PC madness, again from Britain: take care what you eat

[Skybird]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=DN4MHOV25IIFTQFIQMGSFGGAVCBQ WIV0?xml=/news/2006/10/14/nlunch14.xml

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[The Noob]

Oh. My. ****ing. God!

*Rants Away*

"Healty eating"? WTF?!?!!?

I never eat healthy, only eat fast-food pizza and stuff like this. Healthy Eating means eating things wich taste sucks.

Now they inspect lunch boxes? WTH?!

Healthy Eating. Theres not one more thing in my world wich SUCKS more. Sending kids to shool is like sending them into Concentration Camps.

STEED, join my Freedom for all anti PC Resistance Group now!

*Calms Down*

What are they going to do next? Forbid Wagner Steinofen Instant Pizza? Oh, wait...please don't say they already did! :dead:

[Happy Times]

It makes sense. The cost of ones unhealthy habits goes to the state. If fat people start to take up the real bill for what they eat they can continue killing themself by food.

[STEED]

A boy aged 10 has been banned from his school dining hall because his packed lunch broke the government's healthy eating guidelines.


This is only a guide line it is not law what the hell dose that school think it is doing? Well if that's there attitude they should put on the black uniform and goose step all over the place. The boy has not broken the law come on this is typical PC Madness by the school, what a bunch of clowns they are. :mad:

[The Noob]

I agree STEED. PC sucks. Hard. :up:

[Skybird]

Agreed, but enforcing cost reduction this way is ridiculous.

I works better like this: in Germany, there is one hospital where doctors refuse to do sugery on people with deseases caused by smoking, cancer for the most, if they do not stop smoking once and for all. Additionally, many think about making people paying for any medical treatment caused by smoking - why should the social insurance payers have to pay for the stupidity of the individual? Insurances should cover those cases were the individual is not responsible for a given damage or desease. But if it intentionally chooses to damage itself, why should the general public pay for that? Me personally does not want to pay for someone who first consumes poison, knowing that it is poison, and then getting ill and wanting to get doctor's wages and medication/surgery being payed by me and others. I also reject to pay for people getting themselves a tatoo (or getting it deleted). Help those that run into crisis or problems without it being their responsebility. Beyond that, if it is a consequence of intentional stupidity, make help a voluntary thing, leaving it to close friends and relatives for the main.

concerning food, knowledge is all. It is not by random the obesiety is spread so much amongst poor people and lower social classes. It is not so much about how much you eat, but what you eat. Unfortunately, cheap food is the most unhealthy, I would even say in same cases: most poisenous "food". People without education have good chances never to receive the needed knowledge to differ between healthy and unhealthy food. they simply trust in what commercials are telling them. Not to mention that they often do not have enough money to live by better food, which often is the more expensive one. so does that school have regular lessons on food theory and metabolistic functions? :hmm:

But state-controlling lunch.boxes like in this example is an education to obedience towards governmental auhority, and teaches a certain attitude of mind: that of unquestioned acceptance of institutional authority, and submitting to it and don't question that behavior. In other words: enforcement of PC again. that kid is taught only one thing: to behave in a certain manner. But he probably still does not know, why. He will either turn out to become an offender again, maybe later a full time-rebel, or he will become a streamlined "Duckmäuser" (moral coward) and always doing what the mass is doing.

[Gizzmoe]

Healthy Eating means eating things wich taste sucks.

Only if you don´t know how to cook.

[Coda]

In the US the ACLU ( http://www.aclu.org/ ) would have a field day with this.

Is there an organization like this one in the UK, devoted soley to protecting a persons rights and freedoms?

Governing the diet of a 10 year old goes way beyond normal.

The purpose of schools is to educate, not regulate.

[Happy Times]

But to my knowledge they are trying to also educate the students why they are pressing this healthier diet. Obesity is a bigger problem in Britain than in elsewhere in Europe. The reason is Britains large size of its lower class, uneducated people, as you mentioned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/dietfitness.html?in_article_id=301419&in_page_id=1798

[Happy Times]

In the US the ACLU ( http://www.aclu.org/ ) would have a field day with this.

Is there an organization like this one in the UK, devoted soley to protecting a persons rights and freedoms?

Governing the diet of a 10 year old goes way beyond normal.

The purpose of schools is to educate, not regulate. They are trying to educate healthy diet to growing children. They arent getting it from home. so they are doing even that for their parents, that are too lazy or ignorant to raise their children at all. This is a big problem here in Europe , only rights and freedoms, no responsibilities.

[STEED]

But to my knowledge they are trying to also educate the students why they are pressing this healthier diet. Obesity is a bigger problem in Britain than in elsewhere in Europe. The reason is Britain's large size of its lower class, uneducated people, as you mentioned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/dietfitness.html?in_article_id=301419&in_page_id=1798

Apart of the problem lays with this government which has failed this country, groups of people have given up all hope so they eat, smoke, drink themselves to death and take drugs. This government has stolen from us all here in the U.K. and messed up the pension system big time, we will all have to work on pass 70 years of age.

Don;t get me wrong, yes it's freedom of choice but when a government screws things up big time it effects the minds of the people. And what a great idea to deflect all the problems on to us while this government goes on screwing this country up by turning it in to a police state.

[The Noob]

Healthy Eating means eating things wich taste sucks.
Only if you don´t know how to cook.
So my Cooking skill is the thing that sucks...:hmm:

[Skybird]

So my Cooking skill is the thing that sucks...:hmm:

try chinese cooking. If you only have some ingreidents that are often used ready in the refrigerator of available, then many things in Chinese cooking can be done extremely easily and very quickly. Of course, you can make it complited, too, but there is little need to do so as long as you do not want to impress your date.

Another good choice for easy but tasty cooking is much that can be found in Italian cuisine.

And if everything fails: a medium steak with salt, black pepper and herb butter and nothing else still is one of my favourites :smug:

[TteFAboB]

They must've been waiting months for this. It sounds very premeditated.

You do not punish a kid for eating the wrong food if the kid doesn't know what's the alternative. It doesn't work that way, kids aren't seers, they can't guess what they were supposed to be eating instead. Since the kid was eating "unhealthy" food, then it is obvious that this kid doesn't know enough to make better choices. Why eat, how to eat and what to eat. Punishing a child who can't make a wise decision? That's why he isn't an adult, you know. This isn't education, it's called indoctrination.

But prohibition doesn't even work. It's the wrong message. The boy needs to be taught self-restraint, not have things outright forbidden from him. He must learn to choose and unless he wants to become a fat blob when he grows up he will choose better next time, though I defend his right to be a fat blob if so he desires as long as he stays clear of anything "public" and bears the responsibility of his decision. He can't be supervised everywhere he goes, he will stuff chocolate bars in his pants and eat them when nobody's watching, in the bathroom, haven't anyone thought of this?! Of course somebody did, so I suppose this is more about obedience than education.

Anyway More important than being able to choose "good" meals is being able to measure the size of your portions and eating just "enough" of whatever you're eating, that's the best way to start eating better. Sure you can have that box of Cheez-It for lunch if you can't help with it, but only 1/5 or 1/4 of the bag and granted you eat better in the following two meals, since you'll eat 5 or 6 times a day.

This kid will store his hunger and desire for "unhealthy" food inside himself and when he gets a window of opportunity to set it free he'll eat as he never ate before and stuff himself with more trash than if the school allowed him to have his small portions of tasty food, actually increasing the risk of diabetes.

Additionaly, some of us have tongues more sensitive than the rest of the people. We can feel the texture that you don't even know it's there, we can feel different tastes on the same food depending on which part of our tongue it touches. This makes us far more vulnerable to fats and high glycemic carbs because those taste better than anything else. It would be impossible to ban these from my diet, my desire for them would simply grow ever larger untill I couldn't control it anymore and had to have myself a 800kcal chocolate cake for lunch. How do I keep myself healthy then? Eating as best as I can during the week and giving myself more room to manouver during the weekend, without ever exaggerating. As you get used to more healthy meals than crappy ones you'll eventually realize that you can live with less carbs and lower levels of fat than you believe. And as you rake in the benefits of a healthy diet you will feel less attracted to bad foods and on the contrary start appreciating the healthy stuff. Alternatively, you can have a less healthy meal after every healthy meal you eat. Use your brain. Give yourself a completely free week to rest every now and then. How is this kid being taught any of this? How is he being taught to think for himself since he won't have people watching him all the time?

If this kid is one of us sensitive-tongued people, pitty to him. As if there weren't enough reasons for kids to stuff themselves with food, nobody who doesn't understand this will be able to help him. :nope:

[Happy Times]

So my Cooking skill is the thing that sucks...:hmm:
try chinese cooking. If you only have some ingreidents that are often used ready in the refrigerator of available, then many things in Chinese cooking can be done extremely easily and very quickly. Of course, you can make it complited, too, but there is little need to do so as long as you do not want to impress your date.

Another good choice for easy but tasty cooking is much that can be found in Italian cuisine.

And if everything fails: a medium steak with salt, black pepper and herb butter and nothing else still is one of my favourites :smug: Our tastes seem identical.

[Gizzmoe]

So my Cooking skill is the thing that sucks...:hmm:

Apparently... :) Learn the correct use of herbs and spices (no "Maggi Fix" or other nonsense), don´t overcook things. Practice! Please start a new thread if you have specific questions.

[SUBMAN1]

A boy aged 10 has been banned from his school dining hall because his packed lunch broke the government's healthy eating guidelines.


This is only a guide line it is not law what the hell dose that school think it is doing? Well if that's there attitude they should put on the black uniform and goose step all over the place. The boy has not broken the law come on this is typical PC Madness by the school, what a bunch of clowns they are. :mad:

Well, you know that I don't conform to PC very much. I could care less whos toes I step on. This is the biggest bunch of BS I have ever heard! Who is running this boys life? His parents who says he can have a biscuit too? Or the State?

As I said, watch the movie V

-S

[CB..]

here's a glorious bit of paranoia for you..ahem :smug:

allow the introduction of junk foods into the school canteens...
what child could resist chips and burgers with coca cola every day for lunch...i wouldn't have been able to resist i must admit

sit back and wait for ten years..

bingo generations of kids weaned onto junk food...

big fat thanks goes to the government from the fast food industry

now introduce laws that allow for the rationing of primary health-care to those classified as obese on the grounds that some procedures are less effective and or more risky for over weight members of the population..

introducing the public to the idea of health-care rationing and potentaily saving the NHS a lot of money in the process.. provide the people with a group of the population for whom it is now Politicaly Correct to deny the provision of services...

a Politicaly Correct society needs scape-goats in order to function.. ahem correctly.. you cannot restrict the populations natural instinctive reactions to things without providing them with an outlet for their residual resentments and frustration at being thus manipulated..

so here's the paranoia..
should be perfectly obvious by now that this was pre-planned and manipulated situation in order to create the bed rock for future genitic control of the poulation..


LOL.....:rotfl: :arrgh!:

[Coda]

If they want to educate then have them hold classes on health, eating healthy and avoiding food that is bad for you.

They can even decide on a menu to be served by the school cafeteria which excludes unhealthy food.

To regulate what a child brings to school in his/her own lunch, and suspend them for the food they eat, is beyond comprehension.

A school is an educational facility, they are not parents. It is the parents responsibility and decision. It is not up to the school to decide if the parent is failing a responsibility, that would be for a court of law to decide.



I think the administrators at this school are a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

[Hylander_1314]

Sounds like our cousins across the pond need to do what was done here 200 years ago, kick the bloody Redcoats out!

[Pants]

And the government is wondering why there is an increase of people leaving the UK...:hmm:
Not hard to figure out Labour :damn: