Delta Force video

[SUBMAN1]

A cool vid to watch, if you like AC/DC

-S

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/?action=view&current=2004DeltaInformalVersion01_WMVforPo.flv

[Kurushio]

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[SUBMAN1]

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Huh?

-S

[Kurushio]

Well, first I wrote that I thought I recognised one of 'em...not personally, I mean from the web. There's quite a famous spec ops forces bloke...called Ghost, bearded fellow...rides a horse wearing arabic clothing mostly. But then I remembered the guy isn't Delta. Though I have my doubts these are Delta...probably a joke by some 82nd troops. You know there's a running joke in the US military about (how they like to call them) DELTA OMFG !!!1111. I don't know....just seems a mishmash of different units...the video, I mean.

I'm not an expert, but I do know when something doesn't quite feel right...

edit: Oh yeah...and the fact that I'm pretty sure that Delta don't go on patrol.

[SUBMAN1]

Well, first I wrote that I thought I recognised one of 'em...not personally, I mean from the web. There's quite a famous spec ops forces bloke...called Ghost, bearded fellow...rides a horse wearing arabic clothing mostly. But then I remembered the guy isn't Delta. Though I have my doubts these are Delta...probably a joke by some 82nd troops. You know there's a running joke in the US military about (how they like to call them) DELTA OMFG !!!1111. I don't know....just seems a mishmash of different units...the video, I mean.

I'm not an expert, but I do know when something doesn't quite feel right...

edit: Oh yeah...and the fact that I'm pretty sure that Delta don't go on patrol.

I do know they conduct raids, so it could be too and from a raid. Also, dressing up like the enemy is a typical tactic, and I heard a big hoopla about it over here because our guys were guarding the Afgani pres, but they were trying to blend in and look arab by not shaving, etc, and some press guy got a hold of it and made a big deal about how our guys looked so unprofessional! What a bunch of stupid reporters! The very fact they looked so Arab and unshaven makes me thing the very opposite!

-S

[Kurushio]

I know they dress up as arabs...but what I dont find credible about the video is 1) Too many patches on the BDUs... 2) In one part they were on patrol...something Delta doesn't do. 3) Too many day operations... 4) You wont find vids on Delta (this already makes it likely that the vid is a joke) 5) Fort Brag home of the 82nd...they hate Delta...so I've heard 6) They all have conventional M4s 7) There are too many of them and 8) They don't seem to hide their faces (which spec op forces are required to do)


...too many nuances....I'm pretty sure it's a hoax:up:

[SUBMAN1]

I know they dress up as arabs...but what I dont find credible about the video is 1) Too many patches on the BDUs... 2) In one part they were on patrol...something Delta doesn't do. 3) Too many day operations... 4) You wont find vids on Delta (this already makes it likely that the vid is a joke) 5) Fort Brag home of the 82nd...they hate Delta...so I've heard 6) They all have conventional M4s 7) There are too many of them and 8) They don't seem to hide their faces (which spec op forces are required to do)


...too many nuances....I'm pretty sure it's a hoax:up:

Conventional M4's are their tradmark, but they also have some weapons that can't be found anywhere else. THeir unit is large than 5 guys! Estimated size is 2,500. Also, their headquaters is Fort Bragg, so I doubt the 82nd hates them:

The unit is headquartered in a remote section of the U.S. Army’s sprawling Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

Info on the weapons:

Delta's unconventional nature also allows its operators to carry highly customized weapons. Although their standard weapon of choice may be the M4 carbine they also use the SOPDMOD kit on the M4, it is not unusual to find them carrying foreign weapon systems that are often used by the enemy in the Area of Operation (AO). This is to either help them "blend in" with the locals or to use the ammunition from slain enemy fighters.

The vid is probably accurate.

-S

[joea]

Well you guys both make good points, but I am inclined to agree with Kurishio's point that "Special Forces" are well , "special." I thought keeping a low ID profile was SOP for these guys as well as others like the SAS etc. :hmm:

[SUBMAN1]

Well you guys both make good points, but I am inclined to agree with Kurishio's point that "Special Forces" are well , "special." I thought keeping a low ID profile was SOP for these guys as well as others like the SAS etc. :hmm:

He maybe right since their identities are typically hidden, but then again, they always where sunglasses!

The 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (Airborne) (1st SFOD-D (A)), commonly known as Delta within the U.S. Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army) or as Delta Force by the general public (officially recognized by the Pentagon as the Combat Applications Group), is a Special Operations Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Special_Operations_Forces) (SOF) and an element of the Joint Special Operations Command (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Special_Operations_Command) (JSOC).
The force's main task is Counter-Terrorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Terrorism), although it is extremely versatile. Delta Force is believed to conduct missions similar to those regularly attributed to the British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) Special Air Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service) (SAS), after which it was modelled.


Background

The Pentagon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon) tightly controls information about Delta Force and publicly refuses to comment on the secretive unit. The unit took part in Operation Eagle Claw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw), the failed attempt to rescue American hostages from the U.S. Embassy in Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran) in 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980). The mission failed due to an overly-complex plan, inadequate Special Operations Aviation training for the aircrews, a collision between a rescue helicopter and a re-fuelling tanker aircraft and mechanical problems with the helicopters transporting the rescuers, caused by a severe sandstorm clogging the engine intakes and reducing visibility to nothing. After the debacle, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/160th_Special_Operations_Aviation_Regiment_%28Airb orne%29) was created to transport special forces personnel to and from Areas of Operation. [1] (http://online.nps.navy.mil/vu_sample_modules/os2100_ol_mod/microsoftpowerpointprojectonebackgroundv2.pdf) [2] (http://www.usmc.mil/history.nsf/0/A192B055F6AC6625852564D70059CA7B?OpenDocument) (PDFs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF))
Since the 1990s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s), the Army has posted recruitment notices for the 1st SFOD-D [3] (http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Archive%20News%20Pages/2002/020628-recruit.html) [4] (http://www.carson.army.mil/pao/MountaineerArchive/2003%20Archive/01-16-03.pdf) [5] (http://huachuca-www.army.mil/USAG/PAO/2003scouts/The%20Scout%2013%20Nov%2003.pdf) (PDF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF) files), which many believe refers to Delta Force. The Army, however, has never released an official fact sheet for the force.
In 1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999), writer Mark Bowden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Bowden) published the book Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down:_A_Story_of_Modern_War) which chronicles the events that surrounded the October 3, 1993 Battle of Mogadishu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_3%2C_1993_Battle_of_Mogadishu). The book, in a short brief, relates Delta Force's involvement in the operations that occurred before the events leading to the battle. The book was later turned into a film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down) by director Ridley Scott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott) in 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001).
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Operations

According to the book Inside Delta Force by CSM Eric L. Haney (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/) (ret.), the smallest unit is a team, consisting of four to five members. Each team specializes in HALO/HAHO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HALO_HAHO), SCUBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUBA), or other skill groups. The next tier is the troop level, consisting of four to five teams. Finally, squadron level (there are four squadrons) consists of two troops (Assault and Sniper). Squadrons are broken down into troops and teams as needed to fit mission requirements.
Each individual member of Delta is known as an operator such as in the Australian SAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_SAS). This was to avoid confusion with the CIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA)'s term operative.
Recruitment and training

Most recruits come from the United States Army Special Forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Special_Forces) (Green Berets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Special_Forces)) and 75th Ranger Regiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/75th_Ranger_Regiment), but recruits are also drawn from all branches of the Army, including the Army Reserve and Army National Guard.
Contrary to popular belief, Delta Force does not recruit its members solely from the Army.The truth, as reflected by a Marine Corps bulletin,[6] (http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Archive%20News%20Pages/2002/020628-recruit.html) is that Delta Force recruits from all four U.S. armed services.
Their main compound, called the Security Operations Training Facility, stands in a remote area of Fort Bragg, North Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Bragg%2C_North_Carolina) and is thought to house about 2,500 personnel. Reports of the compound mention numerous shooting facilities for close-quarters battle, long-range sniping and counter-sniping, a dive tank, an Olympic size swimming pool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_size_swimming_pool), a huge climbing wall, and a mock-up of an airliner.
Potential Delta Force operators reportedly undergo an extremely rigorous training regime.
Delta Force is also thought to regularly train for the war-time missions of kidnapping and assassination.
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Delta Force in modern conflicts

One of several operations in which Delta Force operators are thought to have played important roles was the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq"]invasion (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/) of Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq) in 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003). [7] (http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/03autumn/noonan.pdf) (PDF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF) file) They allegedly entered Baghdad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad) in advance, undercover with long hair and moustaches, along with SEALs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Navy_SEALs) from DEVGRU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_SIX), guiding air strikes, building networks of informants while eavesdropping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eavesdropping) on and sabotaging Iraqi communication lines.
The force was also involved in the offensive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._invasion_of_Afghanistan) against the Taliban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban) in Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan) in 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002). [8] (http://www.hq.usace.army.mil/cepa/pubs/sep03/story13.htm) Many observers strongly suspect that members of Delta Force made up one of two units involved in a raid on a residence belonging to Mullah Omar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullah_Omar). According to The Pentagon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon), the level of resistance to that operation was minimal.
The Mullah was not present but some papers and computer disks were said to have been seized in the raid. Critics later alleged that the second unit was unnecessary, claiming that it was very large and uncoordinated. As a result, they say, the defenders were alerted early and the number of friendly casualties was in fact higher than reported. According to the book Shadow Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shadow_Wars&action=edit) by David Pugliese (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Pugliese&action=edit), Delta operators wanted a quiet insertion method which was denied as command opted for a combined Ranger Assault. Taliban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban) fighters apparently ambushed the team when they were extracting and several Delta operators were severely wounded.
Delta Force operators are granted an enormous amount of flexibility and autonomy, as with their Navy counterpart, DEVGRU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEVGRU). They reportedly do not maintain any general uniformed presence and civilian clothing is the norm on or off duty while at Ft. Bragg. This is done to conceal the identities of these "secret soldiers". Uniforms are rarely worn, if at all, with any markings, names, or branch names on them. Hair styles and facial hair are allowed to grow to civilian standards in order for the force to be able to blend in and not be immediately recognized as military personnel.
This special status that sets the force apart from the "regular army" is depicted quite accurately in the book Black Hawk Down (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down) by Mark Bowden, and the film of the same name. The Army Rangers in the media, elite by their own right, have the standard "high and tight" haircuts, yet the Delta operators are seen to be sporting much longer styles with side burns, un-shaven faces, and non-military issue helmets (actually hockey helmets, more to protect from bumps and scrapes while entering buildings than against gunfire, as noted in the book) and boots.
According to Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Down:_A_Story_of_Modern_War), Delta Force members are typically referred to by other personnel as "D-Boys," "Operators," "Rocks," or simply "Delta." The book also mentions that they hold little regard for rank within their force and refer to one another only by nicknames. Throughout the book Delta soldiers are recorded as expressing contempt for other, more regular US Army units, dismissing their training and combat performance. The Rangers on the other hand are throughout recorded as being in awe of the Delta soldiers, who were almost invariably older and with much greater skill and experience.
Delta's unconventional nature also allows its operators to carry highly customized weapons. Although their standard weapon of choice may be the M4 carbine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine) they also use the SOPDMOD kit on the M4, it is not unusual to find them carrying foreign weapon systems that are often used by the enemy in the Area of Operation (AO). This is to either help them "blend in" with the locals or to use the ammunition from slain enemy fighters.
Additionally, in his book "Killing Pablo," Mark Bowden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Bowden) suggests that a Delta Force sniper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper) may have assassinated Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Escobar). There is no hard evidence of this though and credit is generally attributed to Colombian security forces.

[SUBMAN1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force

[Kurushio]

Ok, apart from Wiki...I can probably go over the video and find lots of reasons why they can't be Delta...from patches on BDUs, vehicle types, strange video sequences, etc etc. But it'll probably be time consuming...so please don't ask me to do it. But rest assured...I have a "feel" for this type of thing...and I'm pretty sure it isn't Delta. :up:

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Ok, just one...start the video...in the first ten seconds you have 2 men (1 bearded) by a BMW where their faces are shown clearly, without sunglass.

edit: Probably the guys at the beginning are contractors who wanted to make out they were in Delta...so they put themselves at the start and a mishmash of crap they found on the net (I mean...I didn't know Delta pilots flew A10s)...the only thng which is geniune, is when they went to Fort Bragg to film the sign.

[Happy Times]

Delta Omfg !!!1111 :rock: