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gord96
10-05-06, 05:13 PM
What year (42?) and in what Flotilla can I get the VIIC/42 uboat? I looked in the online manual but it only has listings for the 41.

Thanks:hmm:

HunterICX
10-05-06, 05:27 PM
The VIIC/42 Comes available in

VIIC/42 January 1944

:up: bloody late for such a good sub.

HunterICX

Ps: for the rest of the subs look here http://www.communitymanuals.com/shiii/index.php?title=Career_Timeline

gord96
10-05-06, 05:31 PM
dang...

lol...i was looking forward to using it. thought it might come out in 42. I have the ViiB right now. I like it and the VIIC doesn't seem to be that much of an improvement. What would you suggest as the next step up? The range and large loadout of torps on the IX class intrigues me but I hear they steer like a drunken mule...thanks for any info gents :)

Hueywolf123
10-05-06, 05:33 PM
The 42, U-flak? I've seen them on screenshots so they are in the game.

HunterICX
10-05-06, 05:35 PM
The VIIC has more upgrade posibility then the type VIIB,

I prefer the type VII over an IX , especialy when having trouble with pissed of escorts.

HunterICX

Ducimus
10-05-06, 05:44 PM
The truth is the VIIc/42 never existed. I've scoured the internet on info on it, and the best summary you'll find on uboat.net. If it did exist, it would have been the epitomy of WW2 diesal boats. Submerged handling and endurance of a type 7, surface performance and endurance of a type 9, deepest diving of any diesal boat of WW2, and *just* enough torpedos to make most any trip worthwhile. The concept of the C/42 ive always been in love with, but again, it never got off the slipways. A few were started, but construction was canceled.

HunterICX
10-05-06, 05:47 PM
The truth is the VIIc/42 never existed. I've scoured the internet on info on it, and the best summary you'll find on uboat.net. If it did exist, it would have been the epitomy of WW2 diesal boats. Submerged handling and endurance of a type 7, surface performance and endurance of a type 9, deepest diving of any diesal boat of WW2, and *just* enough torpedos to make most any trip worthwhile. The concept of the C/42 ive always been in love with, but again, it never got off the slipways. A few were started, but construction was canceled.


I red that also, its ashame that they never have been used IRL.
If they had it earlier , that ship must be one of the best diesel subs in that era.

Ducimus
10-05-06, 06:21 PM
From one account i read, it got its surface performance from some new kind of supercharger.

Eichenlaub
10-06-06, 07:29 AM
PROJECTED DESIGNS:



Type VIIC/42

This design was brought about primarily in an attempt to increase the range and speed of the VIIC model by adding a second stage of boost to the already singly supercharged engines. Range was to have been increased with 35cm widening of the saddle tanks, adding nearly 70 tons to the maximum fuel load. Coupled with these performance issues was the thickening of the pressure hull by another 30cm, giving the Type VIIC/42 a normal diving depth of 300m and failure depth of a staggering 500m. Armour plating for the conning tower, an integral schnorchel and numerous flak weapons rounded out the design which would have taken the basic Type VIIC structure to its absolute limit. The first orders were placed on 16 July 1942 with Germaniawerft although within a year the entire conditions of the Atlantic battle had changed to such a degree that those boats of the 174 total number ordered that had been laid down within the shipyards, were cancelled in favour of Type XXI construction. Ironically it was the Russians who completed the only known examples of the VIIC/42 post-war when they finished the construction of U1174, U1176 and U1177 at the Danziger Werft, Danzig. It is though that they may also have finished several examples from the ordered U2301-U2318 series at Danzig's F Schichau yard as well.




Type VIIC/43



This planned expansion of the capabilities of the projected Type VIIC/41 would have seen the increase of the boat's offensive power. With redesigned bow and stern compartments the torpedo tube armament was to have been increased to six tubes forward (two banks of three) and four tubes aft (two banks of two). However, with the deteriorating convoy war, design work on the VIIC/43 was cancelled on 11 May 1943.




I got that from http://www.uboatwar.net/VII.htm (http://www.uboatwar.net/VII.htm). Check out the VIIC/42's test and crush depth! Amazing! What I wouldn't give to cheerily cruise at 400 metres!

Kind regards,


Eichenlaub

Jimbuna
10-06-06, 08:20 AM
I doubt it would have changed the inevitable outcome of the war in the Atlantic, but wow!!! what a boat :rock:

Finnbat
10-06-06, 08:29 AM
Theres no better boat than model II

And why ? small = hard to hit, agility = reacts fast to commands, especially in heavy weather is easy to keep periscope in attack condition.
Not too many torpedos = after sunk 6 ships you can sail back to home base and visit Le´Pierot

When IID model comes out the gasoline is no problem anymore.

Sailor Steve
10-06-06, 10:28 AM
Theres no better boat than model II
I agree, but your reasons are all wrong. The best and only reason to take a type II is that it's so darn CUTE!:/\\k:

But this thread is about the VIIC/42, and again I agree: it's a shame they didn't really have any; mainly a shame to me because except for single-mission fun I won't take a boat that wasn't really there.:cry:

Ducimus
10-06-06, 01:23 PM
:()1:

To the boat that never was, you'll always live fondly in our hearts and minds!

Hybris
10-06-06, 06:08 PM
To the VIIC/42 the phantdom U-boat may you forever sail the seas and sink thouse who wish harm the innocent. Amen:()1::lurk: