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SUBMAN1
08-06-06, 11:37 AM
Now I am curious as to if the UN will condem Hezbollah just like it did to Israel??? Doubt it, but I wait for their reply.

-S

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20041230-601,00.html

PS. This could be Israelie troops killed to. They are a little vague on whom exactly was the ones involved.

SUBMAN1
08-06-06, 11:43 AM
One more thought - Why would Hezbollah not accept the peace deal is Israel would? The only reason is they could care less what Israel or the UN thinks, and have vowed destruction of the State of Israel with little regard to peace. Of course, this is how it has always been and everything else is just a sham to sway public opinion to their side.

-S

Skybird
08-06-06, 01:08 PM
where is the ouitcry? Where is the protest? The hysteric scenes on the streets? Demands for justice, and to end the warcrimes of Hezbollah? Where is Kofi Annan, making some immediate remarks how deliberate and intentional it is?

Oh, this time it is no Jewish "warcriminals", that'S why there is silence. I see that I understood it all wrong. :88)

Another nice couple or remarks by Mr. Hanson:

The Vocabulary of Untruth
Words take on new meanings as Israel struggles to survive.

By Victor Davis Hanson


A “ceasefire” would occur should Hezbollah give back kidnapped Israelis and stop launching missiles; it would never follow a unilateral cessation of Israeli bombing. In fact, we will hear international calls for one only when Hezbollah’s rockets are about exhausted.
“Civilians” in Lebanon have munitions in their basements and deliberately wish to draw fire; in Israel they are in bunkers to avoid it. Israel uses precision weapons to avoid hitting them; Hezbollah sends random missiles into Israel to ensure they are struck.

“Collateral damage” refers mostly to casualties among Hezbollah’s human shields; it can never be used to describe civilian deaths inside Israel, because everything there is by intent a target.

“Cycle of Violence” is used to denigrate those who are attacked, but are not supposed to win.

“Deliberate” reflects the accuracy of Israeli bombs hitting their targets; it never refers to Hezbollah rockets that are meant to destroy anything they can.

“Deplore” is usually evoked against Israel by those who themselves have slaughtered noncombatants or allowed them to perish — such as the Russians in Grozny, the Syrians in Hama, or the U.N. in Rwanda and Dafur.

“Disproportionate” means that the Hezbollah aggressors whose primitive rockets can’t kill very many Israeli civilians are losing, while the Israelis’ sophisticated response is deadly against the combatants themselves. See “excessive.”

Anytime you hear the adjective “excessive,” Hezbollah is losing. Anytime you don’t, it isn’t.

“Eyewitnesses” usually aren’t, and their testimony is cited only against Israel.

“Grave concern” is used by Europeans and Arabs who privately concede there is no future for Lebanon unless Hezbollah is destroyed — and it should preferably be done by the “Zionists” who can then be easily blamed for doing it.

“Innocent” often refers to Lebanese who aid the stockpiling of rockets or live next to those who do. It rarely refers to Israelis under attack.

The “militants” of Hezbollah don’t wear uniforms, and their prime targets are not those Israelis who do.

“Multinational,” as in “multinational force,” usually means “third-world mercenaries who sympathize with Hezbollah.” See “peacekeepers.”

“Peacekeepers” keep no peace, but always side with the less Western of the belligerents.

“Quarter-ton” is used to describe what in other, non-Israeli militaries are known as “500-pound” bombs.

“Shocked” is used, first, by diplomats who really are not; and, second, only evoked against the response of Israel, never the attack of Hezbollah.

“United Nations Action” refers to an action that Russia or China would not veto. The organization’s operatives usually watch terrorists arm before their eyes. They are almost always guilty of what they accuse others of.

What explains this distortion of language? A lot.

First there is the need for Middle Eastern oil. Take that away, and the war would receive the same scant attention as bloodletting in central Africa.

Then there is the fear of Islamic terrorism. If the Middle East were Buddhist, the world would care about Lebanon as little as it does about occupied Tibet.

And don’t forget the old anti-Semitism. If Russia or France were shelled by neighbors, Putin and Chirac would be threatening nuclear retaliation.

Israel is the symbol of the hated West. Were it a client of China, no one would dare say a word.

Population and size count for a lot: When India threatened Pakistan with nukes for its support of terrorism a few years ago, no one uttered any serious rebuke.

Finally, there is the worry that Israel might upset things in Iraq. If we were not in Afghanistan and Iraq trying to win hearts and minds, we wouldn’t be pressuring Israel behind the scenes.

But most of all, the world deplores the Jewish state because it is strong, and can strike back rather than suffer. In fact, global onlookers would prefer either one of two scenarios for the long-suffering Jews to learn their lesson. The first is absolute symmetry and moral equivalence: when Israel is attacked, it kills only as many as it loses. For each rocket that lands, it drops only one bomb in retaliation — as if any aggressor in the history of warfare has ever ceased its attacks on such insane logic.

The other desideratum is the destruction of Israel itself. Iran promised to wipe Israel off the map, and then gave Hezbollah thousands of missiles to fulfill that pledge. In response, the world snored. If tomorrow more powerful rockets hit Tel Aviv armed with Syrian chemicals or biological agents, or Iranian nukes, the “international” community would urge “restraint” — and keep urging it until Israel disappeared altogether. And the day after its disappearance, the Europeans and Arabs would sigh relief, mumble a few pieties, and then smile, “Life goes on.”

And for them, it would very well.

Fish
08-06-06, 01:37 PM
They are Israëli soldiers.

scandium
08-06-06, 01:39 PM
Now I am curious as to if the UN will condem Hezbollah just like it did to Israel??? Doubt it, but I wait for their reply.

-S

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20041230-601,00.html

PS. This could be Israelie troops killed to. They are a little vague on whom exactly was the ones involved.

It was 12 troops killed, not 10, and they were Israeli soldiers not U.N. Peacekeepers.

scandium
08-06-06, 01:41 PM
where is the ouitcry? Where is the protest? The hysteric scenes on the streets? Demands for justice, and to end the warcrimes of Hezbollah? Where is Kofi Annan, making some immediate remarks how deliberate and intentional it is?
Uhmm.... maybe because they were Israeli, and therefore legitimate targets, which is obvious from the article if you even bothered to glance at it? :88)

[Edit] By the way where was your outrage and demands for justice when 4 U.N. peacekeepers actually were killed? Oh right, nowhere to be seen because they were killed by the IDF while you shrugged it off as collateral damage. I don't know what's funnier, the hypocracy or the misplaced hysteria.

Fish
08-06-06, 01:55 PM
where is the ouitcry? Where is the protest? The hysteric scenes on the streets? Demands for justice, and to end the warcrimes of Hezbollah? Where is Kofi Annan, making some immediate remarks how deliberate and intentional it is?
Uhmm.... maybe because they were Israeli, and therefore legitimate targets, which is obvious from the article if you even bothered to glance at it? :88)

[Edit] By the way where was your outrage and demands for justice when 4 U.N. peacekeepers actually were killed? Oh right, nowhere to be seen because they were killed by the IDF while you shrugged it off as collateral damage. I don't know what's funnier, the hypocracy or the misplaced hysteria.

They were soldiers, yes. Waiting for transit in the village of Kiriats Mone, more then 80 rockets where fired at the vilage, one of them hit the waiting soldiers.

Skybird
08-06-06, 03:13 PM
where is the ouitcry? Where is the protest? The hysteric scenes on the streets? Demands for justice, and to end the warcrimes of Hezbollah? Where is Kofi Annan, making some immediate remarks how deliberate and intentional it is?
Uhmm.... maybe because they were Israeli, and therefore legitimate targets, which is obvious from the article if you even bothered to glance at it? :88)

[Edit] By the way where was your outrage and demands for justice when 4 U.N. peacekeepers actually were killed? Oh right, nowhere to be seen because they were killed by the IDF while you shrugged it off as collateral damage. I don't know what's funnier, the hypocracy or the misplaced hysteria.

They were soldiers, yes. Waiting for transit in the village of Kiriats Mone, more then 80 rockets where fired at the vilage, one of them hit the waiting soldiers.

What's up, have I got something wrong? The article says in the opening paragraph "The UN was discussing the draft as 10 reserve soldiers were killed in a Hezbollah rocket barrage in the northern kibbutz of Kfar Giladi, the deadliest such attack since the Israeli offensive on Lebanon began 27 days ago." I am aware that bthe thread headline is a bit messed up. My principle question remains: why is a dead Israeli worth no note, but a dead Lebanese and/or a dead terror-bomber worth global uproar, and the UN going amok about this?