View Full Version : Germany: Ban those swastikas...!
Skybird
10-18-06, 03:29 PM
http://www.welt.de/data/2006/10/18/1076960.html
A fashion-catalogue by Esprit (male and female fashion) showed photographs of a jacket in a way that the pattern on the English-made leather bottons used on it (I know them since my childhood, and so do you, for they are in wide-spread use since DECADES) eventually, maybe, possibly could be interpreted as swastikas. After receiving some complaints, they have withdrawn the complete edition of 200.000 pieces from the market. Nevertheless the state attorney in Düsseldorf is thinking about starting of preliminary proceedings on the ground of "use of unconstitutional symbols".
:doh:
Man kann's auch übertreiben, oder...? Imagine four squares arranged in a 2x2 design - and you have your swastika. And those squared exercise booklets I have used in school - do they mean teachers have taught me Nazi-mathematics?
I have been staring at that button for a full 5 minutes and I can't find anything with even a remote resemblence to the Swastika. Nutters...
SUBMAN1
10-18-06, 03:57 PM
I can make out what might resemble a swastika (If i try real hard), but this is ridiculous!
-S
ASWnut101
10-18-06, 04:10 PM
yes, but you can only see it if you try. the extra lines make it not a s-tika
Omg, that is bullpoo! :nope:
Please pardon my ignorance, but I would like to ask;
I thought it was against the law to display a swastika only if it related to Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ?
Is it against the law to display any form of it in Germany?
It was used in many forms throughout history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Are all of the depictions banned?
About this specific instance, this is just stupid. Does anyone really think these were meant to be "swastika" buttons?
Does anyone really think that the company inended to portray this or try to sell it as such?
The Avon Lady
10-18-06, 05:15 PM
This is ridiculous!
In today's Germany, the Nazis have been replaced by the nutsies. :88)
HunterICX
10-18-06, 05:30 PM
:damn: :damn: :damn: :damn: :damn: :damn:
HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SO STUPID!!!! O MY GOD Thats even worse then the article about the newsreader with the cross on her neck that was insulting for those muslimos.
Give me a gun i,m going to shoot that bastard
really , is there an Expert in bottons that said one day ''OMG!!! this one looks like the swatsika....'' hey the next time he's going to find one with an hitler face pattern on it...hell will break lose
TteFAboB
10-18-06, 05:37 PM
How clever.
The idea is to take down intentional swastikas, right? This is so subtle not even neo-Nazis thought about wearing things like this.
That's a very poor excuse of a swastika anyway. The Pure Race should be able to draw straight lines in proper form. This is of sub-standard quality, typical of the lesser 'men'. To the incinerator with the stylist!
Skybird
10-18-06, 07:52 PM
My chessboard is filled with swastikas. I really should become tolerant and show my anti-racism by stopping to play chess. It's a Nazi game.
Phantom II
10-18-06, 10:07 PM
I have no problem seeing the swastika in the button, but for heaven's sake, that is going too far. You have to actually be looking for swastikas to even be able to see it. But seriously, its just a button, a BUTTON...
The Avon Lady
10-19-06, 12:47 AM
My chessboard is filled with swastikas.
http://photos.yafro.com/pics3/i/20050303/01/5/5/2/55260fca465ae7440c697ae4d1e14fc80_full.jpg
:p
HunterICX
10-19-06, 05:21 AM
My chessboard is filled with swastikas.
http://photos.yafro.com/pics3/i/20050303/01/5/5/2/55260fca465ae7440c697ae4d1e14fc80_full.jpg
:p
:lol: That is a good example...hahahah nice find Avon Lady.
Talk about being crass.
It's a button based on one of ours, mind you I haven't seen that design for awhile. :hmm:
kiwi_2005
10-19-06, 05:32 AM
Total Paranioa!
Its a button nothing else! :rotfl:
Konovalov
10-19-06, 07:12 AM
Just plain ridiculous really. I don't know what else to say. :nope:
Perhaps this is a conspiracy by special interest groups aligned to the zipper making industry. It could be a bid to put remove buttons completely out of the market and so to allow the zipper companies to have a total monopoly on the fasteners business. Crazy I know, but no more crazy than this whole swastika/button fuhrer, ahh I mean furor. :-j :-j
The Avon Lady
10-19-06, 07:20 AM
It could be a bid to put remove buttons completely out of the market and so to allow the zipper companies to have a total monopoly on the fasteners business.
Legislation on the fly? :hmm:
talk about fiddling whilst rome burns...
they are a very traditional button design it seems to me..when i was growing up you couldn't move for clothes with exactly that style of brown leather button...
say tho...some body tell the muslims..if you look you can see that there are cube like shapes emblazoned all over the design....
VipertheSniper
10-19-06, 07:56 AM
talk about fiddling whilst rome burns...
they are a very traditional button design it seems to me..when i was growing up you couldn't move for clothes with exactly that style of brown leather button...
say tho...some body tell the muslims..if you look you can see that there are cube like shapes emblazoned all over the design....
cube like shapes? I guess cubes don't have straight sides then ;) ?
When I read about this in the videotext of our TV-station I thought, that they had the swastika embossed on their buttons, like clearly identifyable swastikas, but this is just much ado about nothing.
Looks like a football to me. Does that mean a ban on footballs as well? OMG
Gizzmoe
10-19-06, 08:30 AM
"Express", Germany´s second-worst tabloid, shows a photograph where you can clearly see the swastika:
http://www.express.de/servlet/Satellite?pagename=XP/popup_image&bildid=1095252862&pageid=1006361736967&ressort=100&rubrik=269
:88)
HunterICX
10-19-06, 11:02 AM
"Express", Germany´s second-worst tabloid, shows a photograph where you can clearly see the swastika:
http://www.express.de/servlet/Satellite?pagename=XP/popup_image&bildid=1095252862&pageid=1006361736967&ressort=100&rubrik=269
:88)
:nope: I'll bet the guy who found this one out didnt had something better to do.
Gizzmoe
10-19-06, 11:15 AM
:nope: I'll bet the guy who found this one out didnt had something better to do.
The photo is by Johannes Galert, one of the newspapers´ photographers. I assume that he made it himself. He either found the "perfect" illumination so that they appear as swastikas or he photoshopped it.
maybe a better strategy might be to re-instate the original context for the swastika design...hold large public exhibitions of artifacts that show the symbol on ancient pottery etc etc..with a full and well publised explanation of the context the damn thing originaly had...this might disempower the fear... or maybe we are just too addicted to inconography to let it go?
Biggles
10-19-06, 11:48 AM
I see it, but sure wouldn't if noone pointed it out.
:nope: I'll bet the guy who found this one out didnt had something better to do.
The photo is by Johannes Galert, one of the newspapers´ photographers. I assume that he made it himself. He either found the "perfect" illumination so that they appear as swastikas or he photoshopped it.
As you say Gizzmoe most likely a spot of tampering. Not for the first time too sell a news paper.
Sulikate
10-19-06, 12:19 PM
This is ridiculous!
In today's Germany, the Nazis have been replaced by the nutsies. :88)
:rotfl:
SUBMAN1
10-19-06, 01:08 PM
This is ridiculous!
In today's Germany, the Nazis have been replaced by the nutsies. :88)
My sentiments exactly
Spoon 11th
10-19-06, 01:17 PM
Future EU flag:
http://www.taivaansusi.net/reich/aseet/banner.jpg
TteFAboB
10-19-06, 04:44 PM
The swastika on that photoshopped photo are inverted.
The Nazi Swastika looks like the one on the post above. The buttons only look like Nazi Swastikas if you look at them from a mirror.
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