Good for you Jack Straw

[STEED]

Jack Straw in veil controversy

Big News Network.com
Thursday 5th October, 2006 (UPI)
British House of Commons leader Jack Straw has caused a stir by revealing that he asks Muslim women to show their faces at meetings in his office.[...]
http://www.britainnews.net/story/c9aafd91d73ba661


Full Story here http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/newsheadlines/display.var.954145.0.straw_in_plea_to_muslim_women _take_off_your_veils.php


Good for him at long last a Member of Parliment speaks out, hey if Jack Straw formed a new political party I may vote for it.

[Oberon]

It's good to see an MP sticking to his guns, instead of doing a 180 as soon as the media finds out.

[The Avon Lady]

Good for him at long last a Member of Parliment speaks out, hey if Jack Straw formed a new political party I may vote for it.
I suggest you look at a broader profile of Straw (http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=2&search=jack+straw), before getting too hopeful. :nope:

[Skybird]

Good for him at long last a Member of Parliment speaks out, hey if Jack Straw formed a new political party I may vote for it.

German saying: "one swallow doesn't yet make a summer." Also, his silence during the cartoon row was amongst the loudest. If I remember correctly he even recommended what effectively is self-censorship of Western newsmedias.

[STEED]

He could be waking up to whats going on, we hope. ;)

[Skybird]

Hope he does not stay alone with that.

http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=41106

Like I often say: politicians in Europe are way out of touch with reality and the opinion of the wide public.

[STEED]

Skybird, interesting read on that link lets hope we all see a change from our leaders. :up:

Bowing down back wards and offering them an inch and they take a mile lets hope our European leaders are waking up at long last.

[Oberon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/5414704.stm


Media's gonna love this one...

[joea]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/5414704.stm


Media's gonna love this one...

I'll bet that's what a lot of people here would secretly love to do. :nope:

[STEED]

I hear Jack Straw has gone further, the question will he stand tall or back down. :hmm:

[NEON DEON]

In the U.K., is it legal to mask your identity in public?

[STEED]

In CNN.com's own Quickvote on the subject, 78 percent said "yes" to the question: "Is Jack Straw right to say the wearing of veils by Muslim women makes community relations more difficult?"


Full artical. CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/07/uk.straw/index.html)

[ASWnut101]

who jack straw?:hmm:

[STEED]

who jack straw?:hmm:

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/_images/db/29/61/straw.296199.full.jpg

[Skybird]

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1890492,00.html

[Oberon]

And so the pack of jackals starts turning on itself. Labour self-destruct initiated....

[Narcosis]

The tyranny of political correctness has for years suppressed the qualms that many Britons have had about what was happening to our country. Radical imams were allowed to preach hatred while being funded with state benefits, but few dared to question such madness, let alone act against it.

Gradually, however, people are gaining the courage to defy the diktats of political correctness and to question the assumptions of what should be acceptable in Britain today.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/10/08/do0803.xml


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/08/nfaith08.xml

[Skybird]

There is a good news, too. The more impudent Islamic colonies in the West become in their demands and efforts to push the West towards Islamisation, the more people in the West become so pissed off that opinions are shifting and more unscrupulousness to resist even by non-pc means is emerging. The only question in the end will be about timing. Will such resistance and willingness bring up enough power and effect against Islam that it could be stopped and even driven back in the West, or will it reach that threshold too late? Usually i am pessimistic concerning Islamisation and EU laws and policies, but since months now I realise in private conversations with neighbours, ex-students of mine, colleagues at work, both sexes, all ages, a hardening determination to kick Islam - even by means that are no more congruent with laws anymore. More and more people seem to be fed off by it and realise what ideological monster it is that has been allowed into the land, and more and more people are totally pissed by Islam's impudent claim for all world, and Muslim's unwillingness to accept that they are just one voice in the choir and have to fit in, and more and more people are increasingly aggressive about Muslim inwillingness to get themselves integrate, but in fact display more and more determination not to integrate and instead stay for themselves and push their own habits and agendas.

Several months ago, in the warehouse where I do a part-time-job, I was confronted by a medieval appearance in a complete burkha-masking, and she behaved as if the store was hers. Like Jack Straw :) , I finally was so angry that I snapped at her quite aggressively and lectured her about her arrogance to openly offend local people and violate local traditions of what our culture considers to be even just a minimum of polite behavior - not to mask your face when talking to others - which send her into orbit, because she did not hide that she demanded me to submit to her cultural habits and traditons completely and that I should accept her ignoring my own home and culture. I ended by telling her that she either accepts local traditions and stops to demand that local cultures should change to make her feel at home like in her real home in Arabia, or should pack her suitcase and get out of Europe, I also told her that she may have a piece of paper with a stamp in it, but that her complete appearance, behavior and arguments make it very clear that she is not any German at all, and never will be that. Huh! Great mess, and a small crowd of people at the cash desk had stopped moving and listened instead. I am no good salesman, for I reject to sell myself to customers that do not behave politely nevertheless expect to be treated as if they are of Royal origin. My boss, a female and usually quite customer-oriented (we have many foreigners and especially Russian immigrants and Muslim people as customers) was called, and examined the situation - and then completly supported my stand and also confronted that masked women, and finally threw her out. I had not expected such action from her. She later told me that she has not lived and witnessed the East and the fall of the wall (she is from Dresden and experienced the Sovjet occupation and the GDR) just to get a taste of freedom and then see it beig sold out to Islam now. BTW, bystanders and customers witnessing the scene nodded heads in agreement and expressed their support after the women had been led out.

The warehouse detectives we have also for the most are coming from an agency that exclusively occupies immigrants from the ME. They are Turkish, Syrians, Iranians, Armeniens, and two of them that i know a little bit better fully agree that Islam in it's pure form is not compatabile with Western society and that we would be idiots if we accept it'S drives and claims. They repeatedly expressed they feel bad about how people from their original home countries behaved in Germany, they take it as a personal insult and made it clear they do not accept it. They also said that those of their customers (thiefs) they have the most trouble with and who behave the most arrogantly and aggressively, even violently, when being caught - are almost never the Germans, but Muslim immigrants. Their agency has made it a routine that thiefs are confronted by one detective alone only when it is apparently a native German or European - customers looking as if they are coming from NA of the ME they only confront in pairs now!

I also have confronted islamic street stands two times in the last couple of years, and loud enough that pedestrians and bystanders became aware of the scene. It ended always with rising aggression and loud anger towards the fairytale-tellers with their green books and papers in their hands, so that they finally stepped back, packed their things and left. So you see, stubborness and courage to accept confrontation pays off, and more Westerners than you may imagine possible will not fight against you, but may even support you (although i never take suppoort from others as granted and never take it into account). I would tell everybody to confront Muslims wherever they step beyond the line, try to deceive people and try to spread Islam by missionizing. I have also thought to go to a local mosque during a once-in-a-year day when mosques are open to infidels to be visited and receive "information" (smooth talking is what i call it). I decided against that, for I did not know if that mosque participated in that, and becasue the law would ensure their superiority inside their four walls and enable them to initiate police action against me, and in a Quranic quote-versus-quote duel I would expect to get involved in I would loose, I am not fluid enough in quoting the Quran without preparation.

Civil courage, guys! Each single one of you. It is your homes and your identity, your culture and your history, the future of your children and families at stake! Consider that the next time you feel tempted to participate in an election of any kind and vote for a party! Resistance is neither futile, nor is it chanceless. If more people would be willing to openly confront Islam and not smooth-talking it, would care to convince others and would take good care to do that kind of fighting on the basis of good information and historical facts, Islamic colonies would have no longterm chance to survive in Europe - they are still counting only by some millions, that means - they are still vulnerable. but since some time know they obviously feel strong enough to act more openly and aggressively against thei hosting nations and culture - and this should be a warning message for everybody. If that warning does not go unnoticed and triggers more determination to enforce their true integration and willingness to fit in, or kickm them out, they would either leave due to mounting pressure, or they would massively change themselves and integrate (a first in history, but one should never stop to have hope, eh?! :) ).

[STEED]

90% BACK JACK

Read it HERE (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_headline=90%2D-back-jack%26method=full%26objectid=17888034%26siteid=94 762-name_page.html)

[NEON DEON]

Maybe it is my American Cowboy mentality shinning thru, but, I just don’t get how it can be acceptable to mask in public. (Mardi Gras excluded).

Sparky! Go get the Sheriff. There are a bunch of masked people riding into to town. They could be trying to rob the bank!;) ;)

[Skybird]

Maybe it is my American Cowboy mentality shinning thru, but, I just don’t get how it can be acceptable to mask in public.

In german law code it even is forbidden since several years.

[thestoon]

Maybe it is my American Cowboy mentality shinning thru, but, I just don’t get how it can be acceptable to mask in public. (Mardi Gras excluded).

Sparky! Go get the Sheriff. There are a bunch of masked people riding into to town. They could be trying to rob the bank!;) ;)

How do motorcycle helmets work then..:hmm: