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sonar732
10-17-06, 10:27 AM
Multiple news agencies have reported that NPKR has stepped up activity showing another test being prepared for. What's your take?
My boss was talking about this one today he believes we should bomb those commie b*****ds back to the stone age and then bomb the hell out of China. :eek:
I would like too point out he was is a very bad mood.
sonar732
10-17-06, 10:48 AM
I'm very concerned with this as it shows that he just doesn't care what the world thinks. What will the embargo or more sanctions do for this situation? Another thing to take into consideration is how China was opposed to boarding NPKR shipping with warships. Will this new test convince China that more needs to be done...just what is the question.
Also, please keep failed policy of this administration and prior administrations out of this discussion...we are focusing on the future handling of NPKR as it's evident both administrations failed in some way.
I'm scarring myself as I'm seeing the independant canidate coming thru.
The Avon Lady
10-17-06, 10:58 AM
Video: Mark Steyn on North Korea (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/16/video-mark-steyn-on-north-korea/)
fredbass
10-17-06, 11:09 AM
Nice video. Mark Steyn knows his stuff.
Can anyone sum up the video link, I gave up watching it due to constantly cutting out.
Skybird
10-17-06, 11:29 AM
All they want is direct talks between the US an NK. I wonder why it is such a festish for the US not to do that. It appears to me as if it would be the most reasonable thing to do. Hell, enemy sides talk to each other even during wars.
Who is winning and loosing what:
the US: during the nineties, especially the S-Korean young ones had growing antipathy against the ongoing presence of US troops in S-Korea. the total rejection of negotiations has led the N-Koreans to loose their mind - a threat that know produces a shift in S-Korean opinion that it now is far more favourable again towards US troops in the country. Good for the US.
China: they have lost a lot of influence on the N-Koreans, still deliver them the food supplies so that people still live a miserable life, but currnetly do longer die during the winters. Chinese policy has lost it's face, and a good ammount of options to act. strategical gains for the US at the cost of the Chinese.
Japan: will be tempted more and more to develope it's own nukes. In the region it is often said that they already are a nuclear power, in the meaning of that an extreme hightech nation like them (as well as other high-developed Western nations) would only need 2-3 months to field their self-developed nuclear weapons. Strategical gains for Japan, the US, losses for China and Russia. I think it is possible that they already have deployed operational nuclear weapons.
We all: feeling and essentialy being strnagled, n-Korea has no other choice than to sell nuclear weapon tech to make some money. forget non-proliferation. Nukes will spread, forst in that region, than beyond. Evern Europe will get it's own nuclear weapons within a forseeable time-frame (not only the French and British ones). No winners, only loosers.
tycho102
10-17-06, 02:34 PM
What is next?
Surrender. Just surrender and go back to the fashion show. Too many more important things to be worrying about.
Hylander_1314
10-17-06, 07:46 PM
Steed,
We can't bomb them back to the stoneage. Their Leader(s) already have them living like that anyway. The population wouldn't know any real difference.
ASWnut101
10-17-06, 07:49 PM
lets bomb them to the....ice age! then.
I say bring it on.
The US and UN should get China to invade NK, kill Kim Il Dong, and set up a better government. Problem solved.
Skybird
10-17-06, 09:01 PM
That superior logic is really enlightening.
IceGrog
10-17-06, 10:57 PM
The US and UN should get China to invade NK, kill Kim Il Dong, and set up a better government. Problem solved.
would be nice,,,,,,,,,but i don't think they will
TteFAboB
10-18-06, 12:00 AM
Hehe, it will be a little difficult to sell that one to China. :lol:
They'll take anything from us. Our money, our jobs, our economy, our richness, our investments, our choice.
Here's an idea, tell them Europe is making a massive investment along with the US in North Korea. Tell them we're off-shoring our money-vineyard fields there. Then you bet they'll invade and take over the place. :smug:
So easy to solve the world's problems here at Subsim. :up: :yep: :rock:
The Avon Lady
10-18-06, 12:33 AM
Relevant headlines:
China refuses to search North Korean ships (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159193465623&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)
Defector: Sanctions won't hurt N. Korea (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061018/ap_on_re_as/koreas_top_defector_2;_ylt=AibAoslXBJXipZsbSlX7ww. CscEA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl), which states "Hwang said China is key to bringing an end to Kim's regime."
Which means back to the drawing board.
bookworm_020
10-18-06, 01:01 AM
All I know is it's going to be messy.:-? I tink the only way it's going to be solved is the removal of Kim Jong Il, but that won't be easy.
The Avon Lady
10-18-06, 04:17 AM
NK's propaganda art department hard at work (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/10/lil_kims_north.html).
Steed,
We can't bomb them back to the stoneage. Their Leader(s) already have them living like that anyway. The population wouldn't know any real difference.
Cheers.
I shall tell the boss that one.
UPDATE
He told me stop being cocker hoot.
We have to read China's hidden agenda. :hmm:
All they want is direct talks between the US an NK. I wonder why it is such a festish for the US not to do that. It appears to me as if it would be the most reasonable thing to do. Hell, enemy sides talk to each other even during wars.
I think you answer your own question in the rest of your post. Negotiations have to include all six nations, especially the S. Koreans and the Chinese, or they are a waste of time since any agreement would first need their blessing as well.
I have to wonder why N. Korea is so opposed to that...
Marcantilan
10-18-06, 09:36 AM
But look at his smile, how could he be a bad guy??
He´s a Michael Jackson fan after all...
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/dictators/kim-jong-il/kim_jong_il_smile.jpg
Konovalov
10-18-06, 10:49 AM
I thought that he was a big Elvis Presley fan? :hmm:
The Avon Lady
10-18-06, 11:07 AM
I thought that he was a big Elvis Presley fan? :hmm:
I thought he WAS Elvis! :88)
Konovalov
10-18-06, 11:09 AM
You mean to tell me that the King is not dead?
Breaking news! Elvis Presley faked his own death, defected to the DPRK and became the 'Dear Leader.' :lol:
The Avon Lady
10-18-06, 11:16 AM
You mean to tell me that the King is not dead?
Breaking news! Elvis Presley faked his own death, defected to the DPRK and became the 'Dear Leader.' :lol:
Lil' Kim = Elvis :o :o :o
You mean to tell me that the King is not dead?
Breaking news! Elvis Presley faked his own death, defected to the DPRK and became the 'Dear Leader.' :lol: Lil' Kim = Elvis :o :o :o
That solves everything. We don't need to nuke him, just drug him.
sonar732
10-18-06, 11:33 AM
You mean to tell me that the King is not dead?
Breaking news! Elvis Presley faked his own death, defected to the DPRK and became the 'Dear Leader.' :lol: Lil' Kim = Elvis :o :o :o
That solves everything. We don't need to nuke him, just drug him.
Nah...place a fried peanut butter and banana sadwich in front of him as bargining chip. :rotfl::rotfl:
MadMike
10-18-06, 01:36 PM
Don't be surprised if upcoming N. Korean tests are substantially higher than the purported "fizzle"...
Yours, Mike
I thought that he was a big Elvis Presley fan? :hmm:
I thought he WAS Elvis! :88)
He is. ;)
Marcantilan
10-18-06, 03:02 PM
Another, this one with the guys, sure after an all night parranda.
As you see, (as I posted before) he has a beautiful smile for the ladies, but a bad attitude too.
Sure he was the quarterback back in the High School or something like that.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,607357,00.jpg
Yahoshua
10-18-06, 06:31 PM
The man redefines "Ugly."
And I think you guys should have a look at this (45 min. long)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6951629397402742053
sonar732
10-18-06, 07:21 PM
U.S. Tells NPKR Full Military Range of Military Might (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061018/ts_afp/nkoreanuclearweapons_061018220559;_ylt=Aq.B0XIf1xs gqeEwKsD56IiCscEA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVR PUCUl)
Another, this one with the guys, sure after an all night parranda.
As you see, (as I posted before) he has a beautiful smile for the ladies, but a bad attitude too.
Sure he was the quarterback back in the High School or something like that.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,607357,00.jpg
Is he wearing a different coloured outfit because he's in goal? :arrgh!:
He was going to do the flightsuit on the aircraft carrier thing..... be he doesn't have one.
Yahoshua
10-18-06, 07:56 PM
Article from South Korea
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2006/10/19/200610190030.asp
sonar732
10-18-06, 10:14 PM
That was a good article since it looks at the Korean Administrations and not American. :up:
And I think you guys should have a look at this (45 min. long)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6951629397402742053
That was a good program. However, I found this one much more informative on the history and events that lead to the current situation. This one is definitely worth a view also.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3787046457101273554
bookworm_020
10-18-06, 11:35 PM
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,607357,00.jpg
He the fattest one in the picture. Whatever happens in North Korea, people are going to die, if not from war, then starvation, torture and disease brough on by this guy.
It's just a question of how many, before this guy is through, either dead from natural causes or other means.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,607357,00.jpg
Spot the madman competition 2006.
The Avon Lady
10-19-06, 05:35 AM
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,607357,00.jpg
Spot the madman competition 2006.
Or the communist edition of "Where's Waldo?". :doh:
SkvyWvr
10-19-06, 11:18 AM
My boss was talking about this one today he believes we should bomb those commie b*****ds back to the stone age and then bomb the hell out of China. :eek:
I would like too point out he was is a very bad mood.
Can you forward my resume to your boss?:up:
SkvyWvr
10-19-06, 11:21 AM
All they want is direct talks between the US an NK. I wonder why it is such a festish for the US not to do that. It appears to me as if it would be the most reasonable thing to do. Hell, enemy sides talk to each other even during wars.
The six party talks involve the nations in the region that stand the most to lose from NK's actions.
Yahoshua
10-19-06, 06:21 PM
Watching that vid you posted Coda.......I'm suprised these experts are so good at pointing out the obvious.
"There is no dissension or visible dislike of KJI"
(Gee, did we see much of the same under Soviet Russia?)
But other than that it's a good vid.
After watching it, I changed my opinion.
I think a good answer for the situation would be re-unification with the south, phased in over a period of time that both sides would be comfortable with. But as a couple people said, that probably can't happen until the "Korean War Generation" has passed.
Yahoshua
10-19-06, 06:52 PM
Even when that generation is gone, would one system be willing to lie down and give up?
Not without some form of conflict.
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