MultiSH3

[Bill Dickson]

I have installed the program and have successfully made multiple installs of SH3, but I cant make multiple installs of SH3 Commander.

I have tried to follow the instructions in the MultiSH3 readme but SH3 Commander keeps defaulting to the stock SH3 install.

In the readme it says "to specify a game location other than the default launch it with the /1 switch". Maybe this is where I am going wrong, what is the /1 switch, can sombody explain this please and give me further advice on how to make multiple installs of SH3 Commander for TGW and NYGM

Thanks,

[kylania]

I have two installs:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves and C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM

I have two installs of SH3 Commander:

C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe and C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe

On my desktop I have two SH3 Commander links:

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves"

and

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM"

So install your SH3 Commander twice into seperate directories. Than rclick on the Desktop Shortcut and change the Target property to add the proper /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves" flag to it. Do the same for the other copy's desktop shortcut. I usually rename the SH3 Commander shortcuts to "GM" and "NYGM" to tell them apart easily.

The flag is a lower case L not a 1 by the way. /l not /1.

I actually have 8 SH3 icons on my desktop. The SH3 Commander, SH3 itself, SH3Patrol or SH3Gen, shortcut to the install directory, shortcut to the career files directory per install.

[robj250]

I have two installs:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves and C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM

I have two installs of SH3 Commander:

C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe and C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe

On my desktop I have two SH3 Commander links:

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves"

and

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM"

So install your SH3 Commander twice into seperate directories. Than rclick on the Desktop Shortcut and change the Target property to add the proper /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves" flag to it. Do the same for the other copy's desktop shortcut. I usually rename the SH3 Commander shortcuts to "GM" and "NYGM" to tell them apart easily.

The flag is a lower case L not a 1 by the way. /l not /1.

I actually have 8 SH3 icons on my desktop. The SH3 Commander, SH3 itself, SH3Patrol or SH3Gen, shortcut to the install directory, shortcut to the career files directory per install.

How do you deal with JSGME in installing mods in your different installs of SH3?

[kylania]

How do you deal with JSGME in installing mods in your different installs of SH3?

I have a JSGME exe file in each of the install directories that only handled mods for that particular install.

[robj250]

How do you deal with JSGME in installing mods in your different installs of SH3?

I have a JSGME exe file in each of the install directories that only handled mods for that particular install.

So if you have a desktop shortcut for JSGME, you rename it to lead to the SH3 install you have then just like you did with CMDR

[kylania]

Actually I have short cuts to the install folders of GW and NYGM, and any time I need JSGME I just open the install folder and run it from there. :)

[JScones]

Whilst players can have one install of SH3Cmdr and use shortcuts to point it to their different installs of SH3, I strongly recommend, particularly if one of your SH3 installations is NYGM, that you have multiple installs of SH3Cmdr.

This ensures, with 100% certainty, that you will not have any "accidental" cross-pollenation between your different SH3 installs. It's particularly important if one of your installs is NYGM, as NYGM modifies certain files in a way that makes their structure different from the stock, and other mods', files.

It also means that you can have unique settings and files for each SH3 installation. For example, you may want to use the combined ship skins add-on with your NYGM install, but not with your GW install. Or you may want the sabotage effects enabled with NYGM, but not with GW, and so on. Essentially, separate SH3Cmdr installs gives you maximum flexibility.

Re JSGME, simply copy JSGME.exe into each install of SH3 and run it from there. It will automatically pick up the "related" SH3 installation folder.

[Potoroo]

Whilst players can have one install of SH3Cmdr and use shortcuts to point it to their different installs of SH3, I strongly recommend, particularly if one of your SH3 installations is NYGM, that you have multiple installs of SH3Cmdr.
Would you like me to update the MultiSH3 readme to reflect this?
Re JSGME, simply copy JSGME.exe into each install of SH3 and run it from there. It will automatically pick up the "related" SH3 installation folder.
The MultiSH3 readme suggests that if starting a multiple SH3 installation where you want to use JSGME that you install it in the stock game folder, run it once and create the game files snapshot before proceeding. It's just a convenience to do it that way rather than actually installing it manually each time, as every game copy then starts with a copy of the stock snapshot to restore to in the event of a problem.

[robj250]

A thought just came to me. In the "My Documents" folder, is the folder SH3 where the games and careers are stored. Naturally, there would be a backup of that file for each SH3 game running: i.e. backupSH3TGW and backupSH3U55.

I noticed there is a file called Personnel. Should I also make a backup of that file for the appropriate games?

[kylania]

The "Personnel Files" folder in My Documents is from SH3 Commander, not SH3 itself. You can surely back it up, or recreate the files from SH3 Commander when you want them.

[robj250]

The "Personnel Files" folder in My Documents is from SH3 Commander, not SH3 itself. You can surely back it up, or recreate the files from SH3 Commander when you want them.

Yes, Kylania, I knew that file was generated by SH3 CMDR and not the game itself. So I do not really need to worry about it.

Ok. I also use SH3 Gen. Can that be used for all my installs as well?

[GlobalExplorer]

The "Personnel Files" folder in My Documents is from SH3 Commander, not SH3 itself. You can surely back it up, or recreate the files from SH3 Commander when you want them.

Yes, Kylania, I knew that file was generated by SH3 CMDR and not the game itself. So I do not really need to worry about it.

Ok. I also use SH3 Gen. Can that be used for all my installs as well?

Should work, because you set the path manually. Simply browse to the alternative one.

Can you report to me if it works?

[robj250]

The "Personnel Files" folder in My Documents is from SH3 Commander, not SH3 itself. You can surely back it up, or recreate the files from SH3 Commander when you want them.

Yes, Kylania, I knew that file was generated by SH3 CMDR and not the game itself. So I do not really need to worry about it.

Ok. I also use SH3 Gen. Can that be used for all my installs as well?

Should work, because you set the path manually. Simply browse to the alternative one.

Can you report to me if it works?

Didn't work. The second install of SH3 commander with the link to TGW didn't work and now my SH3 CMDR for my other U-55 won't work either

[robj250]

I have two installs:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves and C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM

I have two installs of SH3 Commander:

C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe and C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe

On my desktop I have two SH3 Commander links:

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves"

and

"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM"

So install your SH3 Commander twice into seperate directories. Than rclick on the Desktop Shortcut and change the Target property to add the proper /l:"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves" flag to it. Do the same for the other copy's desktop shortcut. I usually rename the SH3 Commander shortcuts to "GM" and "NYGM" to tell them apart easily.

The flag is a lower case L not a 1 by the way. /l not /1.

I actually have 8 SH3 icons on my desktop. The SH3 Commander, SH3 itself, SH3Patrol or SH3Gen, shortcut to the install directory, shortcut to the career files directory per install.

Hi, Everything worked fine with only 1 SH3 CMDR installed and shows in the add/remove folder. How can you get two installs of SH3 CMDR. I cannot.

Now my previous shortcut for SH3 CMDR to my U-55 SH3 files will not work.

This is really giving me a headache.

I take it that you only have ONE SH3 CMDR 2.5 installed in your program files.

I also cannot figure out what you mean by shortcut directory perinstall.

I'm all confused.

Just by chance, does your SH3 installs have Ubisoft\silenthunterIII

or does it have ubisoft\U-55 for example (using my game) and then one ubisoft\GreyWolves

so that the folder SilentHunterIII does not appear in your Ubisoft folders.....

and then how do I rig up shortcuts for my career files?

Sorry Kylana, but this is very confusing for me. I can get the red shortcuts to the two different games to work, but I cannot get the CMDR to work.

[kylania]

Here's a copy of the PM I sent you in case anyone else is having issues. I have TWO installs of SH3, SH3 Commander, JSGME, MultiSH3 each. JSGME and MultiSH3 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=98608) are installed in each of the base SH3 installs though so no problems there. SH3 and SH3 Commander are installed as described below:

I am really having problems trying to get my two SH3 installs to work using CMDR 2.5 and I don't understand what you mean by shortcuts for your careers. Could you please explain. Robert
No problem at all!

Below you'll find a screenshot of the 10 shortcuts I have for SH3 and my two installs. I'll try to describe what each one does.

GW Install has 4 parts and 5 icons:

SH3 installed to: C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GreyWolves
SH3 Commander installed to: C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander
Using MultiSH3 program I've set my career files to reside in My Documents\GW1 instead of My Documents\SH3
I've installed SH3Gen into C:\Program Files\SH3Gen

The five icons I have, 1 - 5 in the picture are links to each of these places.

The first is a link to my career files if I ever need to mess around with log files or view my personal web files that SH3 Commander makes.

The second is a link to the install folder for GW, where I can use my JSGME program to install new mods or view my screenshots.

The third link is to start SH3 itself, without using SH3 Commander.

The fourth link is to start SH3 Commander with a link to the GreyWolves install folder.

The fifth link is to SH3Gen, an optional "intelligence report" app.


NYGM Install has 4 parts and 5 icons:

SH3 installed to: C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\NYGM
SH3 Commander installed to: C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander NYGM
Using MultiSH3 program I've set my career files to reside in My Documents\TON instead of My Documents\SH3
I've installed SH3Patrol into My Documents\TON\data\cfg per it's install.

The five icons I have, 1 - 5 in the picture are links to each of these places.

The first is a link to my career files if I ever need to mess around with log files or view my personal web files that SH3 Commander makes.

The second is a link to the install folder for NYGM, where I can use my JSGME program to install new mods or view my screenshots.

The third link is to start SH3 itself, without using SH3 Commander.

The fourth link is to start SH3 Commander with a link to the NYGM install folder.

The fifth link is to SH3Patrol, an optional program to help with MilkCows and reassigning patrol grids.

I hope this clears up the multiple installs thing for you, please ask if you have any questions about it.


View Icons here. (http://www.kylania.com/sh3/wolves/MultiInstalls.gif)


So I actually have three installs of SH3 right now. Ubisoft\GreyWolves, Ubisoft\NYGM and Ubisoft\SilenthunterIII. I also have three career folders, MyDocs\GW1, MyDocs\TON and MyDocs\SH3. I however don't use the MyDocs\SH3 at all, and I don't use the Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII at all, other than to copy from when I need a fresh install.

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

I'd love to do a multi-install, but I have a wee problem. I bought SHIII online (direct2drive I believe). When I installed it I got a message along the lines of "number of authorizations remaining = 0". Worse, is that I have no idea where the original downloaded install file is at on my drives. --sighs--

What I'd love to be able to do is have a dual-install, with one for GW1.1a and the other for NYGM tonnage war. But without having the original install file (or knowing the name and trying to find it lurking buried on my HD) I don't think I can. As to the 'authorizations remaining' issue I think I can emal Ubisoft and explain and get another, yes? And once you've downloaded a game from an online company (sorry subsim, but I didn't know about you back then) can you redownload it again in case of a crash or lost file?

[kylania]

Yeah, you should be able to contact UbiSoft and get a new download key.

You can also simply copy the installed folder you already have and use that other copy. It won't be as good as using a fresh install, but should work if you can remove the mods you've applied safely.

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

Yeah, you should be able to contact UbiSoft and get a new download key.

You can also simply copy the installed folder you already have and use that other copy. It won't be as good as using a fresh install, but should work if you can remove the mods you've applied safely.

Kewl. I couldn't remember if installing did anything to the registry or not. Basically I can just globally copy and paste the entire folder, then rename them seperate? For example, /GW and /NYGM? Following the examples here on running dual installs?

[kylania]

Exactly!

The only concern I'd have would depend on how you've installed any mods you're using. If you used JSGME the whole time, you should be mostly safe. I tried an uninstall from that before though and it ended up leaving some folders behind and I had really odd "errors". Actually turned out some of the errors was NYGM actually acting properly, (when before it hadn't!) but I digress. :)

I'd still contact Ubisoft and get a pristine install image again, or just go out and buy the game locally or online. It's $19.82 at Wal Mart (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3132303), and $18 something at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Ubi-Soft-Silent-Hunter-DVD/dp/B00023XXN6/sr=8-1/qid=1160545840/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5593780-4418415?ie=UTF8) and Office Depot of all places. Some online retailers at Amazon even have it as low as $9.75!

[Albrecht Von Hesse]

Exactly!

The only concern I'd have would depend on how you've installed any mods you're using. If you used JSGME the whole time, you should be mostly safe. I tried an uninstall from that before though and it ended up leaving some folders behind and I had really odd "errors". Actually turned out some of the errors was NYGM actually acting properly, (when before it hadn't!) but I digress. :)

I'd still contact Ubisoft and get a pristine install image again, or just go out and buy the game locally or online. It's $19.82 at Wal Mart (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3132303), and $18 something at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Ubi-Soft-Silent-Hunter-DVD/dp/B00023XXN6/sr=8-1/qid=1160545840/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5593780-4418415?ie=UTF8)and Office Depot of all places. Some online retailers at Amazon even have it as low as $9.75!

I've only ever installed mods using JSGME so hopefully that won't be a problem. I did research that before dipping my toes in the mod-waters. ;)

I might just re-buy a copy. Although I instinctively balk at that idea for two reasons: one being I hate paying for something twice :x and the other is that, up to now, I haven't ever seemed to suffer from a particular problem so many others have with installing the game due to 'accessory' :hmm: software bundled with it. I guess part of me is worried that starting from scratch again might be asking for trouble.

Still, there is a lot to be said for that I suppose. SHIII has been, so far, my first ever pc game. And along with that my first ever reason to explore online and find nice places like here :) to chat and talk with like-minded people, and slowly learning about mods to start with, and how to use them correctly. So, needless to say, it's been a somewhat jerky and rough start for me this last few months, and wiping the drive and starting a-fresh probably wouldn't hurt. I'd just want to make sure I back-up all the mod install programs first so I don't wind up having to d/l and decompress 'em all over again.

[kylania]

Although I instinctively balk at that idea for two reasons: one being I hate paying for something twice

I once went out to buy Masters of Orion 3 again since I'd lost it in my room and it seemed easier to just buy it again than actually clean up. :)

My friend hit me for being a moron and I found the game install CDs the next night!:lol:

That actually was a very important night. Since the store I went to was sold out of MOO3, but I was in the mood to buy a game so I picked up "that old sub game" SH3 instead. Two weeks later I finally opened it!

[Tuddley3]

Ugghh!!!! I spent 4 hours trying Kylania's switch instructions, not realizing there is a SPACE between the switch.