u-boot.realsimulation.com site defaced...

[U-Bones]

htt-----p://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ has been defaced.

I would discourage using any files you may get from that site for a while ;)

[Pants]

I REALLY hate people like this...why dont they find something else to do...i know Go and play in on-coming traffic!! :down::down:

[Sir Big Jugs]

:o:o:o:damn::damn::damn::o:o:o

[Ducimus]

If the hackers are really russian as the new index screen would seem to indicate, then id definatly avoid anything from that site, and most certainly NOT click on the link the hackers provided.

Russian spyware, viruses and the like are the bloody worst. Pick up one of those, and i garuntee you, if you have any valuable data that prohibits wiping the disk and reinstalling, you'll spend the next month trying to weed the bloody thing out of your system, IF you ever FULLY get it out.

[Drebbel]

Indeed, it now looks like this:

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2818/3467476642yn.th.png (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3467476642yn.png)

Click the picture to zoom in

[Sir Big Jugs]

I emailed them!:yep:

[Ducimus]

I emailed them!:yep:

Unless its an anonymous email account you used taht can't be traced back to you, that was incredibly stupid.

[Sir Big Jugs]

No viruses on their site as it seems.:nope:

[Ducimus]

you realize you leave a fringerprint where ever you go on the internet don't you?

[Sir Big Jugs]

It is an anonymous account.:cool:

[Sir Big Jugs]

you realize you leave a fringerprint where ever you go on the internet don't you?

Oh yes. I've noticed it.:yep:

[Sir Big Jugs]

It'll be fun to see if they will answer an anonymous email!

I've been virus attacked so many times I'm used to it.

System recovery is easy when you learn.

[Sir Big Jugs]

D'Ya guys ever think that Subsim.com Forums will get hacked?:o

[Hylander_1314]

It won't if there's a mine field to stop them along with anti virus nets, air patrols, coastal batteries, and a good blockade to stop them.

[STEED]

htt-----p://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ has been defaced.

I would discourage using any files you may get from that site for a while ;)

Thanks for the warning, this sort of thing really get's me angry :x these people are not clever they are scum.

[Rosencrantz]

Whatta... :nope:
Those guyes... I'm sure they don't have enough guts even to go for a drink in the bar. Just sitting on the screen... Jeez. I doubt if they have ever got la*d, BTW... :huh: :rotfl:


-RC-

[Subnuts]

No wonder the communists were so unpopular - HaXorED!!! :roll:

[VonHelsching]

I cannot understand why on earth *anyone* wants to hack a site that hosts mods for a game. It's beyond my grasp.

Cowards.

[Sulikate]

:nope: That's sad. I hope there is a way to get the site back.

[JSalinger]

They're not scum. They're Marxist Socialist bastards!

Let me at 'em! By the time I'm through with them, they'll be doing this: :help:

[HunterICX]

:hmm: If they ever try to hack Subsim....I Torp the Sh!t out of whole russia:smug:
I might need some help

[Reece]

Probably hacked by X1 Software!!:stare:

[dcb]

Probably hacked by X1 Software!!:stare:
That was my first thought as well. Maybe they want to cut gamers' access to free mods.
Reading the address posted there (sometyhing with Yilinda in it) I realised this is from Turkey. They could be Turks. The soviet symbol is just to deceive, I think. The yellow text is Turkish.

Anyway, there is this mirror:
http://mpgtext.net/u-boot/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/

[Kruger]

Maybe they hate us for being Doenitz's kaleuns.....:shifty:

[STEED]

Once these scum are caught hang them. :mad: :mad:

[shegeek72]

I think it's important to distinguish between malicious, or black or gray hat, hackers (also known as crackers) and the good guys: white hat hackers. It's slugs like those who cracked the website that give legit hackers a bad name. :nope:
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[Egan]

They're not scum. They're Marxist Socialist bastards!

They're not that either, they are dumb-assed llittle geeks who, quite aside from the fact were probably not even alive when the Communist government collapsed, probably don't even know how to spell Marxist-Socialist.

[U-Bones]

I think it's important to distinguish between malicious, or black or gray hat, hackers (also known as crackers) and the good guys: white hat hackers. It's slugs like those who cracked the website that give legit hackers a bad name. :nope:
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If you have the owners permission, you are not a hacker. If you don't have permission, you are no different than a thief. There is no such thing as a legit hacker, they exist only as a common oxymoron.

When I make sure my door is locked when I leave my house, I am securing my property, not using my leet white hat burglar skilz. When I test a weakness in a systems my company or employer owns, I am a security professional doing my job, not a hacker. Same with testing and reporting to the industry in general, with the goal of defending against these amd other attacks.

These jerks deserve no ambigious language to hide behind. They are destructive and subversive criminals. Trying to grey the lines between good and bad is the agenda of evil and deception. Truth is both binary and polarizing.

Not a personal attack - I am implying -only- that you are repeating a common mistake that removes clarity while claiming to clarify.

[Seminole]

I think it's important to distinguish between malicious, or black or gray hat, hackers (also known as crackers) and the good guys: white hat hackers. It's slugs like those who cracked the website that give legit hackers a bad name. :nope:
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If you have the owners permission, you are not a hacker. If you don't have permission, you are no different than a thief. There is no such thing as a legit hacker, they exist only as a common oxymoron.

When I make sure my door is locked when I leave my house, I am securing my property, not using my leet white hat burglar skilz. When I test a weakness in a systems my company or employer owns, I am a security professional doing my job, not a hacker. Same with testing and reporting to the industry in general, with the goal of defending against these amd other attacks.

These jerks deserve no ambigious language to hide behind. They are destructive and subversive criminals. Trying to grey the lines between good and bad is the agenda of evil and deception. Truth is both binary and polarizing.

Not a personal attack - I am implying -only- that you are repeating a common mistake that removes clarity while claiming to clarify.


Hear! Hear! :up:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Terrapin's site appears to be back to normal now.

[KptnLt Eric Karle]

Even after clearing out my cache I'm still getting those *******s index page:nope:

[U-Bones]

Even after clearing out my cache I'm still getting those *******s index page:nope:

Yes, looks like the restore included the same vunerability and they got right back in.

[RobertLee]

Yes they are Turkish

[shegeek72]

I understand your logic. However, there are legit hackers. The work "hacker" is reported to have originated from MIT when they acquired the first PDP-1. Students and faculty worked on developing new software tools, and some of them were writing the first video game, Spacewar.

http://www.mos.org/exhibits/ComputingRevolution/hacking/3c.html

A white-hat hacker would never try to break into your home, unless you asked them to (btw, I like the show "It Takes a Thief" - an example of legit hacking). When you test security systems for flaws you are hacking, whether you define yourself as such or not.

If anyone has doubts about this, check out the google group alt.hacker. When I first started reading the newsgroup I expected to find a bunch of pimply, teenagers showing off their cracking skills. Instead I found a great bunch of people, many who are, or were, system administrators who work in improving security and preventing break-ins. I've learned more about computer security from that group than anything else.

It's the media, and folk likes those who take-down websites, spread viruses, etc. who've given hackers a bad image. As an aside, I hope everyone here has anti-virus software, a firewall and doesn't use Outlook/OL Express or Internet Explorer - these programs are security risks (due to Microsoft's lackadasical concern about security) and just invite someone compromising your computer. Use Firefox web browser or Opera, and Thunderbird email client or Eudora.

[Jonte]

Thomsen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0761420/): Yeah, yeah. They keep together, balls in hand. And the belief in communism in their eyes.
Captain (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001638/): They will know in time.

;)

[Herazio]

Well they are Black-Hat totally.. I don't trust them at all just because of that line on the bottom something with communism and capitalism and stuff -_-. Oh well. They will learn in time. Still it's pathetic that you even bother trying to do something like that. I wonder what actually made them do that.. Anyone thinks there's an explanation ?

[Sir Big Jugs]

So, I got a reply from their email today.

GMail warned me with big red text that the email is propped with viruses of all kinds, and told me not to open it. So I deleted it.

I have a message to the hackers:


OMG!1111!!!!1UN00BS!!!1111LOLMAO

[Herazio]

So, I got a reply from their email today.

GMail warned me with big red text that the email is propped with viruses of all kinds, and told me not to open it. So I deleted it.

I have a message to the hackers:


OMG!1111!!!!1UN00BS!!!1111LOLMAO

I'm quite sure they'll understand that :P

[shegeek72]

I wonder what actually made them do that.. Anyone thinks there's an explanation ?

To understand this one needs to learn about the hacker / cracker community. In the beginning, most malicious hackers were just people (script kiddies) with the right skills (programming, code writing, etc.) attempting to break into, and compromise, a computer or network, either for fun or to access restricted data, introduce a Trojan, etc.

For example, what prompted me to find out about hacking happened when someone was accessing the auto-fill info in IE on my computer (through my firewall) and changing the information into funny names -- but he could've easily compromised my system. That began my foray into the interesting world of hacking.

Now-a-days, malicious hacking is more organized and actually profitable. The best way to avoid being compromised is having strong security / passwords and encryption. Oh, and I dumped Internet Explorer and switched to Firefox and have not had another intrusion. :cool:
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Now crackers

[Herazio]

I wonder what actually made them do that.. Anyone thinks there's an explanation ?

To understand this one needs to learn about the hacker / cracker community. In the beginning, most malicious hackers were just people (script kiddies) with the right skills (programming, code writing, etc.) attempting to break into, and compromise, a computer or network, either for fun or to access restricted data, introduce a Trojan, etc.

For example, what prompted me to find out about hacking happened when someone was accessing the auto-fill info in IE on my computer (through my firewall) and changing the information into funny names -- but he could've easily compromised my system. That began my foray into the interesting world of hacking.

Now-a-days, malicious hacking is more organized and actually profitable. The best way to avoid being compromised is having strong security / passwords and encryption. Oh, and I dumped Internet Explorer and switched to Firefox and have not had another intrusion. :cool:
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Now crackers

I thank you for this info ^-^. And indeed it's safer with Firefox around ;)

[U-Bones]

I wonder what actually made them do that.. Anyone thinks there's an explanation ?

To understand this one needs to learn about the hacker / cracker community. In the beginning, most malicious hackers were just people (script kiddies) with the right skills (programming, code writing, etc.) attempting to break into, and compromise, a computer or network, either for fun or to access restricted data, introduce a Trojan, etc.

For example, what prompted me to find out about hacking happened when someone was accessing the auto-fill info in IE on my computer (through my firewall) and changing the information into funny names -- but he could've easily compromised my system. That began my foray into the interesting world of hacking.

Now-a-days, malicious hacking is more organized and actually profitable. The best way to avoid being compromised is having strong security / passwords and encryption. Oh, and I dumped Internet Explorer and switched to Firefox and have not had another intrusion. :cool:
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Now crackers

You are still glamorizing them, and there is nothing new to figure out, they are exactly like other criminals. I know about them because my machines have been a daily target for the last 7 years at my place of employment. What you are saying is commonly held - but is in error because it fails to expose them for what they are: simple criminals.

I feel like I am repeating myself on this ?

I also use and recommend Firefox, but there have been numerous vunerabilities in it during the past few months, so don't be lulled by that either.

[Jager]

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?

[JohnnyBlaze]

I was wondering.. is it save to use the u-boot.realsimulation.com site? Or is it still under control of those bloody hackers? I'm asking this because the site now looks normal to me.

[P_Funk]

You guys are wondering why they targeted that particular site. To me an obvious explanation is the fact that they tout themselves as Socialists and put up a big Soviet Hammer and Sickle. Well last time I checked Communism (the Soviet brand) was polar opposite Fascism (ie. Hitler, the Third Reich, and of course its military assets like it's u-boats). These little pissants probably think they're taking a shot at some Fascist lovers who relive the time of Hitler through their sub-sims :rotfl:. I'm sure they aren't very sophisticated thinkers when it comes to ideology. And if they're targeting a free mod web site for a game that was also itself under the radar then I wonder how good they really could be. I mean shouldn't they instead be attacking the KKK forums or something? I mean if they are so ideologically driven as their banner would suggest.

All I know is that they give Socialism a bad name (as if Stalin hasn't already done enough).

[shegeek72]

You are still glamorizing them, and there is nothing new to figure out, they are exactly like other criminals. I know about them because my machines have been a daily target for the last 7 years at my place of employment. What you are saying is commonly held - but is in error because it fails to expose them for what they are: simple criminals.

I feel like I am repeating myself on this?

I also use and recommend Firefox, but there have been numerous vunerabilities in it during the past few months, so don't be lulled by that either.
I've said that white-hat hackers are the good guys, the ones who work towards stopping the criminal activity of crackers or black-hat hackers. Have you ever taken something apart, improved it in some way and reassembled it and it worked better? That's hacking - nothing glamorous there. Though malicious hackers will boast about their latest break-in or exploit.

The internet is designed without restrictions and there will always be bad people doing bad things and it's only going to get worse. It's a constant cat and mouse game. The problem is there are too many people who don't have AV and a firewall and don't regularly download the latest patches and security fixes, thereby leaving themselves open to allowing their puter to be used as a zombie computer to spread viruses, Trojans, etc. If everyone followed these simple steps viruses wouldn't propagate around millions of computers.

As Firefox increases in popularity, of course, there are going to be more attempts to poke holes in it. That's why Windoze, IE and OL/OL Express are constant targets. Both the Mac OS and Linux are more secure operating systems, though they are also getting attacked, but are inherently more secure operating systems. If you compare the vulerabilities of Firefox v. IE the latter will always have more because the way IE is built creates holes that allows ways of getting into your system.
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[shegeek72]

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?
By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/11815

[hardcampa]

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?
By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/11815
Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.
When someone hacks a computer in 99.999% of the cases they simply look for exploits, bad ASP or PHP code running on the web server for example, most often I would say the reason to why they succeeded is that the admin missed/didn't bother with a new patch for whatever is running on the server.
Any program that is running on a server must be kept track of and updated when there's an update.

99.9% of all web defaces etc are made by script kiddies. These guys don't know how to code or anything, they simply run bots and programs (that other have done) on computers that already been owned by some other script etc, the scripts then look for vulnerabilities at whatever sites they stumble upon. Once found they can install and deface a webpage with whatever info they want.

Admins really should follow lists like bugtraq etc to learn about new exploits, this is just common sense if you're a security aware admin.

A final note, these guys seldom, "target" a specific site. Their bot searching for vulnerabilities just happened to stumble upon a site that had a vulnerability.

[U-Bones]

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?
By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/11815
Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.
When someone hacks a computer in 99.999% of the cases they simply look for exploits, bad ASP or PHP code running on the web server for example, most often I would say the reason to why they succeeded is that the admin missed/didn't bother with a new patch for whatever is running on the server.
Any program that is running on a server must be kept track of and updated when there's an update.

99.9% of all web defaces etc are made by script kiddies. These guys don't know how to code or anything, they simply run bots and programs (that other have done) on computers that already been owned by some other script etc, the scripts then look for vulnerabilities at whatever sites they stumble upon. Once found they can install and deface a webpage with whatever info they want.

Admins really should follow lists like bugtraq etc to learn about new exploits, this is just common sense if you're a security aware admin.

A final note, these guys seldom, "target" a specific site. Their bot searching for vulnerabilities just happened to stumble upon a site that had a vulnerability.

Exactly.

One additional point. "...just happened to stumble upon a site" is perhaps downsizing what goes on. The bots actually harvest a large list of hosts with vunerabilities, which the kiddies can pick and choose from. Many (if not most) machines are insufficiently patched.

[NeonSamurai]

That job looked to me like the typical wanabe hacker kiddy exploit hack. The only reason why the site was targeted was simply because they found it had the exploit they were working with.

Usualy all the political crap is just a smoke screen, they usualy do it in a lame attempt to throw off the scent.

Typicaly these wanabes dont find their own exploits, they just use published ones they find on the net. Total amatures. Sending viruses back on an email just proves that.

[CWorth]

Looks like the site is back up on my end...hope he has closed off the vulnerabilities this time.

[kiwi_2005]

Script kiddies! :down:

[hardcampa]

Damn it, can't these people find something else to amuse them ? I'm curious, how does someone actually "Hack" a site ?
By getting the password to the ftp files, or finding a back door: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/11815
Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.
When someone hacks a computer in 99.999% of the cases they simply look for exploits, bad ASP or PHP code running on the web server for example, most often I would say the reason to why they succeeded is that the admin missed/didn't bother with a new patch for whatever is running on the server.
Any program that is running on a server must be kept track of and updated when there's an update.

99.9% of all web defaces etc are made by script kiddies. These guys don't know how to code or anything, they simply run bots and programs (that other have done) on computers that already been owned by some other script etc, the scripts then look for vulnerabilities at whatever sites they stumble upon. Once found they can install and deface a webpage with whatever info they want.

Admins really should follow lists like bugtraq etc to learn about new exploits, this is just common sense if you're a security aware admin.

A final note, these guys seldom, "target" a specific site. Their bot searching for vulnerabilities just happened to stumble upon a site that had a vulnerability.
Exactly.

One additional point. "...just happened to stumble upon a site" is perhaps downsizing what goes on. The bots actually harvest a large list of hosts with vunerabilities, which the kiddies can pick and choose from. Many (if not most) machines are insufficiently patched.
Yeah, I didn't want to get too technical. They scan a range of IP's to keep it short. =>

These guys should not be mistaken for coders like the cracker groups have (Reloaded, Deviance and such), those guys are real good coders. The web defacing mess, well those are just nobodys.

[shegeek72]

Lol that link was funny and completely pointless.
I know. Was waiting for someone to 'get it.' :lol:
The efforts to "cover your tracks" could have been done better. Its abit
transparent about deleting windows.
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[Shadow9216]

And then of course there's the good old "DOS" attacks...internet extortion- pay us a sum or we shut down your site. Many of those punks have a "corporate" logo to represent their little band of thieves. Good news is that they have to leave a trace in order to get paid- bad news is they usually exist outside of US jurisdiction. Still, international law enforcement cooperates fairly well these days in such cases.

[Sailor Steve]

Jager, your sig is still awfully large. You might want to read the forum rules and tone it down a bit.

[ming]

Some dl's still seem screwed up...hopefully it will all be back up soon:-? You guys still having problems? I just need to know because I have to know that my computer has not been infected :doh: .

[andy_311]

Some dl's still seem screwed up...hopefully it will all be back up soon:-? You guys still having problems? I just need to know because I have to know that my computer has not been infected :doh: .

same here tried to d/load the u-571 movie last night and that was tottally corrupt.