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SUBMAN1
07-28-06, 12:22 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/28/google_earth_swastika/
Belgian town scrambles to dismantle fountain
By Jan Libbenga (http://forms.theregister.co.uk/mail_author/?story_url=/2006/07/28/google_earth_swastika/)
Published Friday 28th July 2006 13:25 GMT
Google Earth aficionados have created a bonfire in the quiet town of Maasmechelen in Belgium, very close to the border with the Netherlands, by revealing that the fountain at the city council office looks like a swastika from the air.
The fountain has spouted happily for over 27 years, but now the mayor says he will replace it, fearing the town will otherwise be doomed.
http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/28/belgium_swastika_fountain.jpg
Seventy-two year old designer Robert Tachelet says he is "not a nazi, and I'm proud of the fountain. The Germans don't have the monopoly on the swastika, it is an ancient symbol of the Sun god".
He's right of course. In Europe by the early 20th century the swastika was widely used and regarded as a symbol of good luck and auspiciousness - it's just that its most enthusiasitic and best known proponents were the Nazis.
In 1979, when Tachelet presented his work to the previous Mayor, the resemblance of the swastika was not a issue. According to Belgian daily Het Laatste Nieuws (The Lastest News) the fountain will now take the shape of a shamrock.
The hunt for swastikas will most likely continue. Last year, a Swastika Junction (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/145025/Main/145025) was discovered in Florida, and Google Earth aficionados are still looking (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054860989&referrerid=59211) for a swastika house near Dublin which once belonged to the Germans.
Google Earth users can examine the evidence for themselves here (http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/28/google_earth_swastika_kmz.zip). ®
Well what can I say...........:lol:
scandium
07-28-06, 12:36 PM
Political correctness gone insane. :down:
This thread reminded me of this:
http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/trees.html
This thread reminded me of this:
http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/trees.html
Were they chopped down? :hmm:
This thread reminded me of this:
http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/trees.html
Were they chopped down? :hmm:
IIRC yes, at least enough of them to eliminate the shape.
Perhaps if we dig up all these locations we'll find the remains of Hitler? Then we can send him into a black hole or the sun or something :D
SUBMAN1
07-28-06, 02:34 PM
Perhaps if we dig up all these locations we'll find the remains of Hitler? Then we can send him into a black hole or the sun or something :D
The KGB had Hitler, so good luck!
Perhaps if we dig up all these locations we'll find the remains of Hitler? Then we can send him into a black hole or the sun or something :D
The KGB had Hitler, so good luck!
......Kapitain!!!!! :D
SUBMAN1
07-28-06, 02:38 PM
Perhaps if we dig up all these locations we'll find the remains of Hitler? Then we can send him into a black hole or the sun or something :D
The KGB had Hitler, so good luck!
......Kapitain!!!!! :D
Saw it on the History channel - Soviets took his body at the end of WWII. When the KGB opened up its archives to the Western world in the 1990's, they tried to use it to track where Hitler actually was, but they only found references as to the town where he ended up, but nothing more. I'll see if I can find a link on that one - It is very interesting.
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SUBMAN1
07-28-06, 02:50 PM
Some details - though not the whole story:
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The Fuhrer's elaborate dental bridge work provides the key to a 50-year-old mystery, reports David Stephenson.
NOT WITHOUT some irony, you would imagine, the KGB had labelled the blue cardboard box Operation Myth. Inside, was the evidence that German forensic scientist Dr Mark Benecke hoped would solve one of the great historical riddles of all time: how did Hitler die and what happened to his remains?
Benecke couldn't believe his luck on a visit last year to the Russian State Archive - which had taken possession of the box from the KGB - when an archivist offered to show him its sensational contents. Incongruously stored in a floppy disk box was the charred top of a human skull with a large bullet hole - but did it really belong to one of the most reviled men in history?
Benecke's fascinating story is told in a National Geographic Channel documentary called Hitler's Skull on Tuesday but, oddly, the most interesting aspect of the story does not centre on the skull cap but on Hitler's teeth.
Benecke was the first person outside Russia to see and closely examine the dictator's elaborate dental bridge work.
The KGB - now known as the FSB - had decided to keep the two dental bridges rather than the skull cap and agreed to show them to Benecke. It was a breathtaking discovery. The scientist managed to match the top bridge to a 1944 X-ray of Hitler's head which American and British secret services had recovered from one of his doctors. Benecke says: "Hitler had very bad teeth. Before the war, he had asked his dentist Blaschke to fix his teeth for a final time. He wanted the bridge to survive for many years.
"Blaschke, who had trained in America, made a massive, solid metal bridge for Hitler which was very unusual and easy to recognise.
"Along with rumours that Hitler had very bad breath, I cannot imagine how he and Eva Braun ever kissed!"
Hitler married Braun just 36 hours before they both committed suicide on April 30,1945, as Russian soldiers prepared to storm their bunker in Berlin.
Hitler's remains, along with those of Braun, were incinerated with 140 gallons of petrol. Their bodies were then thrown into a bomb crater in the Chancellery garden, along with other unidentifiable bodies from the nearby hospital.
The German leader had wanted his body burned so that he would avoid the humiliation meted out to fellow fascist Mussolini, whose corpse was strung up before the Italian public.
Later, Hitler's lower jawbone and two dental bridges were found by Red Army soldiers, who put them in a cigar box. The jawbone now seems to have disappeared but the teeth and skull cap were recovered by the Russian secret service.
Dr Benecke, who works with the German police on criminal cases and has a crime show on German television, says his examination and photographs may have helped to solve a 50-year-old mystery.
DR BENECKE added: "This is the first time anyone has pieced the whole thing together: the skull, the teeth and the documentary evidence. As it turned out, I was the first scientist to take pictures of both the teeth and the skull. One colleague had seen them before but that was all.
"It's crucial to take high-resolution pictures. You have to document every millimetre, every inch of the object, which I did. The big difference now is that they allowed me time to examine them thoroughly."
This is not the first time that a skull cap supposedly belonging to Hitler has been shown in public.
Three years ago, the Russian State Archive exhibited a section of a forehead which measured approximately 3.5in by 4.5in, which it said was Adolf Hitler's.
It was slightly darkened by charring and had a bullet hole visible above the left temple but this seems to differ from the section featured on the National Geographic documentary, which shows a bullet hole, possibly an exit wound, at the back of the head. That suggests Hitler had shot himsefrthrough the mouth.
Dr Benecke says: "From a scientific standpoint, we cannot say. EVIDENCE: The metal dental bridge held by Russia's State Archive is proof that Hitler is dead, says Dr Benecke it was definitely Hitler's skull until we check for DNA.
"The piece of skull is also a little too small. Some other parts would have been more helpful in an attempt to identify how old the person was, for instance.
"From a criminologist's standpoint, however, I was talking to the people in the archive and the story is totally conclusive to me. Why would they forge or falsify evidence? It would have been better for them just to let the skull disappear because Stalin didn't want it to be there in the first place. They could have just have thrown it away or something. It makes it all the more believable that it is the real skull."So why was the box labelled Operation Myth? A joke?
He says: "I put it to the archivist that, if I had a box in my shelf called "Operation Myth, I would, for sure, in a secret moment, open it but she said: 'You don't understand how we were working here hi Russian communist times. No one would even touch the box, especially since the RGB had brought it over.'
"That's all part of the riddle because the teeth are still held in the former KGB archive as they were recovered from Berlin by the military police and the secret service. In my opinion, the KGB wanted to leak the information that Hitler was really dead. When Stalin died, someone thought it was safe to do so, so the skull was released to the State Archive. They were probably also fed up with all the nonsense conspiracy stories, too."
THERE WERE many such stories. Depending on which theory you believe, Hitler escaped the bunker alive and fled to Argentina, Tokyo (by submarine as claimed at one point by Stalin) or Brazil. If he were alive today, he would be 114. Dr Benecke insists: "You could challenge the validity of the skull but the teeth are absolutely conclusive. They are definitely Hitler's."
So what has Benecke learned about the last moments of the dictator's life? He says: "Hitler and his officials first tested that the cyanide was still working by killing his pet dog Blondl about a day before the suicide. That's why you can see a picture of the dead dog.
"On the final day, Hitler and Eva Braun were sitting on the sofa on which their bodies were found and, most likely, they took the poison together.
"Hitler then shot Braun before shooting himself. You can see a little of the blood on the side of the sofa, parts of which I examined in the State Archive where they are held."
Dr Benecke says that, as far as he is concerned, any mystery surrounding the death of Hitler is over. He adds: "It's good that I did a proper forensic investigation so that we can continue our lives. It puts the whole Hitler story to rest."
Would Benecke like to do a DNA test to finally confirm that these are definitely Hitler's remains?
"Absolutely," he says. "It was only that I didn't have a sterile drill with me at the time that I didn't take a sample. I would like to do a DNA match but, otherwise, the story is over for me. There is no secret left."
Hitler's Skull, National Geographic Channel, Tuesday, 9pm
http://www.benecke.com/hitler_express.jpg
TteFAboB
07-28-06, 03:23 PM
Remember the other article about the Policical Correctness? People eavesdropping each other?
Well, there you go. It seems the swastika isn't tilted though, the edges are parallel to the "walls" of the "structure".
But it should be easy to find out if the designer was a Nazi or not. I suppose someone will research into it.
It's another cover up, I read loads of books on this subject the Soviet 1945 and Operation Myth 1946 were both botch jobs. How Hitler met his end is still too this day has never been fully explain due to contradicting statements from those who surrendered, I think we can all agree Hitler died in the Bunker. As for his body why didn't the Soviets put it on display like they did with Joseph Goebbels, why did the Soviet 1945 investigation end in a mess which resulted in another investigation.
I am not sure the Soviets ever got their hands on Hitler's body for one fact Hitler's body was taken up to the tee garden to be burnt but the war would continual for another 10 hours, the tee garden suffered a number of direct hits from Soviet artillery for that duration of time.
I tend to think Hitler's body was destroyed but for the Soviets they needed a body knowing how paranoid Stalin was about Hitler they may have lied to Stalin.
.... The hunt for swastikas will most likely continue. Last year, a Swastika Junction (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/145025/Main/145025) was discovered in Florida ...
One must have pretty vivid imagination to see a swastika in there, haha.
Kapitan
07-28-06, 03:54 PM
First of all why bring me into this?
secondly where the heck have you been JJ its been too long!
SUBMAN1
07-28-06, 04:01 PM
.... The hunt for swastikas will most likely continue. Last year, a Swastika Junction (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/145025/Main/145025) was discovered in Florida ...
One must have pretty vivid imagination to see a swastika in there, haha.
I totally agree. The evil politically correct machine is moving on, crushing all in its path!
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Drebbel
07-28-06, 04:20 PM
Political correctness gone insane. :down:
The swastika is hated by many people, it is also offensive to many people. So why not change it.
And I am sure the local goverment is also afraid it might be a popular spot to get visited by Nazis
secondly where the heck have you been JJ its been too long!
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Kapitan
07-28-06, 04:34 PM
LOL JJ i like it :up:
Rockstar
07-29-06, 12:26 AM
So space aliens have gone from making crop circles to things that look like swastikas, what the big deal?
Drebbel
07-29-06, 12:41 AM
So space aliens have gone from making crop circles to things that look like swastikas, what the big deal?
WWII and millions killed, that is the big deal !
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