View Full Version : World Cup 2006 Final: Italy vs France
Onkel Neal
07-05-06, 05:02 PM
Congrats! We have any Frenchmen here? This should be a great game, post your thoughts and predictions here. :ping:
goldorak
07-05-06, 05:27 PM
France will win :rock: no hope for Italy.
Skybird
07-05-06, 05:30 PM
We all expected a more defensive Italy in the match against Germany - but all of a sudden they were far more aggressive and offensive then in the matches before. Judging by the early matches of Italy, i would have said the chances are for the French. With this "new" Italian team I say chances are totally open, 50:50, everything is possible. There will be an incredible ammount of experience on the field, especially for the French side. Both teams have extremly strong defensive setups, maybe the two strongest in the world currently. A lot will depend on how Zidane performs. If both teams' defense lines neutralize the opponent's offense, it could become a boring match, like France-Portugal. If the offenses proves to be stronger, then it will be an open exchange of strikes and attacks, with quick shifts from one goal zone to the other.
A player like Zidane deserves to be giftet the title for his farewell. My sympathies with both teams, nevertheless.
TteFAboB
07-09-06, 03:51 PM
It's finally over, gladly. It's way too cruel to finish a World Cup at the penalty kicks, hundreds must have just died of heart attack, and those who survived reached record levels of anxiety.
Well, no sleep tonight, this will be one of those nights where people find magic boxes with never-ending supplies of fireworks.
Thanks for the World Cup Germany. :up:
Skybird
07-09-06, 04:04 PM
Congrats for the Italian team, although after the second half the French would have deserved the winZidane: slap-slap-slap. Idiot. Must have been the most unique farewell of a football star I have ever heared of.
Skybird
07-09-06, 04:05 PM
It's all over. Thanks for having been our guests!http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/272/041452743384007ow.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
France :rotfl: :rotfl:
Italy :rock: :rock:
Blowballast
07-09-06, 04:19 PM
France played better for 75 min. but we made it!
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Zidane..this is an awful way to conclude a carrer.
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Congrats to Italy for becoming champions and to Germany for hosting so well.
France ? - disappointed now , but surely once the sting wears off by tomorrow they must feel the satisfaction at reaching the final against everyone's prediction :D
Zidane ? .... what can you say. It should have been a triumphant climax to an outstanding career. :-?
CAMPIONI DEL MONDO
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I did not see the incident, I heard some reference that Zidane got his nipple tweaked which resulted him doing the chest butt is that true?
goldorak
07-09-06, 05:18 PM
CAMPIONI DEL MONDO
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PER LA QUARTA VOLTA :rock::rock::rock::rock:
I wonder what it was that Zidane made so angry?
I wonder what it was that Zidane made so angry?
Then we are two, more?
Markus
Blowballast
07-09-06, 07:06 PM
I wonder what it was that Zidane made so angry?
Then we are two, more?
Markus
Me, but ive 2 more questions.
Where was Blatter during the celebration? The protocol had him to give the cup to Cannavaro.
Where was Zidane during the celebration? Why didnt he show up to get the medal?
grasovka
07-09-06, 07:16 PM
This is black sunday for world-football :yep:
Sulikate
07-09-06, 09:42 PM
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I'm with Italy because... My team sucked this time, and I don't like some french players... No greater reason.:arrgh!:
Sulikate
07-09-06, 09:44 PM
I wonder what it was that Zidane made so angry?
Then we are two, more?
Markus
Some minutes ago I saw a TV show about this: It said the italian player said some really bad stuff to Zidane...
goldorak
07-10-06, 12:15 AM
Some minutes ago I saw a TV show about this: It said the italian player said some really bad stuff to Zidane...
Unfortunately that doesn't excuse Zidane's action, even moreso when you're playing your last match and you still have 10 minutes to go where you could make the difference with Trezeguet.
Zidane getting the red card is what in my opinion got the French to loose the match even if they played far better than the Italian team.
Oh well ;), to win the world cup you also need a little bit of luck, and yesterday night the Italians got it.
Sea Demon
07-10-06, 12:25 AM
Congratulations, Italy. Great show.:up: :rock:
Skybird
07-10-06, 02:06 AM
Discipline even when being targetted by tough words must be demanded from a pro who earny more money per match than really working people earn in half a year. collecting reds or yellows for starting to react such thiungs in words or deeds is unexcusable. That's as if a navy officer fires a missiles by frustration over that his wife has left him. Unacceptable.
It's not the first time that Zidane showed such behavior. His career marks several such incidents.
Some minutes ago I saw a TV show about this: It said the italian player said some really bad stuff to Zidane...
Unfortunately that doesn't excuse Zidane's action, even moreso when you're playing your last match and you still have 10 minutes to go where you could make the difference with Trezeguet.
Zidane getting the red card is what in my opinion got the French to loose the match even if they played far better than the Italian team.
Oh well ;), to win the world cup you also need a little bit of luck, and yesterday night the Italians got it.
Yes, the referee should have give a second penalty and yellow card (Florent Malouda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florent_Malouda) versus Marco Materazzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Materazzi)) :hmm:
Yes, the referee should have give a second penalty and yellow card (Florent Malouda versus Marco Materazzi)
Yes... sure... considering that the first penalty was inexistent it sort of balances out ;)
According to a swedish newspapper. Materazzi should have said "you're a terrorist" to zidane. the same papper also quoted french press, here Materazzi should have talked dirty about his mom.
A newspaper from Brazil said that he had called Zidane's sister a whore
Zidane is from northen africa and is a moslem.
Markus
Congratulations, team Italy.
As it turned out, it seems that the match-fixing scandal at home did not distract the players, of which some of them do not know about the future of their clubs, but gave them an extra-motivation to play for the honour of the Italian football. That is at least my impression. When I placed my money bet on the world cup outcome, I had that "feeling" that this would probably make the Italians even more dangerous in terms of going for the cup. IT was the best answer the players could give anyway. They are not to blame for the scandal but nonetheless are hit by it.
So, I tip my hat and say: " Forza Italia".
My favourite Italian player is Gattuso who had said that in case he would "score a goal in the final, then there will never again be snow in Germany".:)
Also, congrats, Lippi, job well done. As a club coach, he lost the Champions League final 3 times. So yesterday, it was his triumphant day finally. Now, IL Maestro can go fishing with his buddies.
As for the rest of us,
see you again when it is time to find out the Euro Champion 2008 in Austria/Switzerland resp. the Champion of the World 2010 in South-Africa.
Meat grinder:ping:
the Zidane headbutt game:
http://tonaz.altervista.org/zidane.html
:rotfl: :rotfl: Love it
Isn't there one for the Rooney nut crusher ?
If the following is correct, then I don’t blame zidane for his actions against Materazzi.
Materazzi said “You’re a son of a terrorist whore”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=395046&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5
If the following is correct, then I don’t blame zidane for his actions against Materazzi.
Materazzi said “You’re a son of a terrorist whore”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=395046&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5
I have two question
1 What kind of penalty will Matarazzi get?
2 Did the italian coach give the order to Materazzi?
markus
No excuse for what Zidane did, but Matarazzi should definately get sanctioned, especailly if the allegations are true and considering FIFA's anti-racism stand.
Ah well, congrats to Italy, solid defence and it has been a long time. :up:
1 What kind of penalty will Matarazzi get?
Unless there is a proof that he verbally assaulted Zizou, none.
2 Did the italian coach give the order to Materazzi?
of course, what kind of question do you ask? Don't you know that Lippi (the italian coach) smokes cigars so he can make smoke signs to his players??? :lol: :lol:
I've heard many stories concerning what Materazzi said to Zidane:
a) "Nice shirt. Why don't you come to play for Inter?"
b) "You are a terrorist"
c) "Your sister is a whore"
d) "Son of a terrorist whore"
But in the end, who physically assaulted who?
And he even got the golden football for best player of the WC...so much for the fair play policy of FIFA...
Some minutes ago I saw a TV show about this: It said the italian player said some really bad stuff to Zidane...
Unfortunately that doesn't excuse Zidane's action, even moreso when you're playing your last match and you still have 10 minutes to go where you could make the difference with Trezeguet.
Zidane getting the red card is what in my opinion got the French to loose the match even if they played far better than the Italian team.
Oh well ;), to win the world cup you also need a little bit of luck, and yesterday night the Italians got it.
It wouldn't have made a difference... Trezeguet would just have been bumped to 3rd in the lineup. Poor Trezeguet... he gets all the blame. France should have just stepped it up after Italy scored instead of resting on their laurels from that first goal.
Skybird
07-11-06, 05:18 PM
There are so many versions now what was said and what not... We don'T know how the match would have been different without that red card. Zidane leaving had it's influence for sure. It would not have been the same situation during the shootout: different thoughts on everybody's mind.
The whole finale had not much of a taste. the match was not really big fun to watch. The crown was decided by a shootout. The audience asks itself: why then 4 weeks of tournament - just to decide it by throwing a coing then? It is not satisfying to see it ending in the way it did. Zidane loosing control, after having been provoced by an Italian. While it was also Italy that helped to get a German player banned before, under circumstances for which FIFA president meanwhile has apologized, and leaving out the fact that that player also has been provoced before. All this may be coincidental, or not. But there were finals and winners in the past that you remember. This one has not one of these, however. The only thing that will be remembered is the Zidane-issue, and the four weeks before.
It was a nice and beautiful party over here. It should have deserved a better final, many people think over here. and we do not mean by that that Germany necessarily should have been in the finals. Just a better match.
Concerning Zidane, as a trainer and pro i would almost kill him. I would demand more dicipline under all circumstances. Loosujng control because of words is not acceptable. On the othe rhand I have seen a fiolm about his biography, and the hard times he faced, too. As a human, I still respect him, and spit at the someone who thinks it was a good idea to bring a good perfomrer down by playin dirty tricks on him. That Zidane lost control is as unacceptable to me as is the provocation that took place before, no matter what it was.
Zidane loosing control, after having been provoced by an Italian. While it was also Italy that helped to get a German player banned before, under circumstances for which FIFA president meanwhile has apologized, and leaving out the fact that that player also has been provoced before. All this may be coincidental, or not.
Oh yes, I was waiting just for this, the usual anti-italian rant by the usual sore loosers who, for reasons unknown, think they only can play soccer.
Just to refresh your memory:
during the past Euro soccer tournament in 2004, when the italian player F. Totti spit on the danish player C. Paulsen during the match Denmark-Italy, Totti, correctly was expelled and sanctioned. Totti reacted to what he thought to be an offense by the danish player. Nobody excused him. And rightfully so. Whatever a player may have said, it doesn't excuse such behavior. Paulsen was never sanctioned for what he may o may not have said to Totti.
As for that Frings of yours, the italian football federation did not pass to FIFA the video sequence showing the punch. It was Italian Sky TV. So please spare me the conspiracy theories.
You guys are unbelievable...France scored the only goal of the match on an inexistent penalty (the guy threw himself on the ground), the second goal of Italy has been annulled for offside of a player who did not participate in the action, we got one post plus another couple of dangerous actions while France had a grand total of 2, maybe even 3 (sic!), shots on goal...and here instead:
All this may be coincidental, or not.
As for that S.O.aB. of the FIFA president who so promptly apologized for the Fings accident, he was supposed to give the World Cup to the winning team. Instead he was probably counseling the poor Zidane, or Platini, or somebody of the like.
If you can't stand the pain of defeat, don't play.
Kurushio
07-16-06, 12:31 PM
Some of you must've just started watching football. :roll:
Tell me a thrilling final...go on...when was the last one? 2002? A dominant Brazilian side...hardly a "classic"...more a forgone conclusion. 1998? When the Brazilians strangely played "under par"? Depressed Ronaldo...remember? 1994? Brazil beating Italy in penalties? 1990? Germany winning with 1 penatly against Argentina...very thrilling. :roll:
Finals are traditionally not good...oh and...what about when France kicked out Italy in the semi-final on penalties in 1998, then went on to win the cup. Did they deserve it...considering they only beat Italy on penalties...or how about Brazil in 1994, did they deserve it...they won the final on penalties against Italy...
Italy deserve it. They only took 2 goals...one an own goal and one a penalty...that must be some sort of record. They'll go down as the best defence of any team throughout history. Buffon is the best goalkeeper...proabably ever...certainly the most expensive (60 million Euro..just the transfer see...without his wages).
Throughout history teams with very good goalkeepers win tournaments. Brazil with Tafarrel, Italy Zoff and Buffon, France had Barthez who at the time was winning with Manchester United (not the jaded and finished Barthez of today)....
Italy deserved it...if Brazil have made an art form of attack, then Italy have made an art form of defence. They are both equally part of the game.
FORZA ITALIA!
EDIT: Oh and, we handed the German's arse on a plate before the World Cup in Florence 4-1 and in Germany it should've been 4-0 (with a post and a bar plus the two goals.) So I think the score gainst Germany was correct. Zidane...LOL....being provoked like a small child. What an imbecile. Glad it happened. LOL
Onkel Neal
07-18-06, 06:45 AM
There are so many versions now what was said and what not... We don'T know how the match would have been different without that red card. Zidane leaving had it's influence for sure. It would not have been the same situation during the shootout: different thoughts on everybody's mind.
The whole finale had not much of a taste. the match was not really big fun to watch. The crown was decided by a shootout. The audience asks itself: why then 4 weeks of tournament - just to decide it by throwing a coing then? It is not satisfying to see it ending in the way it did. Zidane loosing control, after having been provoced by an Italian. While it was also Italy that helped to get a German player banned before, under circumstances for which FIFA president meanwhile has apologized, and leaving out the fact that that player also has been provoced before. All this may be coincidental, or not. But there were finals and winners in the past that you remember. This one has not one of these, however. The only thing that will be remembered is the Zidane-issue, and the four weeks before.
It was a nice and beautiful party over here. It should have deserved a better final, many people think over here. and we do not mean by that that Germany necessarily should have been in the finals. Just a better match.
Agreed.
Kurushio
07-19-06, 09:52 AM
Agreed by someone who doesn't watch football. :hmm:
Agreed?
:roll:
[quote] ..France scored the only goal of the match on an inexistent penalty (the guy threw himself on the ground),
Like the italian who hooked his leg behind the laying Aussie? :)
Oh and you forget the second penalty not seen by the referee ( Materazzi vs Malouda ).
the second goal of Italy has been annulled for offside of a player who did not participate in the action,
The shooter was in ofside position too!
The shooter was in ofside position too!
That's debatable
The shooter was in ofside position too!
That's debatable
No, it isn't! :nope:
Kurushio
07-19-06, 04:09 PM
Fish...I don't think Toni was offside either...look at it properly...I think it was Perotta if I'm not mistaken...in a passive offside. 99 out of 100 they'd have allowed the goal. The first penalty definitely wasn't a penalty for France, Materazzi retracts his leg so he was clearly not at fault for the collision...the second probably was a penalty....so it evens out.
The Australian guy throws himself on the floor, if you go to ground like he does, and you don't leave any space for the person to jump you without him touching you, that at the least is obstruction, because you're taking away space for his trailing leg...so it would be a penalty either way. Otherwise everyone would just throw themselves on the ground in front of an attacking player in the penalty area... :up:
Fish...I don't think Toni was offside either...look at it properly...I think it was Perotta if I'm not mistaken...in a passive offside. 99 out of 100 they'd have allowed the goal. The first penalty definitely wasn't a penalty for France, Materazzi retracts his leg so he was clearly not at fault for the collision...the second probably was a penalty....so it evens out.
The Australian guy throws himself on the floor, if you go to ground like he does, and you don't leave any space for the person to jump you without him touching you, that at the least is obstruction, because you're taking away space for his trailing leg...so it would be a penalty either way. Otherwise everyone would just throw themselves on the ground in front of an attacking player in the penalty area... :up:
I think it's one of the things what made football as it is, the discusions afterwards.
With a drink at hand of course. :up:
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