Real time sailors (gronards?)

[Target]

Is that what defines a gronard? Someone who'll sit at his PC a few hours at a time and allow his boat to ply the ocean without the aid of time compression? I'm just curious, because if it is, how many have we here at subsim? I'll start, I'm one.

I'm not sure why, but I kind of get a sense of accomplishment from running the simulation in real time. Kind of like those old sci fi flicks that show a researcher sitting reading the paper at a console while the computer runs through complex equations. BTW, I've become quite a prolific reader myself since I began this manner of game play. It takes forever, comparatively speaking, compared with others, and is why I had to drop out of WAW. Seems to be unnatural to most, but the fare on the tellie is deplorable. While a real life sailor (OK Coast Guardsman) I liked to get underway, and the rougher it was the better I liked it. Again, a trait many would find "unusual". So from 8PM - 12PM (20:00-00:00) each night I'm underway again just as when I was a younger man.

So this brings me to another question I've been mulling over in my brain housing group. Is there anyone running a RT campaign without restrictions to time spent at sea?
Trgt Fomrerly Boats

[Sailor Steve]

Read Laughing Swordfish's story on the voyages of his U-46. He started writing up his (mis-) adventures while running his career in real time. That even got him mentioned in a gaming magazine.

[Captain_Stabbing]

Heres what I have to say about the guys that do the real time thing. Seriously.... go out and join the real navy. I have spent months at a time flop-cocking about at sea in a little assigned patrol area, and its not fun. I have no idea what sense of accomplishment you expect to gain by sitting in front of your computer non-stop. Seriously...... I dont mean to be rude, but man.... theres a real world outdoors too. I said my bit.
I have been meaning to say that since I read about that guy that sat in front of his computer (probably some 50 year old still at his parents house) for days on end.

[Rose]

I am partial to Captain Stabbings general statement, although if you implied that SH3 is not fun when you said, flop-cocking about at sea in a little assigned patrol area, I strongly disagree.

[Dowly]

Read Laughing Swordfish's story on the voyages of his U-46. He started writing up his (mis-) adventures while running his career in real time. That even got him mentioned in a gaming magazine.

Wasnt he someone else? I mean the guy who got into the magazine? Wrrrat or something like that.

[U-104]

Wrrrat or something like that.

:yep::yep:

[Target]

Really Cpt. Stabbing you should read a little more carefully before you post. I have been to sea. Not sure if you're referring to a real patrol grid in your experiances or not, but I can say I have been on patrol, in a grid, in real life, and enjoyed being underway. I even liked being on the squid boat (sorry Steve) when I was a Marine. But I'm repeating myself.

I don't sit at my PC nonstop, as I said, 4 hours a night as I read. Since I'm married and not a beer swilling sailor any longer it's that or TV. And TV isn't appealing. And again, repeating myself for the benefit of the reading impaired. (I do try to practise my guitar for an hour before hand).

I'll never understand why people on the internet feel the need to make snide remarks about something that interests another person but holds none for them. Hence my low post count. Can't stand for someone to look down their nose at me. Can't we all just move along when the subject isn't to our taste??
Ok, that's it, I'll move myself along now.

BTW, you have no idea if the person you are lambasting isn't perhaps disabled and this might be nearly all he/she has as entertainment and therefore tries to get out of it all they can.
Rant over, carry on.

[The Noob]

Read Laughing Swordfish's story on the voyages of his U-46. He started writing up his (mis-) adventures while running his career in real time.

Did Laughing Swordfish post it on the internet? Link? Sounds interesting...:D

[Captain_Stabbing]

The flop cocking about in a patrol grid is in regards to my own time flopping back and forth in 8 metre seas on a rocky ship off the coast of an un-named country. As for the 4 hours a day while you read, I didnt mean that as a dig at you my friend. I was really meaning to take a dig at the guy that put up that article in the computer magazine. (I saw it and it kinda made me roll my eyes)
4 hours a night for a happily married man, heck, no problem. I am kinda also going on a bit about the folks that are "totally emersed" in the "ultra realistic" environment" that SH3 offers.
For a computer game (and yes, to some folks on here, believe it or not, it IS just a game) it does an admirable job of portraying realism. But for the folks that want the real thing, I will take time compression of 1024x any day getting to my patrol zone over steaming at 10 knots in a gale slowly getting further and further away from my family.
And for ****s and giggles, I play SH3 at sea too. :P

[Boris]

Whatever floats your boat I say. For me life's too short for 1x TC. Maybe once I'm retired in 40 years... Man subsims will be awesome by then :hmm:

[mcbee]

I agree with Boris - everyone has a different take on the subject...that's what makes life interesting.

[Warmonger]

I suppose I wouldn't want to be a gronard. This just sounds too much like Bernard.:hmm:

[SteamWake]

Supprised no one corrected the spelling :know:

Its Grognard and heres the wicki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grognard

[_Seth_]

Supprised no one corrected the spelling :know:

Its Grognard and heres the wicki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grognard
Supprised no one corrected the spelling :know:

..here is the wici link...

:rotfl:
Steamwake; Im just kidding!!!! No hard feelings, mate!:sunny:
I can only speak for myself: I thought it was named gronard, but your link made it all much more clear to me!
I prefer to use TC, gets me into the "action" a little quicker!!!! ADDICTED!!!!!!:rock:

[Finnbat]

Me belong to the persons who sometime sail in reality-time for long long periods. But then when moving long distances I go faster than Flash Gordon.

It is nothing more fine feelings than sail in a submarine and watch the nature so fine simulated is this superb game. All the battles is a must to play in realtime. And leaving the port or sailing back into the subbase is a must to live.

I just wonder how to spend my time if had to sail to patrol to South Africa in real time ?

[Notewire]

I have an alternate version, and I do consider myself a Grognard - although some of those folks get pretty competitive in the grognardness.

I play on low TC, instead of no TC. I try to play at 32 or 64, that way, if I play an hour a day, I end up playing approximately one day of patrol per day of real life. That is a perfect balance that works for me. It seemed a little unreal, even playing a couple hours a day, that a 9 day patrol in a Type II would take me two or three months. Cripes, the whole war would go by, playing 5 years of SH, and I would still be in 1941 - because while I was playing Real Time, I wasn't playing All the Time, which is what those folks in the articles do.

So, my compromise for my stilted way of playing was to play a day per day, at about 32 TC - with the caviat that when entering/leaving harbors, in contact, or in events of any sort, I drop it to 1x TC.

Then again, I am in the Army, and use the game as an escape. We don't do much flop cocking you see . . . :lol:

[Captain_Stabbing]

Glad to see you all enjoy the "flop cocking" term. You should try a week in a force 7-8 storm, with 40+ foot waves, spewing your lnch and dinner into a transparent trash bag :P Look up not fun in the dictionary, and there it is!

[Boris]

Supprised no one corrected the spelling :know:

Its Grognard and heres the wicki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grognard

:rotfl::rotfl: I always thought a GrogNard was something you have to do the morning after a night out drinking. :rotfl::lol: