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Rockstar
09-04-06, 06:29 PM
By Oliver North
August 20, 2006

LONDON.
Let the recriminations begin. In the aftermath of Israel's abortive, on-again, off-again, military campaign against Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon, there are calls for a no-confidence vote to unseat Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Ohmert. In Washington, critics of President Bush cite the latest round of Mideast violence and the discovery of a suicide plot to bomb U.S.-bound aircraft as reasons to spurn Republicans at the polls this November. In Lebanon, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah claims Hezbollah's "victory" gives him a new mantle of political authority. His assertion is supported not just by his zealous followers -- but by governments in Tehran, Damascus and less quietly in other Islamic capitals.
All these accounts of recent Mideast hostilities -- and now a UN-imposed cease-fire -- have appeared in last week's newspapers, magazines, radio and TV broadcasts. Though such depictions of political consequence may indeed be accurate, they are woefully shallow and ultimately mislead readers and viewers.
With the exception of a small handful of serious journals, few of today's commentators or "reporters" seem able or willing to explain the latest armed confrontation and suicide bomb threats in the stark and perilous terms they deserve. As a result, few Americans seem to comprehend the two dangerous -- and perversely synergistic -- themes that predominate in modern radical Islam:
c The apocalyptic belief of Shi'ite scholars, clerics and political leaders -- like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- predicting a violent, "final" clash between Muslims and infidels in which Islam triumphs, by wiping "nonbelievers" from the Earth.
c And the predominantly Sunni Muslim goal of an Islamic caliphate that extends from Casablanca in the west to Bali in the east.
The vision of a globe-spanning Islamic theocracy is not new. In 632 A.D., following the death of Muhammad, his followers named Abu Bakr, as caliph -- or successor. He resolved to spread the Muslim theology, with its message of equality and strict rules of behavior, through force of arms. His goal of Islamic dominance has survived the bloody Sunni-Shi'ite schism, the rise and collapse of the Ottoman Empire, two world wars, communism and the fitful spread of representative democracy through most of the rest of the world.
Thanks to a steady flow of petrodollars, today's leaders of "the religion of peace" -- both Sunni and Shi'ite -- have been able to launch and sustain well-financed, extremely aggressive campaigns to advance their beliefs. Sheiks, imams, mullahs and ayatollahs routinely expound the virtues of "martyrdom" and vicious treatment for Christians and Jews.
The "common ground" for all Islamic radicals is hatred of the United States and Israel. Shi'ite leaders like Iranian Ayatollah Ali Khameini, Sheik Nasrallah and "President" Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, routinely proclaim Israel, the "Little Satan," must be "destroyed," and the United States, the "Great Satan" must be "driven from the lands of the prophet" -- where Islam is practiced as a state religion.
Sunni terror leaders -- like al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden and his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahri, have openly pledged to establish a new global caliphate. They have loudly and proudly proclaimed Islam will rule the world, and that the West and its "infidel" religions and cultures will be destroyed.
Bin Laden has boasted "the pious caliphate will start from Afghanistan." Al-Zawahri envisions the caliphate's re-establishment, writing, "History would make a new turn, God willing, in the opposite direction of the United States and the world's Jewish government." Fazlur Rehman Khalil, an al Qaeda apologist, has written: "Due to the blessings of jihad, America's countdown has begun. It will declare defeat soon," and will be followed by a new caliphate.
Western political leaders and media elites seem unwilling to acknowledge the threat posed by these two repetitive themes in modern radical Islam -- an Armageddon-like final battle -- and the call for a new globe-spanning caliphate. Failure of the "international community" to fully support democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq, to insist on disarming Hezbollah in Lebanon or to unite against Iranian efforts to acquire nuclear weapons place all of us -- not just Israel -- in great peril.
Instead of confronting radical Islam, the response in the United Nations, most of Europe and much of the United States is to preach "tolerance," "understanding" and "dialogue." The belief that poverty, lack of education or inadequate economic opportunity has incited Muslim rage against the West is totally mistaken.
The terrorists left to rearm in Lebanon weren't recruited into Hezbollah by the promise of a square meal. Apparently most of the would-be suicide killers apprehended last week here in London had jobs. Like the 19 hijackers who killed nearly 3,000 in the U.S. on September 11, 2001, several had university degrees. And like the seven who blew themselves to pieces here in London on July 7, 2005 -- they all intended to die. Understanding that will be important in the days ahead -- particularly so if the Iranians deploy "an Islamic bomb."

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Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.-Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR

The Avon Lady
09-05-06, 10:43 AM
Suggested reading: The West's Last Chance: Will We Win the Clash of Civilizations? (http://www.amazon.com/Wests-Last-Chance-Clash-Civilizations/dp/0895260158/sr=8-1/qid=1157470911/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-3315969-5944002?ie=UTF8&s=books), by Tom Blankley.

Rockstar
09-05-06, 05:44 PM
There is going to be another horrific consequence if we continue to tell ourselves Islam is just a peaceful religion. Who but ourselves say this, the muslims haven't not even the so called and oft too quiet moderate ones, only the west. We all heard about jihad and how it means striving against one's inner self a noble cause I'm sure to the peace loving, tolerant, self-loathing peoples of the west. But wait K-mart shoppers there's more! It's cha cha chia Jihad al-Shaitan (striving against Satan ie. U.S.A. and Israel), chia pet Jihad al-kuffaar (striving against the disbelievers ie. the west), Jihad al-munafiqeen (striving against the hypocrites), Jihad al-faasiqeen (striving against corrupt Muslims ie. we call them 'moderate'). Hmmm what aisle has the one about peace where in blue blazes is the one about peace, how do muslims live in peace? Oh, peace comes through submission (Islam) meaning making the whole world Muslim, which is a mandate for war. :o

Oh lets not forget about all the fun we all can have around the campfire singing jihad johnny's favorite, Islamic Jihad! (Holy War)

Skybird
09-05-06, 07:55 PM
Kind of an open letter.

I invite, request and demand every Muhammedan to subscribe his name again to the path of human quality, reason and civilization. I don't tell you what party, what faction, what colour you should choose, I only tell you to leave the realms of pitchblack darkness. "Tear down those walls you have raised in your eyes." No matter the colour, every kind of light is better than the hate-filled, inhuman, selfish, sly darkness Muhammed has poured into your hearts. It's no nectar you are living from, it's tar. You are satisfied with it as long as you know nothing better. That's why you are forbidden to learn and ask questions.

Muhammad's name is amongst the worst tyrants and evil-doers in all history, and you follow him and turn him into a golden idol, a lie to follow, a self-deceiving fallacy - like brown shirts and bankiers, SS-thugs and doctors, Wehrmacht-officers and ordinary citizens joined to follow Hitler in good belief and really convinced that they represented the future of Europe, the last defense against Eastern barbarism and Jewish desease, the elite of Western civilisation. You declare a mass-murderer and brutal tyrant a man of peace and humanity, a conqueror you turn into a hero of almost pacifism, a man who was wading in blood you dare to put beside true preachers of peaceful acting like Jesus and Siddharta. Now, that is something that I found offending for a change! Murder and torture in your "holy" scriptures you label as noble, as a right and of spiritual reward. Attacking and killing infidels and getting killed in that you declare a virtue, written down in your cursed scriptures. Every resistance to Islam you declare an offense, and agression, a need to defend yourself. Muhammad's wisdom is just an absurd lie, don't buy it. He wanted to rival the smart thinkers of his time, but truth is: he was too stupid and too limited in intellect to do that - which he did not understand to be his own fault and limitation, but earned them his murderous hate even beyond his death, he made you to hail his inflationary ego, belkieve in his pervertion of reasonable thinking, turn you into followers into his selfmade little "religion", and sacrifice your souls for material and immaterial monuments of rememberance to raise in his cursed name. Stop being slaves! You look pitiful to me.

Stop move like dogs with your faces deep in the dust, and learn upright walking, like humans do. Start claiming your birth-given right to refuse blind believing, but to know, to learn and to develope your mind instead. All of Muhammad's future promises is just standstill and stagnation in ridiculous primitivity until the end of time, so stop being helpless in the face of life and the world, depending on foreigner'S knowledge and superior developement to heal your deseases, feed your hungry, water your desert places, modernize your primitive cities, invest in your primitive economies (build with stolen or bought technology that is not developed by yourself, for your sciences and universities again are pitiful only for religious reasons). Stop being stuck in the muderous religious fanatism and stupidity of the medieval. you are not only strangling us, you are also strangling yourself, you death-loving idiots.

If you stick to this betrayal of all what is noble and potentially good and creative in man, all mankind has a right and a duty to call you our most lethal enemy who wishes us the worst and declares the hell and slavery you create by your very own deeds, not some God's deeds, as the best world possible.

Stop whining how cruel life is to you for that you do not have your will fullfilled when wanting Islam all over. you are no victims of ours. You are victims of yourself, victims of your own serious mental handicaps. You became disabled persons by the war Muhammad has declared on human greatness, intellect, knowledge, mind and creativity. You suffer from your own mental primitivity and lacking wisdom. You feel the pain of ten centuries you missed while voluntarily being frozen in time, like sleepwalking zombies you nevertheless walked on the face of earth and shattered and destroyed almost every culture, every civilization that was not strong or willing enough to repel your attacks, your constant wars of aggression, your invasion attempts. You are not defending against us. You are attacking us, since over a thousand years. We needed to defend against you - again and again and again. We fight for our survival against you again. You are no victim, you are the bad guy who is haunting the block. The threat to our future and existence.

Our self-defense is no offense, no aggression - it is our right, in the name of all mankind for which you Muhammedans and your Islamic ideology are the biggest desaster, threat and test that has ever come to confront mankind throughout known history. No one has started more wars than you and your ancestors. No one codified the use of violance that explicitly in the fundaments of a belief and declared that a religous duty like you do. No one conducts ethnical cleansing as systematical like you do, since over a thousand years. no one shows a greater amount of intolerance and lacking ability to peacefully coexist and leave others alone. You always want it ALL, always. You are deeply offended and see yopurself as a victim and call for jihad when your victims reject your "offers" to submit to you. No one raised a bigger empire by military conquest than your ancestors did. No one ever submitted such a huge proportion of the globe by the use of force like you did. No one ever claimed such a total demand for world rulership and dominance like you do. No one ever brought Christianity closer to falling apart. No one ever threatened Europe with it's distinction as a historical and cultural identity that massively like your ancestor did, and now you living ones do. No one ever made such bad use of his ressources after the starting shot. Arabic society, without Islam then, was ahead of Europe when Muhammad appeared. Muhammad changed that by bringing everything to a standstill, so that nothing could emerge that would challenge his status. Your choice, not ours. Don't blame us. Blame yourself, you fools.

You are no victim defending itself. You are the aggressor.

You have no right to call yourself a friend of humans if you stick to this queer bunch of absurd lies and self-justifications of a sly, greedy man for some of the worst crimes possible. If you confess to Muhammad, the historically true Muhammad, your are an enemy of all mankind and a serious problem for every man and woman on Earth. And we have all right there is to fight and defend against you, and keep you away, and small, and helpless so that you cannot do us any harm in the name of your queer vision of what your life should be about, and to submit us to your stupid little theology that is not theology at all but only an erratic replacement for logic that always talks and concludes in circles. Learn about Muhammad's life from a perspective outside the twistings and distortions and glorifications of Islam, and you see what ruthless monster you are following. Then you will feel sad and deeply sorry for all the trouble you once helped to bring upon man while hiding the crime at the same time, and then some of us may be willing to accept your apology when we see that it is followed by according deeds.

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/index.htm

The Avon Lady
09-06-06, 12:29 AM
I invite, request and demand every Muhammedan to subscribe his name again to the path of human quality, reason and civilization.
And if they don't accept, can we charge them a special VAT? :hmm:

:p

Rolex Submariner
09-06-06, 01:38 PM
If you want to understand the nature of Islamic Jihadism, what they believe, what they have in mind for you and me and our families and communities, and what they do, watch the film, "Obsession" which was recently released. It is a documentary about Islamic fanaticism. Much of the taping was done surreptitiously at meetings of Islamic extremists in New York, London and other cities around the world. You will hear Islamic religious leaders tell their followers that non-believers (all non-Moslems) are "cows" and that "it is ok to kill them." In fact, they believe it is a positive religious commandment to kill infidels, that this act of murder is actually a good thing that brings smiles upon them from Allah. Check out the film.

The Noob
09-06-06, 04:54 PM
Hell, ye all know my Opinions about America, but the only one i dislike more is that Crazy Amadin...err..amja...you know, that Iranian Guy.

I'm Really no Racist or anything, but if they won't Leave us alone, we just have to defend. But i wouldn't go on offence if it isn't Really needed. And Bush got on offence. To get Saddam. Saddam wasn't even the Real enemy, Bin Laden was. Bin Laden is now in Afganistan in a Cave Chillin Building Bombs for his next attack.

Ama...arr..."He" has the RIGHT to become a Nuclear Power, as every other Nation has, but his Insane Religious Views Concern me, not the fact that he has some Nukes, for that his nation hasn't even a word.

But anyway, Islam is a bit of a Problem, and it won't be easy to Solve due the Nature of Islam.

*Hides in His Nuke Bunker and Grabs a Rocket Launcher*

It's Correct that there are some Peaceful Islamists, the Problem is that the Majority is interprething the Quran in a Jihad and War manner.

Sucky Situation.