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SUBMAN1

07-31-06, 12:10 PM

Let the wars begin again! I wonder what IBM has up its sleeve to beat this one?

-S

http://www.newsfactor.com/news/Japan-Bests-IBM-in-Supercomputer-Stakes/story.xhtml?story_id=1220059R0ADY

waste gate

07-31-06, 12:28 PM

Not suprising, IBM is an overblown corporate buearacy that has a great deal of trouble getting out of its own way. More power to the upstart that can take it to the 'man'.

STEED

07-31-06, 12:50 PM

Japan kicks IBM butt yet again. :smug:

SUBMAN1

07-31-06, 12:56 PM

It's a constant war.

waste gate

07-31-06, 01:29 PM

SUBMAN1

07-31-06, 02:06 PM

Not suprising, IBM is an overblown corporate buearacy that has a great deal of trouble getting out of its own way. More power to the upstart that can take it to the 'man'.

I forgot about the fact that Bill Gates and his crew wrote the original 'IBM DOS'. IBM in its infinite beaurocatic wisdom let it go because PC's were just a fad. Look at Microsoft now. Much complaining about how they controll the market.

Hmm. My history may be a little lacking today (up till after 12 AM last night, and then alarm goes off at 5:45), but I do believe that they were very seperate programs. Bill Gates bought DOS and IBM had another version of it. Back in the day, you had IBM-DOS and MS-DOS (Yes, I am dating myself, but ignore that fact). I think we should research this and find out for sure, because quite frankly, I forgot!

-S

SUBMAN1

07-31-06, 02:09 PM

I guess this about sums it up:

History

MS-DOS began as QDOS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QDOS) (for Quick and Dirty Operating System), written by Tim Paterson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Paterson) for computer manufacturer Seattle Computer Products (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products) (SCP) in 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980). It was marketed by SCP as 86-DOS because it was designed to run on the Intel 8086 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8086) processor. QDOS function calls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_call) were based on the dominant CP/M-80 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M-80) operating system, written by Digital Research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Research), but it used a different file system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system). In a sequence of events that would later inspire much folklore, Microsoft negotiated a license for QDOS from SCP in December 1980 for $25,000, then re-licensed QDOS to IBM. Microsoft then acquired all rights to QDOS for only $50,000 from SCP in July, 1981, shortly before the PC's release.

waste gate

07-31-06, 02:18 PM

OK, SUBMAN1, I am off a bit on the history of DOS, but but don't you agree, that as today, IBM is a dinosaur that can't get out of its own way?

SUBMAN1

07-31-06, 02:31 PM

OK, SUBMAN1, I am off a bit on the history of DOS, but but don't you agree, that as today, IBM is a dinosaur that can't get out of its own way?

IBM has actually been doing good things lately and being a front runner in many areas, so I don't quite agree with you on that one. They have tremendous cash resources and a very talented staff. It is only a matter of time before they retake their crown. Its been going back and forth for a very long time in the Supercomputer biz between IBM and Japan - this is just a normal day. They have practically wiped out their consumer computer lines lately to help streamline the company too - They are turning into a server / research type co., so their days of being a dinosaur are probably over.

-S

waste gate

07-31-06, 02:38 PM

OK I'll take your word for it.

Back in the 1985-1987 time frame I spent my time selling PC's to business and industry. Everyone wanted the $6000 to $8000 IBM.

That was B4 the PC became the commodity that it is 2day. But I've always thought that IBM missed the boat on the PC explosion.