which apparently is Deutch for 'merchant ships'.

I would never have found that as I am only fluent in three (3) languages : English, Filthy and Obscene...

Thank you, 'Ma'am'

Avon Lady is a Lady. Or where you just joking?;)

Goat
10-20-06, 04:55 PM
These days ??? With the Internet... I wouldn't be shocked to find 'Avon Lady' to be a One Horned Flying Purple People Eater ! But I'm very happy to hear she IS a lady !

P_Funk
10-20-06, 05:18 PM
Dunno 'bout that... I clicked on 'ship' on the notepad... and.. nothing happened. Maybe the ship was too far away for even Notepad to I.D. it ??
The ship must be under your crosshairs and also you must have auto ship recognition enabled. If you use Grey Wolves during install it has an option which makes it so that when you point your scope at a ship the ship's type is no longer displayed. I believe it's called Generic Ship Names. If you selected that when installing GW then clicking the "ship" heading on the notepad won't work.

Goat
10-20-06, 05:48 PM
"Auto Ship Recognition" ??? I'm running GW 1.1.... but nothing installed except the Basic Files. I sure don't recall seeing " Auto Ship Recognition " anywhere. I guess I'll just have to get out there amongst 'em and try again.

Coda
10-20-06, 05:53 PM
thanks, I learned something new.

Dantenoc
10-20-06, 11:21 PM
These days ??? With the Internet... I wouldn't be shocked to find 'Avon Lady' to be a One Horned Flying Purple People Eater ! But I'm very happy to hear she IS a lady !

:rotfl: I'd forgotten about that song hahaha... good times :yep:

" it was a One eyed, one horned, blind purple people eater,
One eyed, one horned, blind purple people eater,
One eyed, one horned, blind purple people eater,
Sure looked mean to me "

P_Funk
10-20-06, 11:37 PM
"Auto Ship Recognition" ??? I'm running GW 1.1.... but nothing installed except the Basic Files. I sure don't recall seeing " Auto Ship Recognition " anywhere. I guess I'll just have to get out there amongst 'em and try again.
That's not a mod option. It's a standard Vanilla game setting. The mod removes the periscope's ability to determine the ship's type just by looking at it if you select generic ship names. Instead of a T2 it's a Tanker.

FIREWALL
10-21-06, 02:07 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: These days ??? With the Internet... I wouldn't be shocked to find 'Avon Lady' to be a One Horned Flying Purple People Eater ! But I'm very happy to hear she IS a lady !

Goat
10-21-06, 08:12 AM
Some of Youse Bums are more 'experienced' than I thought...;)

By the way, I have a decent collection of 45's and recent collections of stuff from the early 50's.. which I put on CD's. 'Happy Times'...at least a whole lot less complicated, right ? Hey! 20 cent a gallon gas and Chevvy Six's with split manifolds. Twin Racoon tails and High Compression Hub Caps...:lol:

Sailor Steve
10-21-06, 11:03 AM
"Auto Ship Recognition" ??? I'm running GW 1.1.... but nothing installed except the Basic Files. I sure don't recall seeing " Auto Ship Recognition " anywhere. I guess I'll just have to get out there amongst 'em and try again.
I have "Auto Ship Recognition" disabled, but "Weapons Officer Assistance" is enabled. If I ask the WO for the ID, the 'auto ship finder' then works.

Sawdust
10-21-06, 02:44 PM
FWIW, in the stock game, you can manually ID ships, even with the higher realism settings.

Click on the checkbox (the empty white box) in the recognition manual for the ship that you'd like to identify and its name will appear on the notepad (as the ship-type whose page you were viewing). Then you can later click on the word "ship" on the notepad to jump to the appropriate page in the recognition manual (which might be helpful if you'd since changed pages). This let's you keep track of ship types in a convoy, for example, when you might want to ID several ships and then come back to them for targetting.