WIN_XP running into LINUX

[VON_CAPO]

This is not new, but today I made it sucessfully. :p

I would like to share it with whoever interested.

The best part of this:
- No more virus, spyware, hacking, companies spying me ........... :shifty:
- M$ Windows is running isolated from the internet, into a sandbox.

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[Gizzmoe]

Wow, you´ve managed to run WinXP on VMware. That´s very, very impressive... :roll:

;)

[VON_CAPO]

Wow, you´ve managed to run WinXP on VMware. That´s very, very impressive... :roll:

;) It is a huge achievement after 2 weeks fighting against error after error. :)
By the way, I am not trying to impress you, I just want to share it with others Windows users, ---> Yes, other choice is available.
That's it.

[Gizzmoe]

By the way, I am not trying to impress you, I just want to share it with others Windows users, ---> Yes, other choice is available.
It´s an expensive choice, VMware costs about €200. For the vast majority the uses for a WinXP machine under Linux instead of a real WinXP installation are *very* limited.

I´m totally in love with VMware btw, I use it to run and test Linux distros under WinXP.

[VON_CAPO]

It´s an expensive choice, VMware costs about €200. For the vast majority the uses for a WinXP machine under Linux instead of a real WinXP installation are *very* limited.
Vmware Server is for free ---> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ :yep::yep::yep:
And you can run any virtual machine with Vmware Player, it is for free too ---> http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ (http://www.vmware.com/products/player/):yep::yep::yep:

Enjoy, :up:

[Gizzmoe]

Good to know that VMware Server, which also can run under XP, is free now (the Workstation version isn´t for whatever reason). Anyway, the point still is that for most users it´s no alternative to a real Windows installation. It´s still great though.

[VON_CAPO]

Good to know that the VMware server is free now (the Workstation version isn´t for whatever reason). Anyway, the point still is that for most users it´s no alternative to a real Windows installation. It´s still great though. In my particular case, I use Linux as my first OS and I have a second computer with WinXP for gaming, of course the XP computer is without internet connection at all (too dangerous).

The Vmware's purpose is to use some especializated design software running only with XP, but into Linux.

This is very handy, and I avoid the inconvenience of double booting.
At the same time I can work in another tasks and to be connected to the internet with Linux. :smug:

[kiwi_2005]

Is this better than just having a dual OS setup? Say Mandrake & XP.

Why not just run XP on one drive and linux on the other.

[bradclark1]

of course the XP computer is without internet connection at all (too dangerous).
I've had XP for three years and I have yet to catch anything from the internet. I would say thats pretty safe.

[Gizzmoe]

In my particular case, I use Linux as my first OS and I have a second computer with WinXP for gaming
Great!

of course the XP computer is without internet connection at all (too dangerous).
My XP machine is connected to the Internet 16 hours per day, 7 days per week and I don´t have any problems. You could route the Internet traffic through the Linux system to XP if you are too paranoid to connect the machine directly.

[Gizzmoe]

Why not just run XP on one drive and linux on the other.
Because it´s a pain in the ass to reboot to another OS.

If you are happy with Linux, use Linux. If you are happy with Windows, use Windows. There should be no need to switch to another OS several times per day. It makes for example no sense to play games under XP and then reboot to Linux just because you want to use Internet. If you want to test an OS or need to develop things for another OS use VMware.

[SUBMAN1]

Why not just run XP on one drive and linux on the other.
Because it´s a pain in the ass to reboot to another OS.

If you are happy with Linux, use Linux. If you are happy with Windows, use Windows. There should be no need to switch to another OS several times per day. It makes for example no sense to play games under XP and then reboot to Linux just because you want to use Internet. If you want to test an OS or need to develop things for another OS use VMware.

Best plan - use both!

Both have their pluses and minuses. Both have a ton of software created for them. The best media player app in existance runs exclusevely on Linux for example. WIndows has the edge on software titles, but most things cost money on Windows where they are free on Linux. I'll quit here, but the point is - if you use only one OS, you are missing out!

-S

PS. Dual booting is not a big deal - takes all of 15 seconds on a decently fast machine

[Gizzmoe]

The best media player app in existance runs exclusevely on Linux for example.
The best media player app in existance? What does it do that a Windows player can´t?

I mostly use VLC media player:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

WIndows has the edge on software titles, but most things cost money on Windows where they are free on Linux.
There are tons of free software for Windows. I use free antivirus, anti-spyware, Open Office, image viewer/converter, email, newsreader, browser, instant message software, video/audio/graphics software, text editor, file manager, virtual CD software, encryption software and file compressors.

PS. Dual booting is not a big deal - takes all of 15 seconds on a decently fast machine

15 seconds? I don´t think so. It takes quite a bit longer to go from the Windows desktop to the KDE/Gnome desktop of a standard Linux distro.

[VON_CAPO]

Best plan - use both!

Both have their pluses and minuses. Both have a ton of software created for them. The best media player app in existance runs exclusevely on Linux for example. WIndows has the edge on software titles, but most things cost money on Windows where they are free on Linux. I'll quit here, but the point is - if you use only one OS, you are missing out!

-S
Because it´s a pain in the ass to reboot to another OS.

Both are right.

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[sonar732]

I noticed your Ubuntu emblem in the upper right...good choice!:up::rock:

[P_Funk]

Thanks to my dad I have XP, Kubuntu, Fedora, SuSe 10, and Arch Linux.
I will say that of them all SuSe is my favourite. It is very useful having everything that Win XP has except its all better and it is incredibly fast for having such a pretty GUI. If I only had the time to get Cedega working I'd be able to game it upon Linux and that would pretty much eliminate my need for Windows. But windows has me conditioned to its interface so its still hard to change over to something unfamiliar. That said Ive heard that Vista is a hog and so I mgiht finally have the impetus to change over permanently.

[xrvjorn]

It is a huge achievement after 2 weeks fighting against error after error. :)

Could you elaborate on this and how you got it working? I've just started playing with Ubuntu and am interested in doing what you do.

[Rilder]

I was just wondering how good is Linux? right now were building up one of old computers for my second official computer project :p and once shes running switching her over to linux, since my dad has always wanted to try a linux machine (he likes penguins)

[xrvjorn]

I was just wondering how good is Linux?

There is still more software available for Windows, but a Linux distro like Ubuntu is more feature packed 'out of the box'. I just started the installation program and a few clicks later I had a running system with Mozilla, OpenOffice, the Gimp etc ready to go. There's an install option on the main menu that lets you download and install a large selection of software by just clicking a checkbox in a list.

I don't think Linux for the desktop ever will quite catch up with it's commercial competitors Windows and Mac OS X, but it may have reached the point where you could use it without feeling the need for more bells and whistles.

Servers are different beast than desktops, and Linux is big on them. Some people, for example Oracle's flamboyant head honcho Larry Ellison, think that Linux will completely dominate the server market in the future.

[VON_CAPO]

It is a huge achievement after 2 weeks fighting against error after error. :)
Could you elaborate on this and how you got it working? I've just started playing with Ubuntu and am interested in doing what you do. Check this out --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209 (MUST READ)

Also:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware (differences among versions)
- http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to (for Mac)
- http://developer.kde.org/~binner/vmware/ (http://developer.kde.org/%7Ebinner/vmware/)
- http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
- http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/16/1940214
- http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=437314 (MUST READ)

I noticed your Ubuntu emblem in the upper right...good choice!:up::rock:
Thanks. Ubuntu rocks. :rock::rock::rock:

[VON_CAPO]

I was just wondering how good is Linux?
There is still more software available for Windows, but a Linux distro like Ubuntu is more feature packed 'out of the box'. I just started the installation program and a few clicks later I had a running system with Mozilla, OpenOffice, the Gimp etc ready to go. There's an install option on the main menu that lets you download and install a large selection of software by just clicking a checkbox in a list.

I don't think Linux for the desktop ever will quite catch up with it's commercial competitors Windows and Mac OS X, but it may have reached the point where you could use it without feeling the need for more bells and whistles.

Servers are different beast than desktops, and Linux is big on them. Some people, for example Oracle's flamboyant head honcho Larry Ellison, think that Linux will completely dominate the server market in the future. You can get Ubuntu with full "bells and whistles" en less than 2 hours with a script called "Automatix"

- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190025 (Must Read)
- Automatix home page http://www.getautomatix.com/

Automatix features:

Introduction
This is a graphical interface for installation of a lot of apps on (X)ubuntu DAPPER (DOES NOT WORK ON Breezy Warty or Hoary) and for tweaking a few things to get your Ubuntu box up and working in full throttle in the quickest possible timespan.Features
Shoots up xterm for full debug info (giving you a good idea about the status of your download , changes being made to your system, etc)
Deletes all downloaded files (except those downloaded by apt-get) automatically after installation.
Automatix does not overwrite anything without making a date_and_time_based backup.
When the user installs a new version of automatix, it automatically uninstalls and replaces the last version.
Automatix will refuse to run if user has synaptic/update-manager/apt-get/dpkg running and will exit gracefully.
Automatix will give the user the option to restore his/her original sources.list after finishing all installations.Please note: Some options require manual intervention and clicking.
Capabilities
Installs multimedia codecs
Installs Flashplayer Plugin for FF
Installs RAR, ACE and UNRAR archive support - BD
Installs skype
Installs Acrobat reader 7 and firefox plugin for the same.
Installs Gnomebaker (CD/DVD burning s/w for GNOME)
Installs gftp (FTP client for GNOME with ssh capability)
Installs Frostwire (GPL clone of Limewire)
Installs multimedia editors (Audacity (audio), Kino (video), EasyTag (ID3))
Installs DVD (dvdrip) ripper
Installs Mplayer and mplayerplug for Firefox
Installs totem-xine, Realplayer, VLC and Beep Media Player (with docklet)
Installs Opera Browser 9.0
Installs Debian Menu (shows all installed applications) (this kills and restarts your gnome-panel without warning u but its a completely harmless operation!)
Installs Bittornado and Azureus (Bittorrent clients)
Installs Avidemux (Video editing tool) (New version 2.1.0)
Enables Numlock on (turns numlock on Gnome startup)
Installs Programming Tools (Anjuta (C/C++ IDE), Bluefish (HTML editor), Screem (Web Development Env.) and NVU (HTML editor))
Install GnomePPP (Graphical Dial up connection tool)
Installs Extra Fonts
Configures ctrl-alt-del to start gnome-system-monitor (aka windows)
Installs Streamripper and Streamtuner
Installs NON-FREE audio and dvd codecs
Installs Laptop Wifi
Upgrades Gaim to Beta 2.0
Adds 3 nautilus scripts (open any file with gedit as root; open a nautilus window as root in any folder; open gnome search tool in any folder (Right click in a nautilus window and look under "scripts")
Installs SUN'S JAVA JRE version 1.5 & FF plugin
Installs SUN'S JAVA JDK version 1.5
Installs wine (u need to run winecfg manually after installation)
Enables ejection of CD when CDROM drive button is pressed.
Installs AMSN 0.95 (MSN client with webcam support)
Installs BUM (Boot-up Manager)
Installs DCPP (Linux DC++ client)
Installs sbackup (Backup and restoration solution)
Installs the latest version of Rhythmbox
installs gdesklets (GNOME eyecandy) and adds gdesklets to GNOME startup
NVIDIA cards (Detects Nvidia cards and installs drivers) (Needs a restart)
Installs Firefox plugins
Installs Mozilla-Thunderbird 1.5 (US-only version) (no support for non-US-english language packs and enigmail)
Installs Swiftfox Browser and it's plugins
Installs Liferea
Installs Gnucash
Installs Security Suite (Firestarter Firewall and Clam Antivirus)
Installs Google Earth
Installs Beagle

[VON_CAPO]

New method, but using "Qemu"

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