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I always go by the rule that Dead is Dead and if I get pounded then that's my career over and it is time to start again.
It is a bummer cause I like to build my crew up and promote them and watch their experiance build and when I got to start over with a buch that I don't know it takes a bit to get used to, I use SH3cmdr 2.6 and the random crew function which gives you a nice sprinkling of experianced crew with the nubs.
How many of you guys/girls do the same..
I always go by the rule that Dead is Dead and if I get pounded then that's my career over and it is time to start again.
It is a bummer cause I like to build my crew up and promote them and watch their experiance build and when I got to start over with a buch that I don't know it takes a bit to get used to, I use SH3cmdr 2.6 and the random crew function which gives you a nice sprinkling of experianced crew with the nubs.
How many of you guys/girls do the same..
Depends on what mood i'm in..before i downloaded GW i used to roll back and load up a saved file..but now i do go by the unwritten rule of dead is dead...i enjoy it more, no more fool hardy tactics. :D
JScones
07-14-06, 10:17 PM
Yep. For me, DiD. I then start a new career from the beginning of the following month with a new Kaleun (who always happens to be one of the dead Kaleun's many younger brothers) and continue on through the war. I'm up to Brother #3, Feb '43.
Just tempers any renegade tendencies I might have.
Ducimus
07-14-06, 10:18 PM
Heh, i used to name, every uboat i ever lost playing DiD in my sig until i ran into a problem of having too many boats to list, and too little of space to list them in.
I usually play IX boats and start in 42. Ive only survived the war, once. I almost surived another time, but lost the boat late 1944. Most of the time, if im going to lose a boat, it ill happen late 43, early 44. Although i think the earliest ive lost a boat is in 42. Most of my losses are to aircraft. I think ive lost a boat to depthcharging, only once that i can remember, maybe twice.
Yes, air craft are lethal arn't they, I usualy can move out of the way of depth charges but I still have a tendancy to stay on the surface and try and knock down aircraft instead of a quick evasive manouvre and the crash dive.
kiwi_2005
07-14-06, 11:27 PM
If its early in the campaign i will but after 1944 if i die i usually do a reload.
I play dead is dead as well for pretty much the same reasons given already.Keeps you from using foolish tactics and doing things no real sub driver would do,like taking on destroyers with the deck gun.As well as it keeps me playing alot more cautiously and more like a true hunter instead of charging headlong into a fight.
Yep...Dead = Dead...Time to start anew
Seminole
07-15-06, 12:53 AM
No. I don't see limiting my options.
Yep ,for me also DiD.I have been trying for a long time to take the war 1939->1945 .That's all easy untill about 43-44 but then it's like hell .
HunterICX
07-15-06, 05:31 AM
:up: Dead is Dead, because when you get pounded by DC's you will try to stay alive! and ofcourse its an relief when you lost the Destroyers and survived.
and your'e like OW BLOODY HELL!!!! HOW COULD I BE SO STUPID:damn: ....arrrrr....Well...New Career!
What I might do is take the Month and Year and start an new career in the same year when I died last time. and I pick the same boat I used..:up:
I load savegames if I die, but that doesn`t mean that I am going after destroyers with the deck gun.
D-I-D!:rock:
This makes attack runs and bein' DC'ed more of a nerve thing!
Sailor Steve
07-15-06, 01:09 PM
Yes.
Unless the game cheats and kills me for reasons of it's own.
Then I cheat right back.
Yes.
Unless the game cheats and kills me for reasons of it's own.
Then I cheat right back.
Yep, this is my philosophy also. I play D.I.D. but in one instance I had a very nice patrol and was going home to St. Nav. all torpedos spent, I plotted a safe path (early '42) out of the reach of air cover and upped the time compression, surfaced, set to standard speed and stopped paying attention....next thing I know my forward compartments are red....I am taking damage, I pause the game and try to figure out what is going on....see no other boats, no airplanes...set the TC to 1 again and get the repair crews working...take more damage and sink...WTF! I was south of Ireland at the time (well south...out in the deeps) In this case I did go back to an earlier save and continue...unfortunantly I my most recent save was at the beginning of the patrol and I lost ~ 25K in tons sunk (would have been a total of ~30K). I think that was the most irritated I have ever been with SHIII! Not sure if I was just unlucky and with lottery like chances rammed something or if SHIII just decided it had enough of me.
Yes:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
As my SHIII is atm limited only to WaW, I have to answer yes. And to add my personal WaW rule; I have only 2 'lives'. So If I die two times, itīs over for me. No more WaW. ;) I just finished my 3rd patrol and I have to reconsider the rule. I was rammed by DD and my HI was down to 25%, then got bombed by RAF and HI went down to 21%, not to mention I lost one crew member. RIP Bootsmann Herbert Kriegel. :cry:
As my SHIII is atm limited only to WaW, I have to answer yes. And to add my personal WaW rule; I have only 2 'lives'. So If I die two times, itīs over for me. No more WaW. ;) I just finished my 3rd patrol and I have to reconsider the rule. I was rammed by DD and my HI was down to 25%, then got bombed by RAF and HI went down to 21%, not to mention I lost one crew member. RIP Bootsmann Herbert Kriegel. :cry:
Oi, sorry mate! Been a tuff patrol eh! It can be rather disturbing, that in the early patrols one can get so beaten up!:shifty:
Maybe you should consider takin' a desk job!;) Or go out there an show 'em who's boss!:rock:;)
To consider that I sank 9 of their merchants, itīs ok if they are just a liiiittle pissed. :rotfl:
Deep Six
07-15-06, 05:58 PM
Dead is Dead always with me, that's prolly why I never get farther then the end of 1940....:oops: .... I do something daft and pay dearly for it.......It's the reckless streak in me.......Gung-Ho!!!!!
Deep Six
Wulfmann
07-15-06, 06:06 PM
Yes.
Unless the game cheats and kills me for reasons of it's own.
Then I cheat right back.
DiD even if the game cheats, the game made a mistake I forgot and left the TC at 2048 and disintegrated the boat against the dock.
DiD no matter what.
My reasoning?
In real life nothing was fair so why should I expect this to always be fair.
When I start making any excuse at all I lesson the simple fact the real a Kaleun could not redo, fair or not.
Wulfmann
U-snafu
07-15-06, 06:29 PM
dead is dead--and i always start back in 1939. have not been able to get past april 40, norway in my duck yet:oops: . cannot wait to see what the game has to offer in the later years! I keep hearing talk on these forums about IXC and VIIC--what are those??:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
dead is dead--and i always start back in 1939. have not been able to get past april 40, norway in my duck yet:oops: . cannot wait to see what the game has to offer in the later years! I keep hearing talk on these forums about IXC and VIIC--what are those??:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I know the feeling.
I also always start in 1939 and for awhile I could could not get near mid 1941.I was dead before the USA ever entered the war.
Now some time later and alot smarter in my playing I can live for alot longer now before dying a horrible death.I have yet to see the end of the war though:damn: .
andy_311
07-15-06, 06:38 PM
Yes.
Unless the game cheats and kills me for reasons of it's own.
Then I cheat right back.
DiD even if the game cheats, the game made a mistake I forgot and left the TC at 2048 and disintegrated the boat against the dock.
DiD no matter what.
My reasoning?
In real life nothing was fair so why should I expect this to always be fair.
When I start making any excuse at all I lesson the simple fact the real a Kaleun could not redo, fair or not.
Wulfmann
The game does cheat my last patrol I took out the AS convoy (42-late43)out of Port of Spain Took most of it out apart from 1 Somner class dd and a Trooptransport, the rest were toast the game respawned the p/liner twice and twice I sank it it said "Enemy unit destroyed" I even seen her sink NO CREDIT a bit later same thing happened again shelled her first at around 3500m them fired a fish at her "enemy unit destroyed" no credit again so why should I play DiD and this is GW 8 fish in total fired on a liner an no credits for it.
Ducimus
07-15-06, 07:09 PM
A couple of my more painful DiD memories:
U-189, IXC:
11 patrols (627 days at sea), Boat lost august, 1944, on her 11th patrol.
U-518, IXC,
8 patrols (515 days at sea), boat lost in may, 1944 on her 8th patrol.
irish1958
07-15-06, 10:24 PM
I have killed more u-boat crews than the entire British and American navies did.
irish1958
Well U313 a VIIC was just lost with all hands after 5 patrols and 4 ships sunk..
U506 a IXC has had her shake down cruise and around 2/3 of the crew have been assigned their speciality and she has been painted with the med camo and will depart shortly on her first war patrol.
Phylacista
07-16-06, 04:52 AM
When I started to play I did reloads - when torpedos were poorly aimed, when I was detected while testing the limits of surface attacks on convoys... - now I see this was very helpfull to get a feeling for the limits.
With DiD it is far more demanding and exciting: Like W@W I like to pick a historic kaleun (like in my sig) and see how I will fare compared with him.
In my W@W career it is the same and even more exciting because I am part of a community and when I die it has more impact than only to me.
As for the game cheating on me: Yes, when I ram the dock at the S entry of the Kiel kanal at high time compression I do a reload - even when the captain did take a nap the watch crew did not turn blind.
At the beginning of my SH3 playin, i played the game like every other game.
Meaning; if i got DC'ed to death i did reload. If i missed some Shots at a Tanker or such i did reload too.
And i warped to port everytime!
I was thinking how cool i am as a Kaleun. Ya know, high tonnage, and 15 and more patrols. However...
But later i understood that it isn't that easy, and i started to play this as a Sim, in the real way.
Today...well I rarely last more than 2 years into the war! Doin' the 'DID variant is more taxing but also more rewarding!
I remember a 3 hour real time pounding and my boot got beaten up real bad! That was when i was close to despair, I never thought I'm gonna make it, but imagine the joy when i survived and surfaced later! :rock:
Way back i wouldn't bother! I would just reload! I would even reload only because of an DC that got lucky and got me realy good!
Playing it the hard way? No...Simmin' it the real way!:yep:
robj250
07-16-06, 09:45 AM
Sorry guys, but I don't play Dead is Dead because of my poor health. I want to finish the war. If I do, then I'll begin an new career and go Dead is Dead and see how far I can get and see if I learned anything.
Yes D-I-D, and i haven't got past to 1944 yet...always buy the farm on 1943
robj250
07-16-06, 12:37 PM
Yes D-I-D, and i haven't got past to 1944 yet...always buy the farm on 1943
Yes, the warships escorting convoys in July 1943, give a U-boat a pretty good harrassing. I've managed to avoid them so far. I am sitting, silent running with 4 warships and 11 merchants (sound contacts so far) in really rough sea and the warships know I am here waiting somewhere because they keep looking for me and dropping DCs all around me, not even close :rotfl: . I just hope they let me get into the middle of this convoy so I can spend my last 7 bow torpedoes and then sneak the heck out of there and get back to St. Nazaire. If they find you and are pinging, you got to be good to out-manoever them. They don't give up too easy now.
Phylacista
07-16-06, 01:15 PM
Today...well I rarely last more than 2 years into the war! Doin' the 'DID variant is more taxing but also more rewarding!
I remember a 3 hour real time pounding and my boot got beaten up real bad! That was when i was close to despair, I never thought I'm gonna make it, but imagine the joy when i survived and surfaced later! :rock:
That describes it very well. I think in W@W, if I survive for more than 2 years just surviving with no additional tonnage is an option. Why not play it safe and survive -waiting for a desk job? I think in real life they did not take too much risks, too - or died.
I always go by the rule that Dead is Dead and if I get pounded then that's my career over and it is time to start again.
It is a bummer cause I like to build my crew up and promote them and watch their experiance build and when I got to start over with a buch that I don't know it takes a bit to get used to, I use SH3cmdr 2.6 and the random crew function which gives you a nice sprinkling of experianced crew with the nubs.
How many of you guys/girls do the same..
I do the same thing. If I die, thats it, my career is over and time to start another one. I also use SH3 Commander 2.6, but I like to transfer my commissioned officers off the boat when they have earned their IC 2nd class and get Oberfahnrich's so I can help train them and promote them to commissioned officers.
Sailor Steve
07-16-06, 02:32 PM
Yes.
Unless the game cheats and kills me for reasons of it's own.
Then I cheat right back.
DiD even if the game cheats, the game made a mistake I forgot and left the TC at 2048 and disintegrated the boat against the dock.
DiD no matter what.
My reasoning?
In real life nothing was fair so why should I expect this to always be fair.
When I start making any excuse at all I lesson the simple fact the real a Kaleun could not redo, fair or not.
Wulfmann
Good points. I have to admit that sometimes my thinking changes, so I have to reign myself in.
dead is dead--and i always start back in 1939. have not been able to get past april 40, norway in my duck yet:oops: . cannot wait to see what the game has to offer in the later years! I keep hearing talk on these forums about IXC and VIIC--what are those??:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
In keeping with my old habit from SHI I run concurrent careers-one from each available flotilla. If one of them dies I start a new career from that port at the beginning of the next month. This way I slowly progress through the war a little at a time.
Salvadoreno
07-16-06, 02:48 PM
To consider that I sank 9 of their merchants, itīs ok if they are just a liiiittle pissed. :rotfl:
Hey Dowly whats your persona? Im Herman Linne of the 2.Flotilla Commander of U35. I also faired very well last patrol, 7 ships sunk. WaW is the only way to go for me! Ive yet to get pinned by a warship but ill be really nervous when i do, i dont wanna lose my guy!
DiD unless the game cheats OR I make a stupid mistake, like pressing D by accident with max TC
Frenssen
07-16-06, 08:13 PM
DID unless I get killed by time compression, usually destroyers ramming my boat in heavy fog before I get an idea of what is going on. I prefer to at least know what is responsible for my demise.
No no, either you play for 100% realismen and that means when you're dead You can't play anymore
(throw the game out).
(I'm ironic)
Markus
Cdre Gibs
07-17-06, 05:22 AM
I cant play DiD. 17 full careers (1939-1945) an never been sunk. Been bombed, shelled, DC, Ramed, Kamikazied and taken a beating for sure, but never sunk. I cant recall the amount of times I have just scraped home with HI down in the single digits. And I always have over several million tons at the end of the career. Anything less and I'm not doing it right.
Yes its at 100% with my own mods, that make NYGM look like kindygarden!
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