View Full Version : How will changing demography change american policies?
Skybird
10-14-06, 09:39 AM
Anyone some ideas? :D I certainly can imagine quite some changes... A German columnist wrote yesterday: "1917 president Roosevelt said: we must have one flag and talk in one language. - 2006 President Bush holds speeches in English and Spanish."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1921310,00.html
Happy Times
10-14-06, 09:52 AM
They will probably have another civil war.
Skybird
10-14-06, 09:59 AM
No, don'T think so, but the White Man'S America definetly is in open retreat, and policies and elected politician's names and thinking will reflect that. Focus of attention will shift in many different areas.
The Noob
10-14-06, 10:05 AM
Well, one thing i hope for is that they will stop to send Military in forgin countrys and stay at home. A thing the Democrats would do, i think.
Happy Times
10-14-06, 10:06 AM
No, don'T think so, but the White Man'S America definetly is in open retreat, and policies and elected politician's names and thinking will reflect that. Focus of attention will shift in many different areas. I dont see the traditional white picket fence America giving up on what they feel is their America, without a fight atleast, as i implied.
Happy Times
10-14-06, 10:07 AM
Well, one thing i hope for is that they will stop to send Military in forgin countrys and stay at home. A thing the Democrats would do, i think. Yeah, sure, dream on.
The Noob
10-14-06, 10:19 AM
Well, one thing i hope for is that they will stop to send Military in forgin countrys and stay at home. A thing the Democrats would do, i think. Yeah, sure, dream on.
You are the one who is dreaming here. But i already ponited this out serval times to serval people, wich makes no reason at all. Because it don't changes anything.
Happy Times
10-14-06, 10:38 AM
Well, one thing i hope for is that they will stop to send Military in forgin countrys and stay at home. A thing the Democrats would do, i think. Yeah, sure, dream on.
You are the one who is dreaming here. But i already ponited this out serval times to serval people, wich makes no reason at all. Because it don't changes anything. Just as i can say your living in a pink bubble and you are pissed when people are constantly breaking it. Lallllalalalaaalaalalalalalala hands over ears....:dead:
America was an isolationist country until WWII.
I wish it would go back to being one again. They give away hundreds of billions every year in aid to countries around the world, while people at home are starving and homeless.
The Noob
10-14-06, 11:53 AM
I am not living in a bubble. And even if, it's not pink. Pink is gay. You are making me pissed with assuming such bullsh** about me.
I am not living in a ****ing gay pink bubble, goddamnit!
I live in the same damn world just like you, my views are only different. And you have a problem with that. And then you pull the "Pink Bubble" card.
Very intelligent. (Sarcasm!)
You are holding your hands over your ears when anything unpleasant and anti-*whateveryoubelievein* thing is spotted by you.
If you want to defend yourself, then build a huge fortress with massive defensive capabilitys, like anti-missile guns and all this muck, but stop defending by attacking.
Wait for the enemy to make the first shot. And don't say "they" did it with 9/11. That was a terrorist act. You can't bind it to a specific country. And whom you went after? Saddam. Ever heard of the baath (I don't give a whatever how it's spelled) party? He was a member in it, and ruler of iraq. He didn't even wanted that the radicals have too much power in the governement, because the ideology of his party had communistic elements, and one of them was the seperation of religion and governement. He was no communist and his governement, or dictatorship did suck, but that isn't the point.
The point is that USA blamed 9/11 on a specific country, wich is already crazy, and Bush attacked thw wrong country. A-F-G-A-N-I-S-T-A-N, thats where osama is, not I-R-A-Q! But of course bush couldn't do nothing, nor could do anything in Afganistan, since he needed to build a oil pipeline.
damn, now i again made this off-topic and started it all again...:damn:
Happy Times
10-14-06, 12:21 PM
I am not living in a bubble. And even if, it's not pink. Pink is gay. You are making me pissed with assuming such bullsh** about me.
I am not living in a ****ing gay pink bubble, goddamnit!
I live in the same damn world just like you, my views are only different. And you have a problem with that. And then you pull the "Pink Bubble" card.
Very intelligent. (Sarcasm!)
You are holding your hands over your ears when anything unpleasant and anti-*whateveryoubelievein* thing is spotted by you.
If you want to defend yourself, then build a huge fortress with massive defensive capabilitys, like anti-missile guns and all this muck, but stop defending by attacking.
Wait for the enemy to make the first shot. And don't say "they" did it with 9/11. That was a terrorist act. You can't bind it to a specific country. And whom you went after? Saddam. Ever heard of the baath (I don't give a whatever how it's spelled) party? He was a member in it, and ruler of iraq. He didn't even wanted that the radicals have too much power in the governement, because the ideology of his party had communistic elements, and one of them was the seperation of religion and governement. He was no communist and his governement, or dictatorship did suck, but that isn't the point.
The point is that USA blamed 9/11 on a specific country, wich is already crazy, and Bush attacked thw wrong country. A-F-G-A-N-I-S-T-A-N, thats where osama is, not I-R-A-Q! But of course bush couldn't do nothing, nor could do anything in Afganistan, since he needed to build a oil pipeline.
damn, now i again made this off-topic and started it all again...:damn: But you do belive in an ideal world that can be achieved trough socialism. I dont belive you are a communist ready to kill for that society, so i classified you a harmless pink idealist. Sometimes attack is the best defence, especially against ideologies that are openly out to get you. What do you suggest we wait? What constitutes a first shot? I would call 9/11 and other attacks an act of war, they do, why shouldnt i? Nothing to argue about Saddam, he wasnt a Jihadist but dont care what happens to him either. I have allways said that the true source of this Islamic terrorism is Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran.
Skybird
10-14-06, 12:45 PM
I have allways said that the true source of this Islamic terrorism is Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran.
And Marocco, believe it or not.
But would you mind if I remind both of you (Happy Times and Noob) that all this is not part of this topic...? Please don't go any further towards that personal one-on-one you are heading for.
Happy Times
10-14-06, 12:49 PM
I have allways said that the true source of this Islamic terrorism is Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran. And Marocco, believe it or not.
But would you mind if I remind both of you (Happy Times and Noob) that all this is not part of this topic...? Please don't go any further towards that personal one-on-one you are heading for. Roger that, and send me a link about Marocco, please.:cool:
ASWnut101
10-14-06, 12:56 PM
well, morrocco is largly islamic, but it also has alot of french.....interesting
Happy Times
10-14-06, 12:59 PM
well, morrocco is largly islamic, but it also has alot of french.....interesting What? :dead:
ASWnut101
10-14-06, 12:59 PM
yes?:hmm:
The Avon Lady
10-14-06, 01:02 PM
No, don'T think so, but the White Man'S America definetly is in open retreat
I don't care about white, black or anything in between but the capitulation on dual languages is annoying. It shouldn't be catered to.
The Noob
10-14-06, 01:02 PM
But you do belive in an ideal world that can be achieved trough socialism.
Yes i do.
I dont belive you are a communist ready to kill for that society, so i classified you a harmless pink idealist.
People of today are to dumb to understand it, but i am sure Socialism will win. It will be elected everyware, or archived by revolutions where the vast majority of people will take part in. It's starting now, and it will win in something like 30, 40 or 60 years. I know it, i can just wait and see.
Ready to kill? Not under such circumstances.
No currently availible country defends my ideals. Yes, i consider people like Fidel Castro as better than Mr. Bush, but still they are far away from begin the ideal deal.
So yes i am a harmless idealist. Who will, however, does what he can to spread his views. Without propaganda or force.
Sometimes attack is the best defence, especially against ideologies that are openly out to get you. What do you suggest we wait? What constitutes a first shot? I would call 9/11 and other attacks an act of war, they do, why shouldnt i?
Well, saddam, the one who you attacked, didn't. You just send the US Army after the wrong guy.
Nothing to argue about Saddam, he wasnt a Jihadist but dont care what happens to him either.
Well, i care what they do to him. He did many crimes, yes. But you attacked him for the reason of 9/11, wich he had no ties to. Now, where you already got him, and have not found any Weapons of mass destruction, you just say: "Anyway, he was a arse, so let's keep him". I just dislike this.
I have allways said that the true source of this Islamic terrorism is Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran.
Sounds like how it really is.
EDIT: Sorry skybird, i read your post just now. Sorry. Happy Times, if you want to continue this we can solve it over PM, if not, no problem either. I will just stop arsing up Skybirds thread with my crappy postings now.
Gizzmoe
10-14-06, 01:31 PM
EDIT: Sorry skybird, i read your post just now.
Nonsense, you didn´t need Skybird´s reminder to know that you were (again) posting OT. You are really an expert in that, that stops now!
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