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UglyMowgli
09-21-06, 06:25 AM
Take a look at all the photos from the 15 september at this site: http://pilot.strizhi.info/

Here for Kaptain :D
http://pilot.strizhi.info/2006/09/15/787#more-787

http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/IMG_3108_sm.jpg

kiwi_2005
09-21-06, 06:39 AM
thats a beautiful shot :up:

Konovalov
09-21-06, 07:36 AM
That is a Victor III is it not? Sorry but it has been a very long time since I have played SC SCXiic? Also is the small ship firing a missile in that link a Grisha? Nice pics by the way.

Oberon
09-21-06, 08:06 AM
Oh, now that is a BEAUTIFUL pic! :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Syxx_Killer
09-21-06, 08:22 AM
That looks like an Akula to me. Anyway, it is a very nice shot. :cool:

tycho102
09-21-06, 01:35 PM
Wow. Either that is one brand new boat, or the picture is 'shopped. Talk about black.

Oberon
09-21-06, 02:20 PM
Oh dear, now it's a good photograph of a surfaced red X in a white box :damn:

Perilscope
09-21-06, 03:24 PM
I do not know why, but that sub is one of the most beautiful sub ever designed. :up:

John Pancoast
09-21-06, 03:55 PM
Man, is that a weld bead below the middle officer ? If so, either they need to find another welder, or another robotic welder :)

http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/IMG_2837_sm.jpg

Linton
09-21-06, 04:44 PM
Still looks a nice picture to me.What is the logic behind a red x in a white box?

Oberon
09-22-06, 04:48 AM
Ah, it's back now...the pic went down earlier... :know:

Kapitan
09-22-06, 06:46 AM
The submarine is a victor III class SSN just been re painted and yes thats a very poor weld it looks as if they have got the origional weld then it broke welded over that then that broke then welded over that then it broke ect....

submarine is probably danil monoskovisky (spelling)

John Pancoast
09-22-06, 08:02 AM
The submarine is a victor III class SSN just been re painted and yes thats a very poor weld it looks as if they have got the origional weld then it broke welded over that then that broke then welded over that then it broke ect....

submarine is probably danil monoskovisky (spelling)


Hehe, better not dive to deep Comrade Captain :)

Onkel Neal
09-22-06, 08:18 AM
I do not know why, but that sub is one of the most beautiful sub ever designed. :up:

Yeah, sweet looking boat. :yep:

WutWuzDat
09-22-06, 02:54 PM
Oh dear, now it's a good photograph of a surfaced red X in a white box :damn:

Was it this one? http://www.boomspeed.com/osned/1.gif

:D

nikimcbee
09-22-06, 10:16 PM
That is a Victor III is it not? Sorry but it has been a very long time since I have played SC SCXiic? Also is the small ship firing a missile in that link a Grisha? Nice pics by the way.

Looks just like my model of my victor III:cool:

nikimcbee
09-22-06, 10:20 PM
Setting new background now:cool:

Bill Nichols
09-22-06, 10:47 PM
Check out this video I found on the above site:

http://pilot.strizhi.info/2006/08/21/410#more-410

joea
09-23-06, 04:37 AM
Oh nice pics, lousy weld :nope: , gorgeous sub. :up:

Thanks for finding the vid Bill. :rock:

Oberon
09-23-06, 06:01 AM
Nice find Bill, I recognise the show, I've seen clips from it regarding T-80s and various Russian missiles on youtube but never submarines, and wow, what great Alfa footage! :up:
One question, at time index 08:06, what is that? Is it some kind of escape pod, or ballast tank simulator? It looks very strange. :doh:

Bill Nichols
09-23-06, 06:58 AM
Here's another vid from the site:

http://pilot.strizhi.info/2006/08/21/408#more-408

Kapitan
09-23-06, 07:06 AM
Thanks for the video link bill and the surface ship in the pictures is a grisha type IV

Oberon
09-23-06, 07:13 AM
Great find Bill! Good shots of the Victor III :up:


Here's another shot of that dodgy weld...and boy, is it dodgy! :hmm:

http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/IMG_2842_sm.jpg

Oberon
09-23-06, 07:19 AM
Here's another vid I just found:

http://pilot.strizhi.info/videos/the-boat.wmv (http://pilot.strizhi.info/videos/the-boat.wmv)

Kapitan
09-24-06, 07:22 AM
The picture you posted oberon is of a kilo and i think i know why the welds are like that, inside the sail there is ment to be an escape pod the sail is designed to split and allow the pod to float free.

John Pancoast
09-24-06, 02:45 PM
The picture you posted oberon is of a kilo and i think i know why the welds are like that, inside the sail there is ment to be an escape pod the sail is designed to split and allow the pod to float free.

Interesting. You'd think a better method than a lousy weld would have been thought of, for such use.
Why *build* a structural flaw into, of all things, a sub, lol.

Kapitan
09-24-06, 02:51 PM
You would be surprised though the victors could dive well below 550 meters and the akulas are rated down to 675 meters however the victors are now ageing and i wouldnt be a shock if thier max depth have been reduced to around 450 meters or 420 meters as most are now reaching 15 years +

the mike class hit 1020 meters though.

John Pancoast
09-24-06, 02:56 PM
You would be surprised though the victors could dive well below 550 meters and the akulas are rated down to 675 meters however the victors are now ageing and i wouldnt be a shock if thier max depth have been reduced to around 450 meters or 420 meters as most are now reaching 15 years +

the mike class hit 1020 meters though.

Thanks for the info. But did the sub(s) that did those numbers have this kind of weld on them ? :D

Kapitan
09-24-06, 04:11 PM
Funnily enough the shots i have seen of the mike yes they have had welds like these.

John Pancoast
09-24-06, 04:28 PM
Funnily enough the shots i have seen of the mike yes they have had welds like these.

Ah, ok, that answers that, thanks !

TteFAboB
09-24-06, 04:34 PM
My kind of welding. :up:

Real Men just keep pouring metal until both parts stick together or ruin them trying.
:arrgh!:

DanCanovas
09-25-06, 06:09 AM
can I ask what sub this is?


http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2186/im000234smzz0.jpg

Oberon
09-25-06, 08:38 AM
That's a good pic...and a good question!

Nearest I can put it to is a Bravo...but a Bravo would have the sail windows....over to the Russian sub experts on this one!

UglyMowgli
09-25-06, 09:01 AM
Project 661 Anchar (Papa) for me, the only one, , in one word the golden Fish ;)

take a look at my short collection of Soviet sub:

http://www.jeuxfrancophone.com/ifile.php

lesrae
09-25-06, 09:44 AM
Funnily enough the shots i have seen of the mike yes they have had welds like these.

Ah, ok, that answers that, thanks !

Bear in mind that this dodgy looking weld is on the fin, not the pressure hull so it's a free-flood area with no pressure on it, just mechanical forces caused by drag.

Kapitan
09-25-06, 11:41 AM
Yes its true about the flooding of the sail the only part left not flooded is the escape pod.

Also that album is very nice collection.

John Pancoast
09-25-06, 04:22 PM
Funnily enough the shots i have seen of the mike yes they have had welds like these.

Ah, ok, that answers that, thanks !

Bear in mind that this dodgy looking weld is on the fin, not the pressure hull so it's a free-flood area with no pressure on it, just mechanical forces caused by drag.

True, but I assume the tower/control room hatch(es) are inside the same area, and if so, they'd be exposed (suddenly) to the full pressure of the depth the sub was at ?

I'm sure they're (hatches) built to take pressure, but again, just seems like a bass ackward way of doing things.

Ramius
09-25-06, 04:34 PM
........
take a look at my short collection of Soviet sub:

http://www.jeuxfrancophone.com/ifile.php

Nice collection you got there :up:

lesrae
09-26-06, 12:29 AM
True, but I assume the tower/control room hatch(es) are inside the same area, and if so, they'd be exposed (suddenly) to the full pressure of the depth the sub was at ?

I'm sure they're (hatches) built to take pressure, but again, just seems like a bass ackward way of doing things.

The hatch is inside there, but it wouldn't suddenly be exposed to any pressure; as the fin is free flooding it has the full sea pressure both inside and outside it's structure from the moment the boat dives - in the same way as the casing structure. They're there to protect periscopes, masts etc when they're extended and to smooth out the hull which is in reality covered in loads of pipes, hull glands, exhaust pipework etc.

I don't disagree that that weld looks awful, it looks to me like it could even be a gap that's filled with some type of epoxy and then painted, this would agree with Kapitan's explanation that the fin splits to release the escape pod - as could the conveniantly split handrail around the fin.

John Pancoast
09-26-06, 12:54 PM
True, but I assume the tower/control room hatch(es) are inside the same area, and if so, they'd be exposed (suddenly) to the full pressure of the depth the sub was at ?

I'm sure they're (hatches) built to take pressure, but again, just seems like a bass ackward way of doing things.

The hatch is inside there, but it wouldn't suddenly be exposed to any pressure; as the fin is free flooding it has the full sea pressure both inside and outside it's structure from the moment the boat dives - in the same way as the casing structure. They're there to protect periscopes, masts etc when they're extended and to smooth out the hull which is in reality covered in loads of pipes, hull glands, exhaust pipework etc.

I don't disagree that that weld looks awful, it looks to me like it could even be a gap that's filled with some type of epoxy and then painted, this would agree with Kapitan's explanation that the fin splits to release the escape pod - as could the conveniantly split handrail around the fin.


Thanks for the info., sounds good.

nikimcbee
10-17-06, 12:28 AM
Here's another vid I just found:

http://pilot.strizhi.info/videos/the-boat.wmv (http://pilot.strizhi.info/videos/the-boat.wmv)

That video rocks. Now I have 2 russian sub shows, one is vhs though.:down: